RETHINK RETAIL
RETHINK Retail
RETHINK Retail - the evolution of retail in today’s connected world.
Join us as we explore the most recent trends and innovations in commerce.
Join us as we explore the most recent trends and innovations in commerce.
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Apr 22, 2026 • 19min
Selling Without Sales: Ankur Goyal on Growth Strategy
Most growth leaders spend their lives chasing the promotional calendar. Ankur Goyal spent his time building a brand that didn't need one.
In this episode, Marie Schwartz sits down with Ankur Goyal, the man who helped lead Coterie to a major acquisition. They move past the standard "growth hacks" to reveal the discipline required for true innovation.
THE GROWTH BLUEPRINT:
📊 The Data Foundation: Before touching AI, you need a clean data warehouse. Ankur explains why AI is not a band-aid for a messy business, but a superpower for a disciplined one.
✍️ Messaging Over Medium: If you cannot sell your product on one channel at full price, adding four more won't save you. Ankur breaks down why the "creative engine" is the real heartbeat of growth.
🏗️ Selling Capability: Acquirers buy capabilities, not just spreadsheets. Ankur’s team built a self-sustaining machine that didn't rely on the "peak moments" of the retail calendar.
THE TAKEAWAY:
Stop managing the algorithm. Start mastering the message.

Apr 21, 2026 • 20min
From Chore to Ritual: How quip Uses Agility to Disrupt Oral Wellness
The era of "testing" AI is over. For retail leaders, the tension has shifted from theoretical potential to a mandatory operational overhaul. If you aren't actioning data within 24 hours, you’re already behind.
Recorded at Shoptalk, quip CEO Meredith Glansberg joins Kimberly Morgan, a Top AI Leader, to dismantle the hype surrounding retail tech. Glansberg argues that AI isn't a "point solution"—it is a foundational layer that must support the high-trust, high-touch reality of wellness products.
KEY INSIGHTS:
🏗️ Foundational Readiness: AI belongs in the infrastructure, not just the marketing. quip utilizes a 24-hour "communication loop" to turn insights into action, ensuring the brand moves at the speed of the consumer.
⚡ The Agility Edge: Being a "mid-market" player is a strategic superpower. Unlike legacy "big ships," quip’s nimble structure allows them to pilot and scale AI-driven shifts while competitors are still in committee.
🦷 Humanizing the Technical: Tech should solve physical friction. While AI identifies the need, human-centric design—from "gunk-free" handles to seamless travel cases—delivers the solution.
✨ Category Expansion: By linking oral hygiene to the "Get Ready With Me" (GRWM) beauty movement, quip is reframing a 2-minute chore as an essential wellness ritual.
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Apr 20, 2026 • 19min
Scaling Community: Sarah Grosz on the Allbirds Blueprint
Most brands treat influencers as a side project. At Allbirds, it is a unified revenue engine.
Sarah Grosz joins Marie Chevrier Schwartz to discuss moving the brand beyond ad-hoc product seeding to a 3,000-plus member network that drives predictable ROI.
THE CORE STRATEGY:
🛑 The Problem: The Ad Plateau: Traditional paid channels hit diminishing returns as spend increases. An influencer ecosystem creates "surround sound" that builds trust and lowers acquisition costs.
📸 The Approach: Content as an Asset: The biggest mistake is letting creator content die in a 24-hour story. Sarah discusses securing media usage rights upfront to "whitelist" posts and repurpose them across every digital touchpoint.
📈 The Result: Performance at Scale: By automating logistics and focusing on creator relationships, Allbirds has turned social proof into a scalable science.
THE TAKEAWAY:
Value is not found in a single post—it is found in the network.

Apr 18, 2026 • 14min
Why Most Companies Lose Their Edge as They Scale
Most organizations break the same way: they get bigger, slower, and more rigid.
Ujjwal Dhoot of Tractor Supply Company argues for the opposite approach: if you want to scale, you have to build like water—not like a box.
ADAPTABILITY OVER RIGIDITY:
💧 Build Like Water: Scaling doesn’t mean chaos; it means fluidity. The best teams know when to standardize—and when to flex.
🏗️ Structure Without Constraint: High-performing teams operate within a structure, but they aren’t trapped by it when the environment shifts.
⚡ Preserving Speed: This mindset is how you maintain momentum through growth and acquisitions, where culture and speed usually get diluted.
THE TAKEAWAY:
✨ If your organization only works under perfect conditions, it won't last.
🚀 If it can adjust without breaking, it will.

Apr 17, 2026 • 17min
Agentic AI in Luxury Retail: Making Personalization Work at Scale
Top Retail Expert Joshua Rockoff was joined by Yuliya Samsonava from EPAM and Vic Miles from Microsoft onsite at Shoptalk Spring to explore how agentic AI is being applied within luxury retail.
In this episode, we dive into connecting data across systems, supporting decision-making in real time, and elevating the role of store associates.
RETAILERS WILL GAIN INSIGHTS INTO:
📱 The Modern Associate: How to equip store associates with a complete, real-time view of each customer.
📈 Demand Signals: How to improve product allocation using live demand signals and client-level insights.
✨ Service Recovery: How to streamline service recovery while maintaining a high-touch, luxury experience.
🏗️ Orchestration: Why AI should sit as an orchestration layer across systems rather than a siloed tool.
THE BOTTOM LINE:
If you're evaluating where AI can drive measurable impact across your business, this podcast provides a grounded, execution-focused perspective.

