

PocketGamer.biz Podcast
PGbiz Podcast
Welcome to your regular glimpse into the business of mobile games. Featuring interviews with games industry experts! Your hosts are the insiders at PocketGamer.biz, the top B2B site for the mobile games industry. It covers the people, technology and deals that drive this multi-billion dollar sector. In our ongoing podcast, youโll hear the editorial team and their guests dive into the topics and themes at the forefront of the industry. Youโll get unique insight and exclusive Q and As, taking you behind the scenes on the international mobile games scene.
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Jan 7, 2025 โข 36min
Mobile Gamers Have More Choice Than EverโHereโs How to Keep Them Loyal, Playing, and Paying
Mobile gamers are drowning in choices, but theyโll still spendโif your ad monetization strategy speaks to their player type and why they downloaded your game in the first place. But itโs not enough to satisfy players; studios ring in the revenues when they combine services and a sense of urgency.
This is where Mistplayโs latest Mobile Gaming Growth Report equips game devs and ad mon teams with a roadmap to profitable growth in 2025. Kyle West, Sr. Director of Marketing at Mistplay, joins hosts Brian Baglow and Peggy Anne Salz to unpack findings and show how developers can sharpen their marketing, maximise monetisation, and level up loyalty programs by crafting experiences according to player personas and gameplay preferences.
Heโs joined by Oxana Fomina, well-known ad mon authority and Founder of Gradient Universe, a game analytics consulting firm. She delves into her latest client successes to reveal standout strategies studios of any size can use to turn players into payers.
Listen in to Part 1 of a special two-part series where we dig into how studios can sync UA with LiveOps for better results, take small but effective steps to scale web shops, and use FOMO as motivation while still adding value to limited-time events.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
04:24 - The Mistplay Mobile Gaming Growth Report
07:23 - Brand as a part of UA
10:17 - Utilizing first-party data effectively
12:05 - Aligning UA and LiveOps
15:00 - Actions for small studios
17:50 - Effective monetisation strategies
21:37 - Why web shops?
24:34 - Balance urgency with value
26:53 - Quantity vs Quality
28:57 - Advice for starting studios
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** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป X - https://x.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Dec 17, 2024 โข 33min
7 Habits of Incredibly Effective Gaming Jedis: Special Edition
In 2024, our hosts Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow interviewed 45 experts across the gaming industry, from straightforward studio heads and energised executives to data-driven developers and monetisation mavens. In this special edition episode, Peggy and Brian look back on the Top 7 shows of this year, recapping the pure-gold lessons and learnings from the marketers you enjoyed hearing from the most in 2024.
As this is the yearโs final show, all of us at Steel Media and the Pocketgamer.biz Podcast want to wish you a happy holiday season and a joyful new year. Thanks for listening, and weโll see you in January for the first episode of 2025!
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
04:35 - #7 The Innogames team
07:46 - #6 Akin Babaygit, Tripledot Studios
10:46 - #5 Patrick McSteen, Logan Square Consulting
15:02 - #4 Ryan Filsinger, Iron Fox Games
18:43 - #3 Maria Sayans, ustwo games
22:00 - #2 Teis Anker Mikkelsen, Multiscription
26:02 - #1 Daniel Tchernahovsky, AppLovin
30:41 - Year #2 of the Pocketgamer.biz Podcast
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** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป X - https://x.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Dec 16, 2024 โข 49min
Week in Mobile Games E40 - Games industry trends 2024 review
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple, deputy editor Paige Cook and news editor Aaron Astle discuss the big games industry trends of the year for 2024.
In this festive episode, we look at AI, regulation, layoffs, the state of games media, HTML5, the year's top games and much more!
** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
๐๐ป The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Awards 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/pocket-gamer-awards-2024-winners-revealed/
๐๐ป Nominations open for the first Top 50 UK Game Makers 2025 - https://forms.gle/UNfa7YtrVzKkmbtS9

