Design Downtime

Grab a pen, paper, and maybe some dice, as Anthony Hobday joins us to discuss his journey into solo tabletop role-playing games (TTRPGs). He talks about discovering pen-and-paper solo TTRPGs while exploring dungeon crawling games, and finding the format appealing because it allowed him to create complete games as simple documents. Anthony describes his design philosophy, talks about creating games around a gimmick, like fitting all rules into 36 words, and touches on the crucial role of online platforms in supporting independent game creators. Throughout the conversation, Anthony talks about the strengths and weaknesses of solo TTRPGs compared to group games and video games, and shares surprising feedback from his community of players.Guest BioAnthony Hobday (he/him) thinks about interface design a lot. He shares everything he knows on his website. He prefers a systematic approach to design, but has a passionate interest in visual design.LinksAnthony’s website: https://anthonyhobday.com/Anthony’s games on itch.io: https://ahobday.itch.io/CreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

All quiet in the studio, as Homer Gaines joins us to share his lifelong journey with music production. He recounts developing his skills creating music with fellow students in high school, composing an original score for the school's production of “Fame”, and his evolution through college, where he worked in studios and performed with hip-hop groups. A devastating theft in 2003 caused him to abandon music entirely until his wife gifted him a Roland keyboard in 2016, prompting his return as an independent artist. Throughout the conversation, Homer reflects on the differences between producing for himself versus others, and his current focus on educating young artists about the business side of music.Guest BioHomer Gaines (he/him) is a designer, UI engineer, and certified accessibility professional with over 30 years of experience. With a background in behavioral psychology and neurology, he focuses on leading, promoting, and advancing accessibility at every stage in the product development lifecycle.LinksHomer on YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UC6q3s2LMS9YmUXrnL4vz7cgHomer’s website: https://www.homergaines.comHomer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/homergainesHomer on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/xirclebox.comCreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

It’s sticker time, as Stéphanie Walter joins us to talk about her love for paper crafting. After starting with stickers, she “branched” to colorful (and deliberately unrealistic) paper plants, focusing on fun rather than natural accuracy. Since then, Stéphanie expanded into creating 3D projects including earrings and lampshades, working with vinyl, thin leather, and shrink plastic. She talks about her design style and inspirations, how she prefers to gift her creations rather than selling them, and tells us about "Crafternoons" with friends where they gather virtually to work on creative projects.Guest BioStéphanie Walter (she/her) is a UX Researcher & Strategist based in Luxembourg with over 13+ years of experience, specialized in enterprise UX, inclusive design and accessibility. She teaches, speaks, and writes about design, UX research, cognitive biases, and the design-dev relationship, among other topics. She enjoys good tea, bike rides, and drawing illustrations. Her D&D alignment is chaotic neutral, and she is better at keeping her teammates alive in video games than her plants, though she makes an effort.LinksStéphanie’s website: https://stephaniewalter.design/Stéphanie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniewalterproStéphanie on Mastodon: https://front-end.social/@stephaniewalterStéphanie on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/stephaniewalter.bsky.socialCreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

Dye your hair blue and rip your jeans, because Bill Kurland is joining us to talk about his love for punk rock. He talks about getting exposed to punk at a young age and embracing the do-it-yourself ethos. Bill criticizes the policing of authenticity within punk communities, and describes having a "meta-punk" approach where he sometimes deliberately went against punk norms. He rejects the nihilistic "destroy everything" attitude associated with some in punk, and instead talks about his appreciation for the sense of community punk represents for him, before recommending albums for newcomers to the genre.Guest BioBill Kurland (he/they) is a misfit. A former musician, he's spent the last 15 years working at the intersection of brand strategy and experience design. He's built, grown and led high-performing teams through transformation at organizations of all sizes—from unicorn startups to Fortune 15 corporations. Currently, he's a Global Experience Design Director at McDonald's, leading the cross-disciplinary Design Foundations group, consisting of Accessibility, Design Systems, Design Technology, and UX Writing teams.LinksBill’s website: billkurland.comDesign Downtime Punk playlist on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1sBLGREySZYXfrCHdccCWs?si=JeCfE0V_S1OnrH2Im7xquw&pi=jHy53RCdRlS0hBill on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-kurlandCreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