Apr 17, 2026 • 18min
Why Your Store P&L Is Lying to You
If your digital team and your store team are arguing over attribution, you don't have a measurement problem. You have a customer problem.
Most retailers still treat stores like isolated P&Ls—judged on what happens inside four walls.
But something else happens the moment a store opens: Search spikes. Traffic shifts. Conversion improves—everywhere.
On the ground with Courtney Hawkins of CH Retail Group, we got into why the real metric isn't store revenue. It’s market-level impact.
HERE'S THE SHIFT:
💡 Stores aren't just sales channels—they're demand engines: A physical presence lifts digital performance across an entire metro.
🚀 Attribution models are fighting the wrong battle: When teams protect "their" numbers, they miss what’s actually driving growth.
📈 The store is your most underpriced asset: Marketing, fulfillment, brand—wrapped into one.
THE BIGGER IDEA:
• Customers don't think in channels.
• So why do our org charts and P&Ls?

Apr 16, 2026 • 15min
Stress-Testing (Retail?) Vendors in the AI Era with Levain Bakery
Most retail AI isn't solving problems; it's hiding them. The industry is currently addicted to "overlays"—cheap, automated layers that promise instant compliance—but building on a mask is just waiting for the legal or operational consequences to catch up.
At Shoptalk, Gustavo Cardona, VP of Technology at Levain Bakery, joined us to dismantle the "plug-and-play" fallacy. For a brand scaling from a neighborhood bakery to a national powerhouse, technology isn't a silver bullet—it's a foundation.
Cardona's playbook rejects "set-it-and-forget-it" tools in favor of code remediation (fixing the source, not the surface) and API flexibility. By integrating eight source systems into one "cent-perfect" data warehouse, Levain Bakery transformed tech from a cost center into a strategic engine.
THE KEY UNLOCKS:
🛠️ Remediation Over Overlays: Don't use AI band-aids for web accessibility. Fixing the underlying code de-risks the business and ensures a truly equitable customer experience.
🤝 The "Cent-Perfect" Peace Treaty: Unified data ends internal friction. When Finance and Operations pull from the same "fountain," the organization stops debating the data and starts acting on it.
🏎️ APIs are the Chariot; AI is the Cherry: Don't buy a vendor for their AI features alone. Prioritize API flexibility so your "chariot" (infrastructure) can handle 10x seasonal surges.
📊 Role-Based Reporting: "Dashboard fatigue" is a personalization failure. If a CEO can't make a decision based on a report that day, the report has failed.
THE TAKEAWAY:
Innovation isn't about having the most AI; it's about having the most discipline. The winners of this era will be those with the cleanest code and the most integrated data.

Apr 15, 2026 • 21min
Designed for Change: How Modular Architecture Is Rewiring Retail
The Central Nervous System: Rewiring Retail with Modular Architecture
Diebold Nixdorf and Kitestring explain how modular architecture serves as the foundation for resilience.
Guests Bernd Kraus and Eugene Park move beyond the "rip and replace" mentality to show how retailers can modernize while keeping the lights on.
Core Insights:
- By separating hardware from software, retailers gain the freedom to innovate on the storefront without waiting for a hardware refresh cycle.
- Store uptime is non-negotiable. The challenge is balancing the rapid "sprint" culture of e-commerce with the enterprise-grade reliability required for brick-and-mortar operations.
- From EV charging to third-party delivery, retailers are losing visibility into the customer journey. A modular backend is the only way to unify these disparate data points into a single, loyal experience.
The Bottom Line: A future-proof system does not exist. What exists is an agile system that allows you to say yes to the unpredictable.

Apr 14, 2026 • 30min
Crossroads of Commerce: Scaling Beyond DTC
Direct-to-consumer (DTC) gave brands control over experience, data, and customer relationships. As brands grow, that model alone becomes limiting.
This episode explores how brands move from subscription-based models into retail and multi-channel strategies — and what changes when products leave controlled environments and enter broader distribution.
Podcast Overview
Fritz Finlay is joined by Reba Hatcher, Chief Commercial Officer at ButcherBox, and Jennifer Cline, CMO of SubSummit.
Together, they discuss the transition from DTC to retail, focusing on how brands scale while maintaining consistency across channels.
Key Topics Covered
- Why DTC alone is no longer sufficient for growth
- How brands transition from subscription to retail
- The trade-offs between control, scale, and visibility
- What changes in product positioning, messaging, and packaging
- Operational challenges of multi-channel expansion
- How DTC and retail strategies can work together
About SubSummit
This episode is part of SubSummit (May 13–15, Kansas City), a leading event focused on subscription, commerce, and retail.
SubSummit brings together brands and operators working through multi-channel growth, including the shift from DTC to retail environments.

Apr 13, 2026 • 9min
How to Sell When Bots are Your Primary Customer with Hanna Andersson
Most retailers are still optimizing for a world where a human types a keyword into a bar. But at Hanna Andersson, Matt Ezyk is architecting for a reality where AI agents browse and filter on behalf of the consumer.
In this episode, we discuss the architectural survival of brand identity in a decentralized world.
- The Bilingual Storefront: LLMs crave data density (fit, texture, origin) that ruins human UX. Use "Accordion" Architecture to hide technical metadata from the human "dopamine hit" while keeping it readable for the bots that control discovery.
- LLMO (Large Language Model Optimization): Your brand identity is being reconstructed by AI using Reddit and training data. To stay relevant, return to the basics of structured data to ensure the machine treats your quality as a fact, not a slogan.
- The Intuition Guardrail: AI is a rearview mirror. It fails at "newness." Human merchandising "hunches" are the only way to signal relevance for new collections that lack historical data.
The Bottom Line: In 2026, building for the click is a legacy strategy. To survive the Agent Era, you must build for the conversation. If your site doesn't speak "bot," your human customers will never find your story.


