

The Psychedelic Podcast
Third Wave
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
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Feb 22, 2023 • 1h 12min
Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz - Exploring Silence & Psychedelics: Finding Signal Through the Noise
Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz join Paul F. Austin to discuss their new book, GOLDEN, and the scientific, mystical, and psychedelic nature of silence. Justin and Leigh recently released GOLDEN: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise. Published by HarperCollins in the US and Penguin in the UK, it is appearing in 14 languages globally. Together, Leigh and Justin founded Astrea Strategies, a consultancy that bridges deep visioning with impactful communications and action. Find GOLDEN on Amazon, HarperCollins, or anywhere books are sold. Listen to the Audio Book narrated by Prentice Onayemi. Highlights: How Justin and Leigh's paths crossed. Defining silence and noise. How silence promotes flow states, creative problem solving, and self-transcendent experiences. Silence and psychedelics. The sacredness of shared silence. The neurobiological effects of silence and noise. Balancing science and mysticism to inform a new paradigm. Cultivating introspection for wiser and more effective leadership. Episode links: Justin & Leigh's website Justin & Leigh's book, Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise Episode 140: Adam Gazzaley, M.D., Ph.D. Third Wave's Coaching Certification Program These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links. This episode is brought to you by Magi Ancestral Supplements! Among Magi's beta-Carboline nootropics is my personal favorite minidose, Stard Deep Meditation Aid which has been shown by brain scans to help you achieve a deeper state of meditation. Right now Magi Ancestral Supplements is offering 10% off for listeners of the Third Wave Podcast with coupon code paul10. Visit ancestralmagi.com to learn more about Stard and their other cognitive-enhancing nootropics. And by Apollo Neuro, the first scientifically validated wearable that actively improves your body's resilience to stress. Apollo was developed by a friend of Third Wave, Dr. David Rabin M.D Ph.D., a neuroscientist and board-certified psychiatrist who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for nearly 15 years. Third Wave listeners get 15% off—just use this link. And by Third Wave's Mushroom Grow Kit. Get the tools you need to grow mushrooms along with an in-depth guide to finding spores.

Feb 13, 2023 • 1h 3min
Remi Drozd, D.O. - The Journey to Conscious Health: Getting the Most Out of Ketamine Therapy
Dr. Remi Drozd and Paul F. Austin dive deep into ketamine therapy: telemedicine vs. in-person, the skill of surrender, and willing participation. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Dr. Remi Drozd, D.O. is the founder and executive director of Lucid Therapeutics. He is a board-certified emergency medicine physician with 15 years of experience and a fellowship in wilderness medicine. Remi became dissatisfied with western medicine, realizing that many elements of primary health, particularly mental health, were being mismanaged in the existing system. In 2020, he learned about the healing potential of psilocybin during a workshop led by the Johns Hopkins scientist Bill Richards, and ultimately decided to dedicate his professional efforts to a different way of practicing medicine. He has completed training for Ketamine Therapy at the Psychedelic Coalition for Health and the MDMA Therapy Training Program through the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). At Lucid Therapeutics (formerly Santa Barbara Ketamine Therapy), Remi provides a high-touch, holistic approach to ketamine-assisted therapy. He and his team of integration coaches, specifically trained in non-ordinary consciousness, help shepherd clients through their tremendous psychedelic experiences. Outside of the office, Remi enjoys kitesurfing in the waves, cycling the Santa Barbara hills, and being with his family. Highlights: How early psychedelic experiences gave Remi the calling to shift from his career as an ER doctor to other forms of healing. A deeper look at ketamine and its history of use from anesthetic to a treatment for depression and suicidality. How the hands-on approach at Remi's clinic differentiates itself from that at an infusion center. The importance of coaching alongside psychedelic experiences. Comparing potential outcomes of telemedicine to the "thick-wall container" of the in-person clinic experience. Why the "skill of surrender" is so important—and so difficult. Balancing the capacity to let go with the commitment to living consciously engaged in the world. Insights from Remi's psychedelic training journey. The demographics that visit Remi's clinic, and how individuals are screened. The need for willing participation when it comes to transformation. Episode Links: Lucid Therapeutics Dr. Drozd's presentation, "Ketamine 101" Paul F. Austin's Mindbloom Experience Episode 152: Lauren Taus: Pain Opens Pleasure: Psychedelic Healing, Therapy, and Somatic Practices Episode 128: Jeffrey Becker: The Science of Ketamine: What's Really Going on in Your Brain? Episode 173: Rick Doblin, Ph.D.: Healing the Heart of Humanity: Legalizing Psychedelic Medicine Third Wave's Coaching Certification Program California senator Scott Weiner's introduction of legislation to decriminalize certain psychedelics Remi's clinic featured in the Santa Barbara Independent Dr. Drozd on YouTube Dr. Drozd on LinkedIn Lucid Therapeutics on Instagram Lucid Therapeutics on Facebook Lucid Therapeutics on Medium.com These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links. This episode is brought to you by Apollo Neuro, the first scientifically validated wearable that actively improves your body's resilience to stress. Apollo was developed by a friend of Third Wave, Dr. David Rabin M.D Ph.D., a neuroscientist and board-certified psychiatrist who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for nearly 15 years. Third Wave listeners get 15% off—just use this link.

