39 GEN - a Yo San University podcast

In this powerful episode of the 39Gen Podcast, Sean Trace sits down with Dr. Laura Erlich, Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine, fertility specialist, doula, and teacher at Yo San University. Dr. Erlich shares her moving journey from theater to bodywork to Chinese medicine, driven by personal loss and a deep calling to heal. They explore the emotional toll of infertility, the importance of nervous system regulation, and how acupuncture can support individuals through every phase of the reproductive journey. Dr. Erlich also discusses the need for collaboration between Eastern and Western medicine and offers invaluable advice for new practitioners entering the field.

In this episode of the 39Gen Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Beck Hoehn, a board-certified reproductive health acupuncturist, medical advisor for UVA, and a leading voice in fertility innovation. We explore her journey from underwater photographer to holistic healer, and how she blends Traditional Chinese Medicine with cutting-edge hormone tracking technology. Dr. Hoehn shares powerful insights on pattern differentiation using urine metabolites, how to structure personalized fertility care, the role of mentorship and documentation in TCM, and why acupuncturists must embrace both medicine and business. A must-listen for anyone navigating fertility, integrative healthcare, or building a meaningful acupuncture practice.

In this compelling episode of the 39Gen Podcast, Sean Trace interviews Allen Tsaur, acupuncturist, translator, and lecturer in the YSU doctoral program, for an in-depth exploration of classical Chinese medicine. Allen shares his journey from engineering to acupuncture, how the ancient texts like the Nei Jing and Shang Han Lun shaped his clinical approach, and why real healing often means letting go of rigid ideology. They explore the art of translation, the beauty and limits of classical formulas, and what it really takes to help patients get better. From humbling clinical lessons to scholarly insights, this conversation bridges tradition and modern practice in a way that’s both grounded and inspiring.

In this episode of the Yo San University 39Gen Podcast, Sean Trace sits down with Coleen Smith and Whitney Fessler—two leaders in the field of reproductive acupuncture and current board members of ABORM (The American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine). They explore how integrative fertility care is evolving, the role of ABORM in raising standards for acupuncture practitioners, and why collaboration between Eastern and Western medicine is essential for helping patients conceive. From patient success stories to navigating clinical relationships with OB-GYNs and REIs, this is an inspiring conversation packed with insight, warmth, and wisdom for anyone passionate about fertility, healthcare, and holistic healing.Whitney opened her first acupuncture clinic in Flagstaff, Arizona. After several successful years there, Whitney, a Wyoming native, returned to Jackson Hole to continue her practice, renaming it to Grand Teton Acupuncture. She is pleased to offer traditional Eastern Medicine therapies including acupuncture, herbal remedies, nutritional consultations, and much more to residents and visitors of Jackson Hole. While Whitney enjoys treating all types of conditions, her passion is treating fertility issues. After much studying and researching, she decided to take the Acupuncture & TCM Board of Reproductive Medicine (ABORM) exam in 2018 in order to further her knowledge of both Eastern & Western conditions that often lead to infertility.Dr Coleen Smith established Point of Origin Acupuncture in Spokane Washington in 2004. Point of Origin provided the only specialized fertility acupuncture in eastern Washington. Women’s Health and IVF support became the focus of Coleen’s life. She receives referrals from reproductive endocrinologists, obstetrician gynecologists, lactation consultants and pelvic floor specialists to support women through various stages of pre and post-natal care. She is now a part of the executive branch of The Acupuncture and TCM Board of Reproductive Medicine, ABORM. She has been a fellow of the ABORM since its inception in 2008 and has been serving on the Board for 9 years.

In this profound episode of the 39Gen Podcast, Sean Trace speaks with Dr. Michael Berletich, faculty member at Yo San University, longtime teacher, and accomplished musician. Dr. Berletich shares his unique path from environmental science and Native American healing traditions into the world of Chinese medicine. The conversation explores themes of internal cultivation, symbolic patient language, and the deep alignment between human beings and nature. With reflections on teaching, healing, and the importance of Qigong, this episode is a rich tapestry of wisdom and inspiration for students, practitioners, and curious minds alike.

In this episode of the Yo San University 39 Gen Podcast, host Sean Trace sits down with acupuncturist and Yo San faculty member Daniel Schrier to explore the profound intersections between cultural anthropology, traditional Chinese medicine (TCM), and Taoist philosophy. Daniel shares his early exposure to alternative healing, his global studies of traditional medicine in China, Niger, and Fiji, and his journey into acupuncture and herbal medicine. They also discuss the importance of lineage, symbolism in Chinese medicine, and how names and formulas carry deeper meanings. A must-listen for anyone passionate about healing, cultural traditions, and the wisdom behind Chinese medicine.

In this episode of the Yo San University 39Gen Podcast, host Sean Trace welcomes acupuncturist, herbalist, and Yo San faculty member Kerri Westhauser to discuss the depth and complexity of Chinese herbal medicine. Kerri shares her journey into the world of herbalism, emphasizing the importance of vigilance in diagnosis and treatment. She explores how herbs interact, the necessity of constantly adjusting formulas, and the nuances of working with natural medicine. The conversation delves into integration vs. staying true to classical principles, the challenges of sourcing high-quality herbs, and how a deep understanding of nature and seasonality enhances treatment. This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about Chinese medicine, holistic healing, and the art of true personalized care.

In this insightful episode of the Yo San University 39 Gen Podcast, host Sean Trace sits down with Dr. Mazin Al-Khafaji, a world-renowned doctor of Chinese medicine specializing in dermatology and autoimmune diseases. Dr. Al-Khafaji shares his journey into Chinese medicine, his education in China, and his pioneering work in treating inflammatory skin disorders. Dr. Al-Khafaji has taught in the Yo San University doctoral program, and is currently running his 2-year dermatology diploma program at YSU.He discusses the power of herbal medicine, the nuanced approach to pattern recognition, and how Chinese medicine’s efficacy is demonstrated in clinical practice. From his groundbreaking involvement in eczema research at Great Ormond Street Hospital to his philosophy on continuous learning, this conversation is rich with wisdom for practitioners and enthusiasts alike. Whether you’re a student of Chinese medicine or simply curious about the healing power of herbs, this episode is a must-listen. 

In this enlightening episode of the 39Gen Podcast, host Sean Trace welcomes Brandt Stickley, associate professor at the National University of Natural Medicine and a student of the late Dr. Leon Hammer. Brandt also teaches in the YSU DAOM program. Here they dive into the profound depths of Chinese medicine, discussing Shen Hammer pulse diagnosis, classical acupuncture, and the Shang Han Lun's timeless insights. Brandt's process-oriented approach to healing, inspired by both ancient and modern philosophies, encourages us to see life as an ever-evolving, interconnected journey. This episode bridges the unseen and the tangible, offering valuable wisdom for practitioners and anyone seeking a deeper understanding of holistic health. For more info on his work, visit https://www.brandtstickley.com/

In this episode of the Yo San University 39Gen Podcast, Sean Trace welcomes Dr. Natalie Kilheeney, a Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine based in South Bend, Indiana. They delve into Dr. Kilheeney’s inspiring journey from an unfulfilling career to becoming a trailblazer in integrative wellness. She shares her experiences of building a thriving practice with two clinic locations, a 10-acre retreat farm, and a team of 35 practitioners. Dr. Kilheeney emphasizes the importance of self-cultivation, community building, and staying aligned with one’s purpose. They discuss the integration of shamanic practices with Chinese medicine, her vision for the future of integrative healthcare, and advice for new practitioners. Dr. Kilheeney’s journey exemplifies resilience, intention, and the transformative power of self-discovery.