They’re good dogs, especially when Kasey Labelle joins us to share her lifelong connection with puppies. She recounts her childhood with two family dogs before introducing Rhino, her beloved blue nose pitbull who chose her when he was just three weeks old and remained her companion for nearly 15 years. Kasey discusses how she's coped with Rhino's passing by becoming a dog walker, speaks passionately about the misconceptions surrounding pitbulls, and shares how Rhino's loving personality challenged those stereotypes. She also offers thoughtful advice for potential dog owners, emphasizing the importance of viewing dogs as family members and the different factors to consider when choosing the right dog.Guest BioKasey Labelle, CPWA (she/her) is a UX and design engineering leader with a passion for design systems and accessibility. In her current role as a Design Architect at iSeatz, she’s leading the evolution of a design system that powers a white-label travel loyalty platform. Previously, she built and led the multi-disciplinary design system team and accessibility program at Boston Scientific, establishing 0-1 and 1-n strategies and serving as a player-coach. In her downtime, you can find her at the beach, an art museum, concert, or game night; walking dogs; obsessing over spreadsheets; traveling; or attending fine arts and crafts workshops with friends.LinksKasey’s website: kaseyllabelle.comKasey on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kaseyllabelleCreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

It’s time for puppets and Shakespeare (?!) as Cheryl Platz joins us to talk about her journey into live streaming. She shares how her background as a professional actor and improviser led her to stream with her puppet Sprinkles, initially performing Shakespeare as part of a Twitch creative competition. While she didn't win the contest, she developed a loyal community that encouraged her to continue, adding video gaming to the mix. Cheryl reveals her background working at a Sesame Street theme park as a teenage puppeteer, explains how Sprinkles developed a distinctive personality of "hyper confidence”, and shares how maintaining this community has renewed her faith in the internet.Guest BioCheryl Platz (she/her) is an internationally renowned interaction designer, game designer, teacher, writer, and actress best known for her innovative work in a variety of industries ranging from video games to B2B cloud platforms and from consumer products to global philanthropy. Her design work has empowered billions of customers with fun, creativity, immersion, and sometimes just a little less friction at the office thanks to her work on some of the world’s biggest products, including Amazon’s Alexa and Echo Look, Microsoft Windows and Cortana, the Disney Parks PhotoPass system, the Sims family of games, and Microsoft’s Azure platform. Her recent roles include Director of Experience Design for Marvel Strike Force at Scopely and Director of User Experience for the Player Platform at Riot Games. Through her design education company Ideaplatz, Cheryl has delivered talks and workshops on 5 continents and over a dozen countries. Her first book, Design Beyond Devices: Creating Multimodal, Cross-Device Experiences, is the “manual for those who aspire to design the starship bridge of their dreams," and her newest book, tentatively titled Enduring Play: Creating Video Games that Thrive, is the design manual for anyone looking to build engaging video games with a holistic understanding of player needs, basic game design, the production process, and modern business considerations in the video game industry. Cheryl can be seen streaming most weeks on Sunday mornings answering game development and UX design questions at her Twitch channel.LinksCheryl on Twitch: https://twitch.tv/funnygodmotherCheryl on Youtube: https://youtube.com/c/funnygodmotherCheryl’s first book: https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/design-beyond-devices/Cheryl’s second book: https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/enduring-play/Cheryl’s website: https://cherylplatz.com/Cheryl on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/funnygodmother.bsky.socialCheryl on Instagram: https://instagram.com/@funnygodmotherCheryl on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylplatz/Cheryl’s Medium articles: https://cherylplatz.medium.com/CreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

Enjoy a foamy cup of coffee decorated with a heart, as Amy Ogg joins us to talk about her adventures in the world of competitive latte art. She provides an insider’s view of coffee competitions, describing the various events from latte art contests to espresso tastings and "best coffeehouse", and shares how she navigated the male-dominated competitive coffee scene. Amy tells us about her training approach that was focused on consistency and repetition, pouring hundreds of drinks to perfect specific patterns, and reveals her own personal signature design.Guest BioAmy Ogg (she/her) is a Seattle-based design systems nerd & coffee-lover. She is currently working on the Mindful Design System at Ensora Health, and enjoys giving back to the community in her free time. Amy serves as the Seattle Chapter Lead for Into Design Systems USA meetups, serves as the Mentor Team Lead at IterateUX, and also provides design mentorship through the iMentorship program at University of Washington’s iSchool. When not immersed in something design-related, Amy enjoys making craft coffee at home, roller skating along the Seattle waterfront and making music with her flute.LinksAmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyoggCreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

