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ABC Australia
All kinds of music and all kinds of musicians in conversation with Andrew Ford.
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Dec 20, 2025 • 54min
Genre-benders: Abel Selaocoe and Bush Gothic
Almost every description of South African singer, cellist and composer Abel Selaocoe starts with a phrase like “genre-defying”, but Abel refers to himself as genre defining. Wherever he tours, he brings with him a lifetime of musical influences ranging from his childhood in Sebokeng, a township outside Johannesburg, to adolescence at Soweto’s African Cultural Organisation of South Africa, to study at the Royal Northern College of Music in Manchester. His classical cello chops, his Xhosa throat singing, his improvisational spirit and his storytelling combine in an open, blossoming sound on his latest album Hymns of Bantu.Bush Gothic are “unafraid of Australian songs”. From colonial-era folk songs to the Divinyls, their latest album What Pop People Folk This Popular is a showcase of what the band does best: dreamy, detailed, genre-bending music in conversation with Australian musical history. Jenny M Thomas and Dan Witton join Andrew Ford.

Dec 19, 2025 • 54min
Ellen Stekert on a full life in folk music
Ellen Stekert has spent a lifetime in folk music. She got her first guitar at 13 (to assist with her rehab after contracting polio) and soon after high school she became enmeshed in the Greenwich Village folk scene, crossing paths with the likes of Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie. Ellen released four albums of traditional songs in the 1950s and then focused her career on academia, teaching English, American and folklore studies.There’s been a resurgence of interest in Ellen’s life and music, thanks in large part to singer songwriter Ross Wylde. Ross has been helping Ellen to remaster her old recordings, leading to her first release in over 60 years: Go Around Songs Vol. 1. Both musicians are guests on The Music Show to talk about their deep love of folk music, their intergenerational friendship and how a Bob Dylan photograph for sale on eBay first brought them together.Check out Ellen Stekert's website for photos, music and archive, and Ross Wylde's music is available on Bandcamp.This program originally aired in May 2025.

Dec 13, 2025 • 55min
The "doofy folk" of Brisbane band Amaidí; and Luciano Berio at 100 with his student Kim Williams
Brisbane trad band Amaidí say they perform "doofy folk stuff": accordion, guitar, banjo and fiddle augmented by stomp box and electronics. Amaidí means nonsense in Gaelic but it's more than just silly stuff, with their new album Beyond Cape Capricorn reflecting the broad and often dark influences of Scottish and Irish music in the Australian folk tradition. That being said, there's plenty to dance to, as you'll hear when they join Andy to play some tunes live in the studio. Well before he was Chair of the ABC, Kim Williams was a composition student of Italian arch-modernist Luciano Berio, whose centenary we celebrate in 2025. Kim joins Andy to demonstrate his encyclopedic knowledge of Berio's music, to recall his personal relationship with the composer, and to review the olive oil of Berio's hometown.

Dec 12, 2025 • 55min
Messiah
What do an actress mired in scandal, a grieving political dissident, a previously enslaved African celebrity, and a court composer have in common? They’re all integral to the story of Messiah becoming a cornerstone of the musical repertoire. Heard now more often at Christmas, it was premiered at Easter in 1742 after three rapid weeks of writing by Handel, and it suggests, as author Charles King says, the staggering possibility that things might turn out all right. Charles joins Andy to reveal the characters in his book Every Valley, which in the American edition comes with the pleasing subtitle The Desperate Lives and Troubled Times That Made Handel’s Messiah.

Dec 6, 2025 • 55min
From Mixtapes to MTV: The Music of the 1980s with Tony Wellington
Tony Wellington, an author and music writer focused on popular music history, dives into the enchanting chaos of 1980s music. He explores the impact of MTV on the British Invasion and unpacks Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' as a game changer for music videos. Wellington discusses Madonna's rise through provocative imagery and traces the roots of house music and rap's entrance onto mainstream platforms. From charity rock anthems to protest music reflecting Cold War fears, he captures the decade's musical contradictions brilliantly.

Dec 5, 2025 • 55min
JJJJJerome Ellis on the musicality of stuttering, and a masterclass in the chromatic harmonica
JJJJJerome Ellis styles their name with five Js because it’s the word they stutter on the most. The artist, writer, composer and multi-instrumentalist has released a new album Vesper Sparrow which layers spoken word, vocals, saxophone, hammered dulcimer, organ, electronics and more. JJJJJerome speaks to Andrew Ford about the musical opportunities that speech disfluency provides, and what we can learn from the spaces and clearings between words.And we get a chromatic harmonica masterclass from musician and composer Ariel Bart, who blends European jazz traditions with Middle Eastern music. She’s about to begin her debut Australian tour, teaming up with a local cellist and pianist.

Nov 29, 2025 • 0sec
Reed and Oak: DOBBY & Cate Kennedy
Reed and Oak - composed and performed by DOBBY, words by Cate Kennedy.One of two winning poems from our Middle of the Air competition, run in collaboration with Red Room Poetry.

Nov 29, 2025 • 0sec
The Arbour: Leah Senior & Giles Watson
The Arbour - composed and performed by Leah Senior, words by Giles Watson.One of two winning poems from our Middle of the Air competition, run in collaboration with Red Room Poetry.

Nov 29, 2025 • 55min
Poetry becomes song: Middle of the Air winning songs revealed with DOBBY and Leah Senior
In August, ABC Radio National and Red Room Poetry put out the call for Australian poets to submit new poems to be set to music by two great local musicians, DOBBY and Leah Senior. Now, to mark the end of AusMusic Month, the two winning poems, and the songs that they have become, are premiered on The Music Show. Andy talks to DOBBY, Leah, and the two winning poets Cate Kennedy and Giles Watson, as well as David Stavanger and Nicole Smede of Red Room Poetry to celebrate the alchemy of song: how music and words combine to affect each other's meaning and make something completely new.Plus, to mark Jane Austen's 250th anniversary, a dive into Austen's relationship with music, with academic Gillian Dooley. And we remember Guy Ghouse (1969-2025), the Western Australian musician who, with his collaborator and wife Gina Williams, brought Noongar language music and opera to the fore.

Nov 28, 2025 • 55min
Leo Sayer is still dancing, and art and song in Warlpiri women's ceremony
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners are advised that this program contains the voices of people who have died. As a post-war kid, Leo Sayer first heard rock & roll on Radio Luxembourg on a radio late at night. His career has taken some major swerves: he was an illustrator, a graphic designer (he worked on album covers for Bob Marley), then a blues harmonica player. Most famously though, he's a singer, songwriter, and showman. He sits down with Andrew Ford after a big run of shows to talk about performing at the age of 77, his enduring love of poetry, and how he's found new audiences through remixes and collaborations with up-and-comers.Yawulyu: Art and Song in Warlpiri Women’s Ceremony is a new book that examines the dances, songs and body designs of the Warlpiri community in the early 1980s in Willowra, Northern Territory. Andrew speaks to three of the book's co-authors, Helen Napurrurla Morton (a Warlpiri teacher and translator), Megan Morais (an ethnochoreologist and teacher), and Professor Myfany Turpin (musicologist and linguist), about the role of music in women's ceremonies, and how documenting it is helping to pass it along.