Feb 6, 2023 • 1h 8min
John Wood - Unleash the Beast: The Role of Somatics in Psychedelic Experience
John Wood, founder of Rageheart, joins Paul F. Austin to explore the nature of somatic release in psychedelic experiences. John Wood is the founder of Rageheart, an edgy, new online school that teaches people how to navigate and integrate their psychedelic journeys without traditional tools like meditation, breathwork, or $49 Moleskin journals. Wood started the company when he noticed how many people struggled with psychedelics. Whether it was staying calm during the experience or integrating lessons afterwards, Wood wanted to give people better tools because, in his opinion, the classic tools everyone recommends are disappointing at best and downright dangerous at worst. Wood is an entrepreneur and long-term traveler, having lived, worked, and traveled through 20+ countries over the last 10 years. He's currently based in the mountains of Peru, where he rides his motorbike, trains Jiu Jitsu, and eats way too many people-shaped rainbow donuts at his local café. Highlights: John's motorcycling and "hikeadelic" adventures while living in Thailand. Early explorations of psychedelics, breathwork, and somatics. John's experiences with manipulative psychedelic guides. John's life-learned lessons on listening to gut feelings and making space for healthy aggression. How John came to synthesize psychedelics with somatics. How John sees the role of somatic release in plant-medicine experiences. How to use somatic tools, like those taught at Rageheart, and integrate them into everyday life. Episode Links: Rage Heart John's article on his harmful experience with psychedelic practitioners Book, A Little Book on the Human Shadow by Robert Bly Book, Waking the Tiger by Peter Levine These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links. This episode is brought to you by Magi Ancestral Supplements! Among Magi's beta-Carboline nootropics is my personal favorite minidose, Stard Deep Meditation Aid which has been shown by brain scans to help you achieve a deeper state of meditation. Right now Magi Ancestral Supplements is offering 10% off for listeners of the Third Wave Podcast with coupon code PAUL10. Visit ancestralmagi.com to learn more about Stard and their other cognitive-enhancing nootropics. This episode is brought to you by Apollo Neuro, the first scientifically validated wearable that actively improves your body's resilience to stress. Apollo was developed by a friend of Third Wave, Dr. David Rabin M.D Ph.D., a neuroscientist and board-certified psychiatrist who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for nearly 15 years. Third Wave listeners get 15% off—just use this link.

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Jan 30, 2023 • 59min
Jose Muñoz Aycart - Empower the Healer Within: Rethinking At-Home Psychedelic Therapy
Jose Muñoz Aycart, Co-founder of Wondermed, discusses revolutionizing mental health through at-home ketamine treatments. Highlights include Wondermed's goal of empowering the healer, Jose's psychedelic experiences, and plans to support the psychedelic community as legalization progresses.