Here comes the literary trope of the “interview podcast”, when Steve Portigal joins us to talk about his journey into creative writing. Known for his non-fiction books on user research, he shares how he discovered a passion for writing fiction during the pandemic when he hit a personal wall, and enrolled in a creative writing course. Steve talks about balancing clarity with ambiguity, learning that not every reader needs to understand every reference, and his exploration of different writing styles and formats, from short stories about eccentric small-town characters to linked short stories about alien invasions.Guest BioSteve Portigal (he/him) is an experienced user researcher who helps organizations to build mature user research practices. He is the author of Interviewing Users: How To Uncover Compelling Insights (now in a second edition, including an audiobook version) and Doorbells, Danger, and Dead Batteries: User Research War Stories. He’s also the host of the Dollars to Donuts podcast.Steve is also generously offering a discount on his book. Use discount code DOWNTIME for 10% off of Interviewing Users when purchased from Rosenfeld Media. The discount code is good for the next 30 days, and you can also find this information in the show notes. LinksSteve’s book, Interviewing Users (2nd Edition): https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/interviewing-users-second-edition/.Use promo code DOWNTIME for 10% off when purchased from Rosenfeld Media. The discount code is good for the next 30 days.Steve’s website: https://portigal.com/Steve’s books: https://portigal.com/books/Steve’s podcast, Dollars to Donuts: https://portigal.com/podcast/Steve on LinkededIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveportigal/CreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

You have 30 minutes to find the code to the exit, as Shelby Corbella joins us to talk about her love of escape rooms. Shelby, who has completed over 220 escape rooms worldwide, tells us how her first immersive experience of a well-designed escape room helped her "escape" everyday life. She explains that escape rooms fulfill a unique need for her, as they engage multiple aspects of her brain simultaneously, and outlines the key elements that make an escape room memorable. As an experienced escape room player, Shelby describes her role as an "escape room sherpa," helping to identify team members' strengths and ensuring everyone has a positive experience. She also shares stories about her most memorable escape rooms, as well as those that are on her "bucket list".Guest BioShelby Corbella (she/her) is a Senior Product Designer specializing in design systems and diving into the emerging field of designing for AI. Her work balances functionality with innovation, aiming to elevate digital experiences while setting high standards for design consistency. Currently based in Colorado, Shelby spends her free time exploring scenic hiking trails before the chill of winter arrives. When not immersed in the great outdoors, she’s dedicated to achieving a perfect score on Astro Bot and is in the early stages of launching an escape room-themed blog and podcast, merging her love for puzzles with storytelling.LinksShelby’s escape rooms website: https://www.gtfoescapes.com/Shelby’s podcast, GTFO Escapes: https://rss.com/podcasts/gtfo-escapes/CreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.

We’re reaching new heights, as Katie Langerman joins us to talk about her adventures in indoor rock climbing. She introduces the different types of climbing (bouldering, top rope, and lead climbing), and talks about how climbing has become a way for her to confront her fear of heights. Katie discusses a serious ankle injury she sustained in 2023 while bouldering, and explains how returning to climbing after the injury was challenging yet therapeutic. She explores the problem-solving nature of climbing, and how that helps her achieve a near-meditative state. Katie also shares advice for people afraid of heights (like the host of this podcast), who are interested in giving rock climbing a try.Guest BioKatie Langerman (she/her) is an interface designer specializing in design systems, currently contributing to GitHub’s Primer. She focuses on creating flexible, scalable systems that help bridge the gap between design and code. Katie is also passionate about fostering collaboration across teams, sharing insights on leadership as an individual contributor, and tackling challenges like design tokens and asynchronous teamwork.LinksKatie’s podcast, Complementary: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/complementaryKatie’s website: https://www.langermank.com/Katie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/langermankKatie on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/katielangerman.bsky.socialKatie on Twitter/X: https://x.com/KatieLangermanCreditsCover design by Raquel Breternitz.