Dec 9, 2024 โข 54min
Week in Mobile Games E39 - Mobile's hot new releases and the loot box investigation unpacked
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple, deputy editor Paige Cook and news editor Aaron Astle discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode we discuss mobile's hottest new releases, including Infinity Nikki, delve into the BBC's loot box investigation, and debate Ubisoft's obsession with launching Rainbow Six on mobile.
** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
๐๐ป The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/๐๐ป Everything is a games platform - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/everything-is-a-games-platform/
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Awards 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/pocket-gamer-awards-2024-winners-revealed/
๐๐ป Are the UK's top grossing mobile games really breaking loot box rules? - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/are-the-uks-top-grossing-mobile-games-really-breaking-loot-box-rules/
๐๐ปPokรฉmon TCG Pocket matches 91% of Pokรฉmon Goโs launch month revenue through the power of playground rumours - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/pokmon-tcg-pocket-matches-91-of-pokmon-gos-launch-revenue-through-the-power-of-playground-rumours/
๐๐ป Rainbow Six Mobile returns with Season Ice Storm ending a near eight-month hiatus - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/rainbow-six-mobile-returns-with-season-ice-storm-ending-a-near-eight-month-hiatus/
๐๐ป Nominations open for the first Top 30 UK Game Makers 2025 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/nominations-open-for-first-top-30-uk-game-makers-2025/

Dec 4, 2024 โข 49min
Investor Trends Set to Dominate Gaming M&A in 2025 ft. Drake Starโs Michael Metzger
What made gaming acquisitions attractive in 2024, and what do investors have on their wishlist for 2025? Michael Metzger, Managing Partner at global tech investment bank Drake Star, takes the mic in this episode of the Pocketgamer.biz Podcast to shine a light on the new era of M&A and share advice with studios shaping their growth strategies for the upcoming year. Alongside our host, Peggy Anne Salz, and special co-host Craig Chapple, Michael reveals insights from Drake Star's Global Gaming Report Q3 2024, explaining why 2024 saw a surge in M&A activityโwith a 70% year-over-year increase in gaming salesโand how factors like private equity interest, strategic acquisitions, and profitability-focused deals are shaking up the industry status quo. Tune in to determine what's driving the shift, what it means for developers, and why diversification into non-gaming sectors should be on your growth radar for 2025.
Drake Starโs Global Gaming Report Q3 2024 - https://www.drakestar.com/news/global-gaming-report-q3-2024
Michael Metzger - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelmmetzger/
Drake Star - https://www.drakestar.com/
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:41 - Getting to close
05:42 - Length of acquisition
08:56 - What's driving gaming M&A?
13:00 - Is it sustainable?
17:11 - What are acquiers looking for?
19:49 - Rollups in 2025
23:37 - The financing climate
30:15 - Bullish on blockchain
33:43 - Diversification
35:44 - Investments in 2025
42:09 - Advice for studios
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** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป X - https://x.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Nov 30, 2024 โข 44min
Week in Mobile Games E38 - Xbox and Adjust mishandle their PR and Supercell's culture revolution
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple and news editor Aaron Astle discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode we delve into the PR mishandling of Xbox's mobile marketplace plans and the Adjust layoffs.
Elsewhere we discuss Supercell CEO Ilkka Paananen's insights into the structural and cultural changes at the Clash of Clans developer and how the top grossing charts are evolving.
** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
๐๐ป The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/๐๐ป Everything is a games platform - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/everything-is-a-games-platform/
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Awards 2024 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-pocket-gamer-awards-2024-tickets-1042651016257
๐๐ป Microsoft delays Xbox Android store after US court temporarily pauses Google Play remedies - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/microsoft-delays-xbox-android-store-after-us-court-delays-google-play-remedies/
๐๐ปAdjust names new CEO amid layoffs - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/adjust-names-new-ceo-amid-layoffs/
๐๐ป Supercell CEO Ilkka Paananen: โI was actually quite worried about the company" - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/supercells-ilkka-paananen-i-was-actually-quite-worried-about-the-company/
๐๐ป Full Slush 2024 transcript: Supercell CEO Ilkka Paananen on the Clash of Clans developer's evolving culture - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/full-slush-2024-transcript-supercell-ceo-ilkka-paananen-on-the-clash-of-clans-developers-evolving-culture/
๐๐ป Royal Kingdom is here - Are new hits reshaping the top grossing mobile games charts? - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/royal-kingdom-is-here-are-new-hits-reshaping-the-top-grossing-mobile-games-charts/
๐๐ป"Unconventional characters" and "respect for creative freedom" drive Reverse: 1999โs $100m success - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/unconventional-characters-and-respect-for-creative-freedom-drive-reverse-1999s-100m-success/

