

Rev-n-u Unplugged
James Hounslow from Indigo GTM
🎙️ Rev-n-u Unplugged — Where SaaS revenue leaders tell it like it is. Join James Hounslow, a seasoned recruiter in the revenue leadership space, as they sit down with Chief Revenue Officers, VPs of Sales, and Private Equity Operating Partners to have real, unfiltered conversations about the business of driving growth in SaaS. Each episode, the guest brings the topic, from communication to the board strategies and recruiting to value creation, winning new logos, cutting tech spend, and everything in between. No fluff. No scripts. Just the raw insights, lessons, and stories behind how top operators build and sustain revenue engines that perform. If you’re a sales leader, investor, or anyone obsessed with the craft of revenue, this is your backstage pass to the strategies and mindsets shaping today’s SaaS landscape. Tune in. Get real. Grow revenue. Unplugged.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Feb 17, 2026 • 57min
The Science of Scaling -Mark Roberge
The conversation delves into the impact of revenue growth obsession, the importance of customer value creation, and the role of churn in businesses. It also explores the alignment of sales compensation with customer retention, the significance of accountability in sales, and the need for a strong explanation behind sales compensation. Additionally, the conversation highlights the critical nature of product market fit in the early stages of a business. The conversation delves into the misconceptions surrounding product-market fit and the influence of VCs on growth strategy. It also explores the challenges of aggressive growth strategies, the stress associated with them, and the importance of balancing growth and sustainability. Additionally, it covers the significance of sales leadership and coaching, the hiring process for scaling success, and the leading indicator of retention as a metric. Finally, it discusses the potential impact of the framework on startup success.TakeawaysRevenue growth obsessionImportance of customer value creationThe impact of churn on businessesAligning sales compensation with customer retentionThe role of accountability in salesThe need for a strong explanation behind sales compensationThe significance of product market fit Product Market Fit MisconceptionsThe Role of VCs in Growth StrategyChapters00:00 Mitigating Cultural Issues and Accountabilities36:12 VC Influence on Growth Strategy41:28 Challenges of Aggressive Growth Strategies49:35 Balancing Growth and Sustainability57:09 Hiring for Scaling Success

Feb 10, 2026 • 29sec
Going From Startup to Scale Up - Listen, Learn, Observe
Going From Startup to Scale Up - Listen, Learn, Observe

Feb 10, 2026 • 51min
Stop Obsessing About the Fruit: Why the Best CROs Focus on the Root
The conversation with Andrew Barker, CRO at ClearBank, covers his sales journey, challenges in scaling a business, and the modern B2B revenue engine. Andrew shares insights on implementing sales methodology, avoiding over-engineering, and the importance of understanding data without a rev ops presence. He also discusses the challenges of avoiding custom builds in scale-ups and the integration of marketing, channel, sales, and client success under one integrated function. The conversation covers the importance of early customer engagement and value provision, the role of the CRO in managing the revenue engine, the integration of AI into business processes, stakeholder management and expectations, team dynamics and scaling, and the role of RevOps in scaling a business.TakeawaysSales LeadershipScaling a Business Early engagement and value provision are crucial in modern B2B sales.RevOps plays a critical role in enforcing infrastructure, systems, processes, and technology.AI should be integrated into business processes and problems, with a focus on targeted solutions.Talent management, energy management, and mindset matter significantly in sales organizations.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Value of Revenue Unplugged05:05 Building a Revenue Engine11:30 Understanding Data Without Rev Ops18:05 Getting Buy-In for Sales Methodology27:00 Modern B2B Revenue Engine32:51 The Role of the CRO and Revenue Engine43:00 Stakeholder Management and Expectations51:43 RevOps and its Role in Scaling

Feb 3, 2026 • 19sec
Team Will Never Out Perform It's Culture
Team Will Never Out Perform It's Culture

Feb 3, 2026 • 50min
Most Revenue Problems Aren't Sales Problems – They're Orchestration Problems
The conversation covers three primary themes: Evolution of the Revenue Leader, Winning the Talent War, and Building Cultures that Multiply Revenue. Each theme is explored in depth, highlighting the changing role of revenue leaders, the importance of winning the talent war, and the impact of culture on revenue multiplication. The conversation covers the importance of setting clear expectations for candidates, the varying interview processes based on the role, the significance of peer-level interviews, the need for transparency in the interview process, the lack of investment in interview training, the impact of culture on revenue, and the role of accountability in leadership.TakeawaysRevenue leaders have evolved from focusing solely on sales to orchestrating the entire revenue ecosystem.Winning the talent war requires a focus on employee engagement from the very first interview.Culture plays a critical role in multiplying revenue and requires the involvement of all functional leaders.The role of the CRO has expanded to include influence across functions and a deep understanding of data and messaging. Clear expectations are crucial for candidatesInterview processes should be tailored to the roleTransparency in the interview process is valued by candidatesInvestment in interview training is lackingCulture has a significant impact on revenueAccountability is essential in leadership

Feb 1, 2026 • 35sec
To Win Focus on Defferent & Not Just Better
Different not Better

Jan 27, 2026 • 41min
Cut Your Sales Stages in Half: The SPICED Methodology That Drives Best-in-Class Win Rates
The conversation delves into the importance of positioning and messaging in sales, the impact of selling the problem vs. selling the product, the role of ICP in sales strategy, the significance of sales enablement and technology, and the analysis of sales strategy and its impact. The conversation delves into the critical importance of execution in sales methodology, the implementation and impact of the SPICED sales methodology, the process of choosing the right sales methodology for a business, the role and impact of sales enablement in business growth, and the significance of leveraging data and consultative approaches in sales leadership.TakeawaysSelling the problem vs. selling the productImportance of positioning and messaging in salesThe impact of ICP (Ideal Customer Profile) on sales strategy Execution is keySales enablement is about consistent execution and repeatabilityChapters00:00 Positioning and Messaging in Sales05:34 ICP and Sales Strategy12:05 Sales Enablement and Technology20:55 The Importance of Execution in Sales Methodology30:08 The Role and Impact of Sales Enablement in Business Growth36:08 Leveraging Data and Consultative Approaches in Sales Leadership

Jan 20, 2026 • 34sec
Winning Culture
Winning Culture

Jan 20, 2026 • 59min
Skills Can Be Taught, Qualities Cannot: Joe Marcin on Negotiating, Culture & Selecting A-Players
In this conversation, Joe Marcin discusses the critical aspects of negotiation, building a winning culture, and selecting top talent in sales. He emphasizes that negotiation begins from the first interaction with a customer and highlights the importance of establishing a give-get framework. Joe also shares insights on creating a culture of accountability and mutual success within sales teams. Furthermore, he outlines the key traits to look for when selecting winners in sales, including curiosity, creativity, and grit. The discussion also touches on the significance of structured onboarding processes and competency frameworks to ensure sales reps are set up for success.

Jan 13, 2026 • 59sec
Unblocking Issue My Team Has.
Unblocking Issue My Team Has