Jan 25, 2023 • 48min
Panel Discussion - The Case for Microdosing: Why Legalization Matters
Paul F. Austin hosts a panel discussion on advocacy for legalizing microdosing, and why it matters in the psychedelic movement. This episode is a re-broadcast from the Into The Multiverse Podcast and was recorded in July 2022 in Los Angeles, CA, at the launch party of the Microdosing Collective, a non-profit dedicated to advancing and protecting the right to microdose. In a special panel discussion hosted by Paul F. Austin, four passionate leaders in the world of psychedelics discuss topics such as the history of microdosing, sacred rituals, the legal landscape, and how to safely advocate for microdosing. This discussion is a rebroadcast and was originally released on the Into The Multiverse Podcast About the panelists: Alli Schaper Alli Schaper is an entrepreneur, community builder, speaker, mental-wellness advocate, and enthusiast for mushrooms and other psychedelic medicines. She is currently the CEO & Co-Founder of Into The Multiverse, an education-first ecosystem for all things fungi, whose mission is to rebrand functional mushrooms and encourage collaboration in the psychedelics industry. Her team has created the world's first functional mushroom marketplace, The Multiverse, and SuperMush, their in-house consumer lifestyle brand. Her passion for bringing microdosing psychedelics to the mainstream wellness conversation led her to collaboratively launch The Microdosing Collective. She is also the host of Into The Multiverse Podcast. Instagram: @allischaper Marie Mbouni, M.D. Born in Cameroon, Africa, Marie Mbouni, M.D. felt a calling toward healing and was initiated into iboga at the age of 14. Ultimately she would go on to pursue her education in Canada and the United States, following the Western medical route as an anesthesiologist. After years in this profession, Marie realized it did not fully align with her vision of healing and embraced a new career as a shaman, energy healer, and mentor. Marie has studied and cared for the body for over 20 years. Opening herself to the power of the mind, the beauty of intuition, and the all-encompassing power of love changed her, she stepped into her destiny as a healer and embraced her potential beyond the confines of the mainstream. Instagram: @mariembounimd Joshua Kappel Joshua Kappel is a founding partner of Vicente Sederberg with a practice devoted to helping entrepreneurs and like-minded professionals build human-centric and regenerative companies in the cannabis and psychedelic communities. Joshua also has a passion for helping advocates draft legislation and build sustainable legal vehicles that will influence these emerging industries going forward. Recently, Mr. Kappel was a co-author and chair of the campaign committee for Colorado's Proposition 122, which was the first successful state ballot measure to create access to natural psychedelic healing through both a state-regulated and a decentralized community-healing model. Joshua also helped draft Denver's psilocybin decriminalization initiative and has assisted in drafting cannabis and psychedelic measures across the country for over 12 years. Paul F. Austin (Host) Paul F. Austin is a 21st-century pioneer of the responsible use of psychedelics for healing, leadership, and personal transformation. He has been featured in Rolling Stone, the New York Times, and WebMD for his work amplifying awareness around the benefits of microdosing psychedelics. Paul is the author of the book Mastering Microdosing: How to Use Sub-Perceptual Psychedelics to Heal Trauma, Improve Performance, and Transform Your Life and the founder of two companies in the emerging psychedelic space, Third Wave and Synthesis. Instagram: @paulaustin3w Highlights: Why microdosing advocacy matters. A brief history of microdosing and its potential role in mainstream acceptance of psychedelics. Panelists share their "why" in promoting responsible psychedelic use in mainstream society. On sacred reciprocity and microdosing with plant medicines. The current legal landscape of microdosing and the work ahead towards legalization. Harnessing neuroplasticity for wellness and optimization. Drawing on lessons from cannabis when it comes to microdosing psychedelics. How to share support for microdosing without putting yourself at risk. Defining microdosing. Episode Links: Microdosing Collective Website Book, The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide by James Fadiman Book, Drug Use for Grown-Ups by Dr. Carl L. Hart These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links. This episode is brought to you by Third Wave's Coaching Certification Program. This is an opportunity for coaches with existing practices to be a part of a movement that will change lives. This episode is brought to you by Apollo Neuro, the first scientifically validated wearable that actively improves your body's resilience to stress. Apollo was developed by a friend of Third Wave, Dr. David Rabin M.D Ph.D., a neuroscientist and board-certified psychiatrist who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for nearly 15 years. Third Wave listeners get 15% off—just use this link.

Jan 16, 2023 • 1h 15min
BJ Miller, M.D. - Psychedelics & Palliative Care: Finding Fulfillment in Life & Death
Paul F. Austin is joined by BJ Miller, M.D., co-founder of Mettle Health, for a discussion on psychedelics and living and dying well. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. BJ Miller, M.D. is an established thought leader in the area of serious illness, end-of-life issues, and dying. He has been a physician for 19 years and has counseled over 1,000 patients and family members. This vast experience has led him to understand what people really need when dealing with difficult health situations. BJ has given over 100 talks, both nationally and internationally, on the themes of serious illness and dying, He has given over 100 media interviews, including podcasts, radio, and print. His TED Talk, What Really Matters at the End of Life has been viewed over 11 million times. He is co-author of the book, A Beginner's Guide to the End: Practical Advice for Living Life and Facing Death, published in 2019. Highlights: Powerful insights and perspectives from BJ's work in palliative and end-of-life care. From taboo to opportunity: examining attitudes towards death across cultures and history. How BJ became involved in the intersection of psychedelics and end-of-life. Looking at the data on psychedelic therapy for patients with end-of-life anxiety. "Anesthetics vs. Aesthetics": BJ's insights into a helpful set and setting for dying well. Embracing regret and fear at the end of life. The power of love—during life and at the time of death. Mettle Health, BJ's service for patients and caregivers. Episode Links: Mettle Health Zen Hospice Project BJ Miller's TED Talk, "What really matters at the end of life" Ep. 136 - Jeremy Narby, Ph.D.: "More Than Molecules": Plants as Living Teachers Presentation by Dr. BJ Miller & Dr. Justin Burke: "Exploring the Aesthetic Dimension of End-of-Life Care" Mettle Health on Youtube Mettle Health on Instagram Mettle Health on Twitter BJ Miller on Twitter This podcast is brought to you by Third Wave's Mushroom Grow Kit. Get the tools you need to grow mushrooms along with an in-depth guide to finding spores. This episode is brought to you by Apollo Neuro, the first scientifically validated wearable that actively improves your body's resilience to stress. Apollo was developed by a friend of Third Wave, Dr. David Rabin M.D Ph.D., a neuroscientist and board-certified psychiatrist who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for nearly 15 years. Third Wave listeners get 15% off—just use this link.

