

World of Wisdom
World of Wisdom
A curiosity driven podcast about wisdom, learning and the personal and systemic implications of the transition we are in. Hosted by Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne. For extended shownotes visit: https://worldofwisdom.substack.com/
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Jan 19, 2023 • 1h 9min
164. Leif Edvinsson: Intellectual, spiritual and intangible forms of capital. Forward looking accounting, longitutde and navigation.
Leif Edvinsson is a Swedish organizational theorist, Professor at the University of Lund in Sweden and consultant, known for his work on intangible forms of capital, specifically intellectual capital and knowledge management. This conversation with Leif is a trip into a different way of engaging with the world. Leif says early on in the podcast that he learned to think at Berkley, CA and that the invitation was often to turn everything upside down. That's what we are doing here. We enter the usually dull world of accounting and intangible assets and start looking at how we can use the practice not for controlling and taking stock but rather for quantifying potential. It is truly mindboggling when you let some of these concepts sink in.
We speak of spiritual capital, intellectual capital, alternative cost, potential, future forecasting, experimentation, living labs, entrepreneurship as creation in the spaces, why piles of shit was a good measure of future wealth on the farm and what happens when you realise that the main value of the tree is in the roots not in the parts you see. This conversation is truly exciting. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul.

Jan 13, 2023 • 1h 17min
163. Joel Tickner - Chemicals, chemicals legislation and what you can do with regards to them?
Joel Tickner is a professor Umass Lowell and founder of the Green Chemistry and Commerce Council (GC3). This conversation revolve around Chemicals in the products we use in our everyday life. Why chemicals are so ever present? To what extent and how should we worry about them and what can we do as consumers to take care? We speak about why chemicals-free is probably not a possible vision. What the difference is between synthetic and natural and what it means with regards to safety. We speak about risk and hazard, ways to think about chemicals and much more. This is a really hands on, useful conversation for those worried or curious about chemistry in our world today and why they are in our world in the first place as well as how we need to change our practices to get to something that looks like sustainable or green chemistry. Host: Amit Paul

Jan 5, 2023 • 1h 1min
162. Pella Thiel - On why Ecocide legislation has such deep implications for the shift we are in the middle of.
Pella Thiel (LinkedIn, webpage) is the institutional activist and farmer that is focused on getting ecocide legislation into the ICC at the Hague. Support their work at Stop Ecocide. We talked about ecocide law and why it is potentially so elegant and powerful. We also talked about what direction ecocide law points us in with regards to our state as a human species or as a part of the whole earth's ecosystem. We spoke about the importance of loving what is already here and the power of the institutions and the system that we have built that we now need to transform. We spoke about the value that we can find in relationships and what happens when we dare to localise our value - shifting our gravity of value closer, to biking distance even. This is such a hands on, humane and warm conversation that I'd recommend anyone to listen to it regardless of if you need a pick me up or if you are a budding activist and need a different way of changing the system than chaining yourself to a tree. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul

Dec 29, 2022 • 1h 14min
161. Maria 'Decida' Wahlberg. What pop culture can teach us about subculture, culture, coming home and creation
Maria 'Decida' Wahlberg is the co-founder of Transponder where she works with transformation of culture in companies and society at large. She is a creative, dancer and choreographer turned systems thinker. To find out more about her check out her webpage. In this conversation we look at what it is to come home, what pop music has to teach us about culture change and transformation. What it means to be deracinated and put into a different culture, what it means to find a new home in a subculture, what movement and constellations has to teach us about complexity and much more. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul.

Dec 22, 2022 • 1h 17min
160. Daniel Christian Wahl - Regenerative design, the water cycle, science as intersubjective consensus, salutogenic and ecozoic principles of reorganising our society
Daniel Christian Wahl is one of the motors and originators of the regenerative design trend that is really picking up speed now. We speak about a number of topics like: of coming home, what regenerative actually is, what would be a better topic than carbon dioxide to work on (water cycle). why it is important to leave the antroposcene behind as it might further be deepening our pathology of separation. How it is that we can integrate indigenous perspectives and world views in a more constructive way? Why our current state of technology development is also just kids stuff and not necessarily the pinnacle of what homo sapiens have achieved. This conversation is a peek into the world of the regenerative with one of it's wisdom keepers. It is a diverse, grounded and truly human. To find out more about Daniel Christian Wahl visit his webpage, his medium or his youtube channel. Host Amit Paul

Dec 15, 2022 • 1h 10min
159. Alexander Whitley - Choreography, the language of dancing, healing through dance and dealing with high levels of uncertainty
Alexander Whitley is a British renowned choreographer trained in classical ballet that has formed his own company and is working and exploring the topics of our current moment, consciousness and our interaction with technology. We speak of the potential for us to process complexity through other languages than the spoke word. What happens, what shifts and what becomes possible through the implicit? That which contains lots of room for interpretation? We also speak of what is the nature of the relationship of art and what does it mean to have to fund art (to make contributions visit the company's webpage) as well as new formats for dance and art (check that out on the website too). Wonderfully rich and deep conversation in words but addressing something else altogether with an invitation to look at dance through the lens of a dancer. Enjoy. Host Amit Paul

Dec 8, 2022 • 1h 9min
158. Joshua Haynes - Money, Power and new ways of funding in a transforming society
Joshua Haynes (twitter) a nurture capitalist (not venture capitalist) and director of the investment fund Masawa where they have reimagined capital and investing, building an ecosystem and looking out for people that build ventures to address our mental health challenges. This was an exciting conversation and some of the questions that Joshua poses like: power for what and what does an ideal system look like when belonging is universal? We also speak of the world of aid as part of Joshuas background in SIDA and USAID. Why his current ventures might have some traces of inspiration from the micro finance industry. And we speak on the topic of whether money has a soul? Wonderful wide ranging conversation. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul

Dec 1, 2022 • 1h 7min
157. Marco Valente - Epistemic humility, loops of learning, theories of change, navigating complexity, risk, wicked problems and evidence based decision making
Marco Valente, a sustainability practitioner and facilitator, delves into the complexities of evidence-based decision-making. He discusses epistemic humility and how our perspectives shape our understanding of the world. Marco explores wicked problems and the importance of reflective decision-making in navigating uncertainty. He touches on the replication crisis, urging skepticism without disbelief in science. Through engaging metaphors, he highlights the difference between kind and wicked learning environments, emphasizing the vital role of reliable feedback and collaboration in addressing complex challenges.

Nov 24, 2022 • 1h 12min
156. Maria Selting: 5 mental shifts to thrive in the future of work
Maria Selting from the Unbox your world podcast came on. She is a futurist and a technologist having spent time in a couple of hyper growth start-ups. She is now a speaker and podcaster focusing on what's next in the world. Discussing her article titled 5 mental shifts to thrive in the future of work. This is a fun exploration around the times we are standing in and a meeting of paradigms. The conversation cover the 5 shifts and it was a privilege to weed out and untangle similarities and differences in our way of thinking. The 5 points are useful as a backbone to structure one's capacity building regarding the times that we are in. Here is the deeper explanation of the concept of anti-fragility that Maria points to in the conversation. If you want to book Maria as a speaker. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul

Nov 17, 2022 • 1h 7min
155. Ria Baeck: Collective presencing, knots, flow, life, when individuals get stuck, when groups get stuck and why attention really matters.
Psychologist Ria Baeck, known for her work in untying knots that hinder people's potential, explores the concept of collective presencing and its implications for transformative work. The conversation delves into the power of silence and stillness in communication, identifying and resolving knots in relationships, and the transformative power of taking action from a place other than fear. It also emphasizes the importance of individuals taking initiative in self-organizing networks.


