

HTML All The Things - Web Development, AI, and Developer Careers
Matt Lawrence and Mike Karan
HTML All The Things is a podcast for developers navigating the modern web industry.
Hosted by web development agency owners Matt Lawrence and Mike Karan, the show explores web development, AI-driven industry shifts, and the realities of building a sustainable career in tech.
Matt and Mike discuss foundational technologies like HTML, CSS, and JavaScript along with modern tools and frameworks such as Svelte, Vue, WordPress, React, and Tailwind. But beyond the code, the show also dives into freelancing, running a web agency, dealing with clients, and how developers can stay competitive as the industry evolves.
If you're a developer who wants to sharpen your technical skills, understand where the industry is heading, and build long-term leverage in your career or business, this podcast is for you.
Hosted by web development agency owners Matt Lawrence and Mike Karan, the show explores web development, AI-driven industry shifts, and the realities of building a sustainable career in tech.
Matt and Mike discuss foundational technologies like HTML, CSS, and JavaScript along with modern tools and frameworks such as Svelte, Vue, WordPress, React, and Tailwind. But beyond the code, the show also dives into freelancing, running a web agency, dealing with clients, and how developers can stay competitive as the industry evolves.
If you're a developer who wants to sharpen your technical skills, understand where the industry is heading, and build long-term leverage in your career or business, this podcast is for you.
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Nov 22, 2025 • 25min
Web News: Gemini Got an Upgrade (Gemini 3.0)
Google's Gemini 3.0 rollout is here, and it's causing quite a stir! Upgrades tackle past weaknesses while boosting day-to-day developer workflows. The hosts share personal stories about Gemini's previous shortcomings and reveal performance leaps through benchmarking. Discussions cover the cost versus performance trade-offs and the implications of enhanced parametric knowledge for SEO. They also explore new integrations and the innovative 'Anti Gravity' IDE, highlighting exciting opportunities for developers and agents alike!

Nov 18, 2025 • 52min
New Web Development Tech That’s On My Radar
In this episode of the HTML All The Things Podcast, Mike walks through the new web development tech that’s been landing on his radar. From next-gen formatters and bundlers to emerging UI frameworks and terminal-UI toolkits, Mike breaks down what each tool is, why it matters, and where its limitations are today.
In this episode Matt and Mike cover:
BiomeJS - all-in-one formatter/linter with strong Prettier compatibility
Ripple - an experimental TypeScript-first UI framework
TanStack Start - a router-first full-stack framework for React/Solid
Hono.js - tiny, blazing-fast multi-runtime web framework
Rolldown - Rust-powered bundler with major Vite build speed gains
Effect - type-safe effects/concurrency runtime for TypeScript
OpenTUI - build rich terminal UIs using React/Solid renderers
If you want a curated look at early-stage tools shaping how we might build for the web in 2025, Mike’s got you covered.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/new-web-development-tech-thats-on-my-radar
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Nov 15, 2025 • 23min
Web News: Web App vs App Store - Which Should You Build for 2025?
In this edition of Web News, we explore whether developers in 2025 should build a web app or launch through an app store. Web apps offer flexibility and reach, but platforms like the App Store and Google Play bring built-in visibility, reviews, and trusted security. We break down the advantages of each approach and discuss whether launching on a platform gives your project a major edge.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/web-app-vs-app-store-which-should-you-build-for-2025

Nov 11, 2025 • 55min
Why Isn’t Coding Fun Anymore?
In this episode of the HTML All The Things Podcast, Matt and Mike tackle a growing sentiment spreading across social media: coding just isn’t fun anymore. What changed? Why are so many developers - new and experienced - feeling burned out or disillusioned in 2025?
We break down what originally made coding exciting, from passion projects and creative problem-solving to the thrill of building something entirely new. Then we look at the forces eroding that joy today: elitism in developer communities, the rise of AI-generated code, factory-style expectations, impossible deadlines, layoffs disguised as “project completion,” and the uncertainty surrounding the future of the profession.
We also discuss whether the “art” of coding has been lost as AI handles more and more of the hands-on work, and what developers can do to rediscover meaning, fun, and sustainability in their craft - even in 2025.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/why-isnt-coding-fun-anymore
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Nov 8, 2025 • 28min
Web News: It’s Over For Junior Developers.
Junior developers are facing one of the toughest job markets in years. Memes of CS grads lining up for a single position might be funny online, but they reflect a harsh reality—AI is boosting senior developer productivity and shrinking opportunities for entry-level roles. Meanwhile, tighter deadlines and post-layoff workloads mean fewer seniors have time to mentor newcomers. In this edition of the Web News, we discuss what’s really happening to junior developers in today’s tech industry and what aspiring devs can do to survive - and even thrive - through it.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/its-over-for-junior-developers

Nov 6, 2025 • 32min
Leveraging Social Media and Content Creation | w/ Marko Denic
In this episode, Mike sits down with legendary developer and content creator Marko Denic - a full-stack web developer, educator, and agency owner with more than 260k followers across social media. They talk about Marko’s journey from building websites to building an audience, how content creation transformed his career, and what role AI plays in his work today.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/leveraging-social-media-and-content-creation-w-marko-denic

Nov 4, 2025 • 56min
JavaScript vs Python: Which Is Better for Building LLM Chatbots?
In this episode, Matt and Mike compare JavaScript and Python for building LLM-powered chatbots. They explore how each ecosystem handles tool calling, type safety, performance, and framework support — from TypeScript’s tight end-to-end types to Python’s dominance in data and ML. They also discuss architecture patterns that mix the best of both worlds, helping teams choose the right stack for scalable, efficient AI projects.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/javascript-vs-python-which-is-better-for-building-llm-chatbots
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Nov 1, 2025 • 21min
Web News: Is WordPress Still Relevant in 2025?
In this Web News episode, Matt and Mike dive into the big question — is WordPress still relevant in 2025? With modern tools like Webflow, SvelteKit, and Next.js gaining traction, does WordPress still deserve its spot as the world’s most popular CMS? The duo explore its staying power, the ecosystem that keeps it alive, and whether developers should still be learning it today.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/is-wordpress-still-relevant-in-2025

Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 2min
The Art of Client Research: Turning Client Needs Into Actionable Plans
In this episode of the HTML All The Things Podcast, Matt dives into the nuances of researching for a client. Learn how to take a client's diverse needs, turn them into actionable plans, and present solutions that fit perfectly—all while balancing technical expertise with a client-friendly approach.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/the-art-of-client-research-turning-client-needs-into-actionable-plans
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Oct 25, 2025 • 21min
Our Tech Is Too Fragile (AWS Outage)
In this Web News, Matt and Mike discusses the recent AWS outage and what it says about our overreliance on centralized services. From fragile cloud infrastructure to “move fast and break things” culture, this episode explores how we built systems that can take entire industries offline — and what developers can do to make technology more resilient, including offline-first features and smarter UX design.
Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcast/our-tech-is-too-fragile-aws-outage