Nov 26, 2024 โข 53min
Sticky, Loveable, and Loyal: How Developers Create Winning Games with Psychological Segmentation
Accurate segmentation makes the difference between a good game and a great one, but with the declining availability of third-party data, developers face mounting challenges in finding strategies that drive installs and reduce churn. The opportunity? Psychological segmentation, which taps into player motivations and traits rather than relying on surface-level demographics or behaviors.
This week, Joe Schaeppi, CEO and Co-Founder of Solsten, joins our hosts Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow to reveal how this approach gives developers a winning edge. From understanding the "why" behind player behavior to uncovering untapped personas and creating experiences that truly resonate, Joe breaks down how psychology-driven segmentation empowers developers to connect with players on a deeper level.
The result? Games that are not only sticky but also lovable and loyalty-worthy. Tune in to learn about the science of resonance, why it beats relevance, and how to design games that foster enduring player relationships and scalable success.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:45 - Risk & fun
04:30 - What kind of player are you?
07:39 - Resonance vs relevance
11:46 - How to use resonance to stand out
19:24 - Solsten is an insurance policy
25:34 - How does Solsten work?
32:37 - It starts during development
36:30 - Values show up during play
40:01 - Integrating brands
46:33 - If 50% of VCs like your idea
50:16 - Favourite games Q&A
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** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป X - https://x.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Nov 26, 2024 โข 1h 2min
Week in Mobile Games E37 - Pokรฉmon Trading Card Game Pocket's blockbuster launch and Royal Kingdom hype
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple, deputy editor Paige Cook and News Editor Aaron Astle discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode we discuss the success of Pokรฉmon Trading Card Game Pocket, Dream Games' big Royal Kingdom launch, and ask: are developers burned out on mobile?
** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
๐๐ป The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/๐๐ป Everything is a games platform - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/everything-is-a-games-platform/
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Awards 2024 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-pocket-gamer-awards-2024-tickets-1042651016257

Nov 19, 2024 โข 39min
The 84% Problem: What Bad Ads Are Costing Game Publishers
84% of players uninstall games due to disruptive or poorly placed ads, proving that bad ads don't just hurt a game's reputation but its bottom line, too. Our hosts, Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow, dive into AppHarbr's recent report, โPlayer Sentiments On In-Game Adsโ โ a one-of-a-kind survey of over 600 players โ before Peggy hits the floor at Gamesforum London to ask games professionals how they combat problematic creatives. Ad monetisation and growth experts from Kwalee, Product Madness, Moloco, GameBiz Consulting and Playtika share the steps to taking back control of your game's ad quality and where they see the most growth for games in 2025.
Boลพo Jankoviฤ - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bozoj/
John Wright - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnwright1987/
Bruno Balistrieri - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruno-balistrieri-5b10a8194/
Piyush Mishra - https://www.linkedin.com/in/piyush-mishra-4333a340/
Or Zilberman - https://www.linkedin.com/in/or-zilberman-469834131/
Michael Fortune - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mifortune/
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
01:35 - AppHarbr Survey
03:41 - Relevance, timing, and quality
07:09 - Boลพo Jankoviฤ - GameBiz Consulting
13:57 - John Wright - Kwalee
22:19 - Bruno Balistrieri - Kwalee
24:56 - Piyush Mishra - Product Madness
31:38 - Or Zilberman - Playtika
34:38 - Michael Fortune - Moloco
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** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป X - https://x.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Nov 18, 2024 โข 1h 8min
Week in Mobile Games E36 - Games industry M&A hits overdrive with Plarium and Easybrain deals
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple, deputy editor Paige Cook and News Editor Aaron Astle discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode we discuss Miniclip's $1.2 billion acquisition of Easybrain, MTG's big deal for Plarium and ask why is Microsoft talking about mobile acquisitions?
** Let's Connect **
๐๐ป Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
๐๐ป LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
๐๐ป Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
๐๐ป Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
๐๐ป Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
๐๐ปPocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
๐๐ป The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/๐๐ป Everything is a games platform - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/everything-is-a-games-platform/


