Communicating Climate Change

This episode features a conversation with environmental psychologist, Sophia Dasch. It was recorded in February 2026.Sophia works at the intersection of psychology, policy, and climate action. She’s an expert on the psychology of social movements, and of climate action more broadly.I discovered Sophia through her co-authored book “The Psychology of Collective Climate Action” which she describes as a passion project of the non-profit organization, Wandelwerk.The members of Wandelwerk – which roughly translates as "change collective" – are psychologists by training, grounded in scientific research, and at the same time they’re active participants in the climate movement. Their collective mission is to bridge these worlds by translating psychological insights into practical tools for climate action.They do this through workshops, educational programs, public engagement, and their own research – as well as publications like the book “The Psychology of Collective Climate Action,” which is freely available as an open-access resource. And, for me, is one of the most important reads of recent years. Alongside Wandelwerk, Sophia works as a policy consultant at the research institute ConPolicy, where she brings her expertise to topics such as Action for Climate Empowerment (or ACE), risk communication, and digitalization.Amongst other things, Sophia and I discussed the psychology of movement building, the three non-negotiables for collective climate action, and the many ways communicators can contribute to putting them in place. This one instantly slides into my top 10 biggest impact episodes. So, get your notepads ready!Additional linksGet the book The Psychology of Collective Climate ActionVisit the Wandelwerk website

Rune Kier Nielsen, an award-winning speechwriter and author who has worked with the Danish government and UN Environment Programme, shares how to craft climate speeches that collectivize action. He talks about why speeches still matter, using history to inspire, balancing urgency without doom, rhetorical tools like rhythm and props, and making climate relatable and human.

This episode features a conversation with award-winning investigative climate journalist, Amy Westervelt. It was recorded in June 2025.Amy has been on the climate beat for more than 20 years, reporting for a wide range of outlets including Inside Climate News, The Washington Post, The Guardian, The Nation, The Intercept, NPR, and many more. In the past 10 years, Amy has worked extensively in the audio realm, most notably with Drilled, a true crime podcast about climate denial.What was planned to be a single limited-run audio series was an absolute hit, and has now grown into an ongoing investigative reporting project digging into the various forces obstructing action on climate.Despite her successes in audio though, Amy continues to write regularly for a wide range of publications. In 2023 she was named one of Covering Climate Now’s Journalist of the Year and her work has previously received Murrow, ONA, SEJ, Rachel Carson, and Folio awards, as well as a Peabody nomination.Amongst other things, Amy and I discussed the structural influence the fossil fuel industry has carefully crafted over our information ecosystem; the magic that narrative injects into climate journalism; and the need for more of us to don our tin-foil hats a bit more often, because things are frequently way wackier than we’d maybe like to believe.Additional linksDrilled: https://drilled.media/Amy’s 5 petroganda narratives: https://drilled.media/news/petroganda-narrativesBen Franta’s paper on weaponising economics: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09644016.2021.1947636The Media Matters bubble graph: https://www.mediamatters.org/google/right-dominates-online-media-ecosystem-seeping-sports-comedy-and-other-supposedlyThe Black Thread: https://communicatingclimatechange.com/the-black-thread

The Black Thread is a new documentary podcast series unravelling Norway’s complex relationship with prosperity, identity, and responsibility in a warming world.Episodes will be dropping weekly over on Drilled Media.

This episode features a conversation with Diya Deb, executive director of Mindworks. It was recorded in April 2025.Growing up as an activist in India, Diya has in-depth experience of working in harsh political and social realities. With a variety of leadership roles under her belt from Amnesty and Greenpeace India, and a background in campaigning and program management too, she holds a deep belief in the need to decolonise knowledge and drive systemic change in Global Majority countries. At the helm of Mindworks, Diya works to apply cognitive and social science insights to support organisations and changemakers, particularly in Asia, Africa and Latin America, to campaign innovatively to address climate and other systemic issues.Amongst other things, Diya and I discussed the ways that mindsets in places like India and Indonesia demand new strategies and emphasis from climate communicators, the fresh ways that denial emerges in such contexts, and the desperate need for more listening in developing interventions and engagement that resonates.Additional links: Visit the Mindworks websiteDig in to the Anger & Agency MonitorCheck out the Time to Talk insights and toolkit

Rupert Read, Emeritus Professor of Philosophy and co-director of The Climate Majority Project, discusses the pressing need for transformative adaptation in climate strategies. He advocates for community resilience and localism as proactive measures in the face of climate realities. Rupert emphasizes the role of effective communication to inspire hope and agency among the public. Additionally, he introduces the concept of 'thrutopia' and explores how bridging political divides can unify efforts for climate action, urging a collaborative approach to tackle our environmental challenges.

