

The Counsel
CAFE
Join Elie Honig as he unpacks the complex legal issues shaping our country. A former prosecutor and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, CNN senior legal analyst, and author, Honig brings sharp insight and clear perspective to the intersections of law, politics, and current events. New episodes every Friday. From CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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May 12, 2021 • 13min
Hatchet Job
Elie Honig breaks down the latest development in the long saga of Bill Barr: a federal judge reprimanding the former attorney general for misleading Congress about whether Donald Trump should have been charged with obstructing the Russia investigation. Join Elie every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday on Third Degree for a discussion of the urgent legal news making the headlines.Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: https://cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/hatchet-job/Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Sam Ozer-Staton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 10, 2021 • 15min
Chauvin Charged (Again)
Elie Honig breaks down the federal grand jury indictment of Derek Chauvin and the three other ex-Minneapolis police officers in connection with the killing of George Floyd. Join Elie every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday on Third Degree for a discussion of the urgent legal news making the headlines.Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: https://cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/chauvin-charged-again/Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Sam Ozer-Staton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 7, 2021 • 28min
"The Shadow Docket"
Elie Honig is joined by Harvard Law School student Eli Nachmany. The pair discuss the likelihood of Supreme Court expansion, the Court’s “shadow docket,” and the (increasingly political) process for selecting Supreme Court justices. Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of the urgent legal news making the headlines. Third Degree takes on a bit of a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students, exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: https://cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/the-shadow-docket/Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Sam Ozer-Staton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 5, 2021 • 13min
The Court-Packing Debate
Elie Honig discusses the ascendant conservative majority on the Supreme Court, the Biden administration’s commission to explore court expansion, and possible reforms to the federal judiciary. Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of urgent legal news making the headlines. Third Degree takes on a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider.Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree. Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: https://cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/the-court-packing-debate/Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Sam Ozer-Staton, Jake Kaplan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 3, 2021 • 13min
The Rudy Raid
Elie Honig discusses the FBI’s raid of Rudy Guiliani’s home and office, and the likelihood that the Southern District of New York will bring charges against Guiliani, who made his name as the leader of that office in the 1980s.Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of urgent legal news making the headlines. Third Degree takes on a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider.Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree. Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: https://cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/the-rudy-raid/Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai, Sam Ozer-Staton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 30, 2021 • 7min
Third Degree Sample: Policing & Systemic Change
In this sample from Third Degree, Alabama Law student Kyra Perkins discusses her reaction to the guilty verdict in the Chauvin case, and the effectiveness of federal pattern or practice investigations into city police departments.Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of the urgent legal news making the headlines. Third Degree takes on a bit of a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students, exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider. Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree. Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 28, 2021 • 13min
Prosecuting the Insurrection
In this episode of Third Degree, Elie Honig calls on DOJ leadership to aggressively pursue charges against the individuals who inspired and carried out the January 6th Capitol insurrection. He also breaks down the partisan political battle blocking the formation of a congressional commission to investigate the insurrection.
Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of urgent legal news making the headlines.
Third Degree takes on a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider.
Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree.Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/
Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: https://cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/prosecuting-the-insurrection/
Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai.
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Apr 26, 2021 • 11min
Unfinished Business For DOJ
In this episode of Third Degree, Elie Honig discusses new developments in the investigation into Russia’s influence in the 2016 election, and why Merrick Garland can still pursue justice for the crimes committed.
Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of urgent legal news making the headlines.
Third Degree takes on a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider.
Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree.Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/
Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/unfinished-business-for-doj/
Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 23, 2021 • 7min
Third Degree Sample: After the Chauvin Verdict
Elie Honig and NYU Law student Safeena Mecklai discusses her live reaction to the Chauvin verdict, and its greater implications for policing in America.
Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of the urgent legal news making the headlines.
Third Degree takes on a bit of a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students, exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider.
Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree.Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/
Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 21, 2021 • 12min
The Chauvin Verdict
In this episode of Third Degree, Elie Honig addresses the significance of the guilty verdict in the murder trial of Derek Chauvin.
Join Elie every Monday and Wednesday on Third Degree for a discussion of urgent legal news making the headlines.
Third Degree takes on a different flavor on Fridays, when Elie speaks with a rotating slate of America’s most impressive law school students exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Become a member at half the annual price with special code DEGREE at cafe.com/insider.
Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree.Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/
Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/the-chauvin-verdict/
Third Degree is brought to you by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