Jan 9, 2023 • 1h 2min
James Ravenhall - Dose of Inspiration: Psychedelics Meet Design Thinking
James Ravenhall of NewTerritory joins Paul F. Austin to discuss how design thinking can be used to bring innovation to psychedelics & vice versa. James Ravenhall is Creative Director of NewTerritory design studios. He talks about the studio's visionary microdosing platform concept, "Human Nature," and how products like it might shift cultural perceptions of psychedelics. Paul and James envision new approaches to psychedelic experiences through the lens of design thinking. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here. Originally a trained chef, James spent a number of years working in kitchens in London and Paris before earning his Bachelor's degree in Industrial Product Design. Now, he has over thirteen years' experience leading engagements in brand strategy, product, spatial, service, and digital for some of the world's most impactful brands across the automotive, aviation, and space travel industries. James has an innate passion to work alongside people who see design not just as a tool, but as a platform to make a positive impact and effect real change for people, planet. and profit. Instagram - @newterritorydesign Website - www.newterritory.io Highlights: James shares about his human-centered approach to design and how psychedelics are influencing his work. The triple bottom line, "People-Planet-Profit," and the guiding principles of James's work. James unpacks his creative process and what inspires new projects in his studio. "Human Nature" — a tailored microdosing platform concept that aims to shift public perception and influence legislation. Using design thinking to envision how microdosing can be integrated into daily life. Applying James's approach to rethinking high-dose psychedelic experiences and ways to personalize experiences. Gourmet dining in space and other projects James is working on. Episode Links: NewTerritory "Human Nature" — James's microdosing product concept Transcendental Meditation THE WELL New York Article, "Could Psychedelics Help To Heal The Crisis of Disconnection?" by Sam Gandy, Rosalind Watts and Alex Evans Synthesis Institute Wavepaths These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links. This episode is brought to you by Third Wave's Coaching Certification Program. This is an opportunity for coaches with existing practices to be a part of a movement that will change lives. This episode is brought to you by Apollo Neuro, the first scientifically validated wearable that actively improves your body's resilience to stress. Apollo was developed by a friend of Third Wave, Dr. David Rabin M.D Ph.D., a neuroscientist and board-certified psychiatrist who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for nearly 15 years. Third Wave listeners get 15% off—just use this link.

Jan 4, 2023 • 1h 7min
Ryan Sprague - The Power of Cannabis: Intentional Uses for Healing, Personal Growth & Optimization
Ryan Sprague, founder of Highly Optimized, shares insights on cultivating a positive relationship with cannabis. He discusses using cannabis to manage anxiety and the profound impact it had during his father's final days, shaping his mission to empower others. The conversation highlights the importance of intentional cannabis use for healing and personal growth, as well as the art of blending strains for better experiences. Sprague also explores unconventional consumption methods and their potential benefits, emphasizing education and mindfulness in cannabis practices.

Dec 26, 2022 • 50min
Suresh Muthukumaraswamy, Ph.D. - Rethinking Research: Novel Approaches to Studying LSD Microdosing
Dr. Suresh Muthukumaraswamy, lead researcher in the world's first LSD microdosing clinical trial, discusses the unique design of his experiment, challenges faced, and potential benefits. They explore therapy in psychedelic assisted psychotherapy, regulatory considerations, and the relationship between the Maori and plant medicines in New Zealand.

Dec 18, 2022 • 41min
Matthew W. Johnson, Ph.D. - Psilocybin for Smoking Cessation: A New Era of Psychedelic Research
Matthew W. Johnson, Ph.D., a world-renowned researcher in psychedelics, discusses his studies on psilocybin for smoking cessation and cancer distress treatment. He shares the initial findings of psilocybin vs. nicotine patch as smoking cessation treatments. The podcast also highlights the significance of funding therapeutic studies and the transformative power of psychedelic medicine in personal growth and evolution. The role of researchers and advisors in the psychedelic ecosystem, the concept of perennial philosophy, and the importance of finding qualified providers and integration in psychedelic research are also explored.