This episode features a conversation with Ingmar Rentzhog, founder and CEO of We Don’t Have Time, the world’s largest media platform dedicated to climate action. It was recorded in March 2025.Ingmar is a serial entrepreneur in finance and communication, as well as a climate changemaker who’s been recognized internationally for his impact. He’s a European Climate Pact Ambassador and a member of Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project, and through his work at We Don't Have Time, he’s mobilising millions to hold businesses, leaders, and governments accountable and drive genuine progress. With a mission to democratize knowledge about climate solutions and mobilize global action toward a prosperous and fossil-free future, We Don’t Have Time boasts a community of more than 120,000 climate professionals and influencers spanning 180 countries, as well as partnerships with more than 450 companies, governments, and civil society organizations. We Don’t Have Time reaches 200 million people each month on social media!Amongst other things, Ingmar and I discussed the ways that technological infrastructures like media platforms and social networks can support grassroots action, the importance of both sticks and carrots in engaging companies, governments, and other actors on climate issues, and how understanding financial flows can help us propel our much needed societal transformation forward.Additional links: Check out We Don’t Have Time and join the community!Find out more about the Make Science Great Again campaign

This episode features a conversation with writer, editor and strategic communications consultant, Chinelo Onwualu. It was recorded in March 2025.Chinelo is co-founder of Omenana, a magazine dedicated to African speculative fiction, and is the former chief spokesperson for the African Speculative Fiction Society. She’s also one of the reviewers of entries for Grist’s Imagine 2200 climate fiction contest.Her writing has been featured in several anthologies and magazines, including Uncanny magazine, Strange Horizons, The Kalahari Review, and Brittle Paper.It has also earned her many merits including a nomination for the British Science Fiction Awards, as well as for the Nommo Awards for African Speculative Fiction, and also the Short Story Day Africa Award.With a background in journalism, Chinelo previously worked as a reporter and online editor in Nigeria and the United States, including as a senior editor for Cassava Republic Press, one of the leading independent publishers in all of Africa.In her consultancy work, Chinelo has spent more than a decade supporting multi-national non-profits across the world with their strategic communications, including WE Charity International, ActionAid Nigeria, The BBC World Trust, and the University of Sussex's Institute for Development Studies.Amongst other things, Chinelo and I discussed the importance of stories in shaping our societies, how fiction can help us make changes in our real lives, and what Western storytellers might learn from those whose cultures have already faced apocalyptic scenarios. Additional links: Visit Chinelo’s websiteGrist's Imagine 2200 climate fiction contestCheck out OmenanaPeruse Rosarium Publishing and Flame Tree PressExplore Roy Okupe’s comicsDiscover Nightmare magazine and Uncanny magazineRead more about Chinese author Cixin Liu

This episode features a conversation with film director, Joshua Oppenheimer. It was recorded in March 2025.Joshua gained notoriety through his documentaries The Act of Killing and The Look of Silence, which, amongst their many accolades, gained him Academy Award and BAFTA nominations. In fact, back in 2012, it was his extraordinarily beautiful and bizarre film, The Act of Killing, which follows former Indonesian death-squad leaders in reenacting their mass-killings through cinematic set pieces and lavish musical numbers, that put Joshua on my radar. The Guardian called it “The most compelling thing you’ll ever see.” I tend to agree. His latest film, entitled The End, hit cinemas in the UK and Germany last week.The End stars Tilda Swinton, Michael Shannon, and George MacKay, as a wealthy family living isolated lives in a luxurious bunker, two decades after an environmental catastrophe renders Earth's surface uninhabitable. But this isn’t your run-of-the-mill, seen-it-before disaster take, The End is a genre-bending tale that urges us to reconsider the illusions we hold about the fate of our planet and, perhaps crucially, our role in shaping that fate. Amongst other things, Joshua and I discussed The End, why we often find living in lies a more comforting situation than facing reality, and the need to challenge the silence and the self-deception that is all around us when it comes to climate.Additional links: The End is out now in Germany and the UK. Get tickets to cinemas near you here. Find out where to stream The End in your location by going here. Watch the trailer for The End.Get a sense of Joshua’s inspiration from The Umbrellas of Cherbourg.Check out the trailers for The Act of Killing and The Look of Silence.Here’s the panel discussion I mentioned, discussing silence around fossil fuels in Norway.Creatives for Climate is the largest and most diverse network of change-agents using creativity to drive climate action.Read George Lakoff’s book, Don’t Think of An Elephant.

This episode features a conversation with Boaz Paldi, Chief Creative Officer at the United Nations Development Programme. It was recorded in February 2025.In this role, Boaz oversees UNDP’s advocacy, campaigns, events, and activations. For example, back in 2021, he launched the now iconic #DontChooseExtinction campaign, featuring a dinosaur gatecrashing the UN General Assembly, highlighting research that revealed that for every dollar pledged to tackle the climate crisis, four dollars are spent on fossil fuel subsidies that keep that same crisis alive. Last year, Boaz delivered the award-winning #WeatherKids campaign, which used children to deliver weather reports from the future, spotlighting the catastrophic consequences of global inaction on climate change and its impact on the next generations.Through these, and other, activations at the UN, Boaz continues to push the envelope on the kinds of communication we see when it comes to climate, more broadly, as well as shifting what’s expected, and see as acceptable, when it comes to the messaging coming out of the most significant organization on the planet.Prior to joining UNDP, Boaz worked as a TV journalist for almost two decades, covering conflicts, natural disasters, and human-interest stories across Africa, the Middle East, Asia and Europe, first for the BBC, then for Reuters, where he worked as Executive Producer for TV News.Amongst other things, Boaz and I discussed the essential components of great climate campaigns, what happens behind the scenes to bring groundbreaking activations to life, and how the element of surprise can help us break through the noise.Additional links:Watch the #Don’tChooseExtinction campaign filmFind out more about #WeatherKidsWatch Weather Kids on YouTubeCheck out Activista AgencySee more from the Framestore Production HouseExplore work from climate writer Casey RandDiscover Anzu in-game advertisingSee more work from The ArterySee Oli Frost annoy fossil fuel financiersCheck out the documentary film, The Game Changers