Public Defenseless

As one of the many states without a unified system of Public Defense, the consistency of Public Defense and access to legal services from county to county is wildly inconsistent. Joining Hunter to speak about this justice by geography model is Larry Jefferson, Director of the Office of Public Defense. Despite the name, Larry and his office only hold limited ability to direct and assist in the delivery of Public Defense across Washington. Nonetheless, Larry has dreams of a completely different model for justice that he hopes his office can help lead the state towards. Guests: Larry Jefferson Jr., Director, Washington Office of Public Defense, Resources: Washington OPD https://opd.wa.gov/ State v Blake https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/supreme-court/2021/96873-0.html Email Larry larry.jefferson@opd.wa.gov Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Devin Franklin from the Southern Center for Human Rights to discuss the latest violation of civil liberties in the state of Georgia. Today, they are discussing the recent indictment levied against 61 cop city protesters. As you read over the 100+ page indictment, you will find one consistent theme: the Attorney General of Georgia is doing everything in his power to cage as many people as possible who would dare challenge the power, plans, and policy of the state of Georgia. Guests: Devin Franklin, Movement Policy Counsel, Southern Center for Human Rights Resources: Cop City Indictment https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/GAOAG/2023/09/05/file_attachments/2604508/23SC189192%20-%20CRIMINAL%20INDICTMENT.pdf Coverage on the Indictment https://atlpresscollective.com/2023/09/05/georgia-attorney-general-brings-rico-indictments-against-61-activists/ YSL Indictment https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/young-slime-life-indictment.pdf Intercept Coverage of the Murder of Tortugita https://theintercept.com/2023/04/20/atlanta-cop-city-protester-autopsy/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/tortuguita-shooting-atlanta-cop-city-b2324547.html Southern Center for Human Rights https://www.schr.org/ https://twitter.com/southerncenter https://www.schr.org/protecting-dissent-schr-launches-first-amendment-lawyer-bridge/ Stop Cop City https://stopcop.city/ Follow Devin on Twitter https://twitter.com/BrotherInLawATL Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with President of the National Association for Public Defense's Board of Directors, Cydni Sanchez, to discuss the NAPD's plan to help Public Defenders around the country implement the new National Workload Standards. With her experience in New Mexico, Cydni is expertly situated to dissect the difficulties of making a workload study like this turn into meaningful policy victories. Guests: Cydni Sanchez, President, Board of Directors, National Association for Public Defense, Deputy Chief Public Defender, New Mexico Resources: Read the Full Report Here https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2559-1.html New Mexico ABA report https://www.americanbar.org/groups/legal_aid_indigent_defense/indigent_defense_systems_improvement/publications/nm-project/ 2007 Caseload Study 2021 Caseload Study New Mexico Public Defender Website Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter once again sat down with Stephen Hanlon to talk Public Defender Workload Studies. This time, they spoke about the brand new National Workload Standards for Public Defense that are finally out as of today! While it is extremely easy to be pessimistic about the potential for a workload study to lead to meaningful change in Public Defense, this could be a water shed moment. This report provides Public Defenders around the country with the data they need to stand up for themselves and their clients as the workload crisis rages on. Guests: Stephen Hanlon, Public Interest Attorney Resources: Read the Full Report Here https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2559-1.html Lawyer Hanlon https://lawyerhanlon.com/ Stephen Hanlon Law Review Article https://www.slu.edu/law/law-journal/pdfs/issues-archive/v61-no4/stephen_hanlon_article.pdf State v Waters https://casetext.com/case/state-ex-rel-mo-pub-defender-commn-v-waters Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Last year, Hunter spoke with members of the newly formed Defenders Union of Colorado (DUC) to discuss their reason for unionization and the challenges facing all employees of Colorado Public Defense. Today, Hunter is once again speaking with DUC, but this time, they discussed the complete failure of leadership to be transparent with them and how that is eroding trust between the two. Guests: Kiyomi Bolick, Long Time Colorado Public Defender and a Founding Organizer of DUC Mike Kubicek, Investigator, Durango Office of the Public Defender Oliver Rose Katz, Administrative Assistant, Brighton Office of the Public Defender Resources: Colorado Public Defenders Raise Concern over Pay https://www.denverpost.com/2023/05/17/colorado-public-defenders-pay-petition-union-16-million/ Follow DUC on Twitter https://twitter.com/DefenderUnionCO Follow DUC on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/defenders_union_of_colorado/ Colorado Public Defender https://www.coloradodefenders.us/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

When the Sixth Amendment Center came to Indiana, it left no doubt that Public Defense in the state was failing. Now seven years later, almost nothing has changed. How can that be possible? To answer that question and exploring why Indiana's Public Defender system is still failing, Hunter spoke with three Public Defenders, Ashley Spolarich, Deana Martin, and Joel Schumm, from Indiana. Guests: Ashley Spolarich, Chief Deputy Public Defender, Montgomery County Indiana Deana Martin, Major Case/Forensic Attorney, Marion County Professor Joel Schumm, Clincal Professor, Indiana Robert McKinney School of Law Resources: Sixth Amendment Center Report https://sixthamendment.org/indiana-stands-as-a-cautionary-tale-for-other-states-with-similar-indigent-defense-system-models/ Indiana Public Defender Task Force https://www.in.gov/publicdefender/publications/indiana-task-force-on-public-defense/#:~:text=The%20Indiana%20Task%20Force%20on%20Public%20Defense%20is%20chaired%20by,as%20various%20other%20stakeholder%20groups. Indiana Workload Report https://www.in.gov/publicdefender/files/The-Indiana-Project_FINAL.pdf Lawsuits in various counties in the state · Johnson County: https://www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/45762-coa-affirms-dismissal-of-johnson-county-public-defender-suit · Allen County: https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/news/crime/2016/01/06/suit-filed-against-allen-county-over-public-defender-system/46421583/ (Docket: https://clearinghouse.net/case/15792/?docket_page=2#docket) Indiana Lawyer Article on Shortage of Public Defenders https://www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/attorneys-hard-to-find-for-prosecutor-public-defender-openings-shortage-of-public-attorneys-leaves-offices-scrambling-to-manage-caseloads Indiana Public Defender Council https://www.in.gov/ipdc/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Ieshaah Murphy to understand how the racist history of the "Child Welfare" should inform our understanding of that very systems today. When analyzing a system for any type of systemic bias, it is essential to understand bot the past and present of the system. If a system that claims to be race neutral, but started with a clear racial animus and continues to produce racially disparate outcomes, it is compelling evidence that its bias initial purpose may still be active to this day. Guests: Professor Ieshaah Murphy, Assistant Professor of Law and Director of the Criminal Defense and Racial Justice Clinic, University of DC David A. Clarke School of Law Resources: Follow Professor Murphy on Twitter https://twitter.com/IeshaahMurphy Professor Murphy's Faculty Page https://law.udc.edu/ieshaah-murphy/ Fostering False Identities Book https://www.amazon.com/Fostering-False-Identity-Welfare-Systems/dp/B08TQGG3FR Torn Apart https://www.amazon.com/Torn-Apart-Destroys-Families-Abolition/dp/1541675444 Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

How many people die in custody? Such a simple question, but no one can actually tell you the answer. Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Jay Aronson to discuss his new book Death in Custody: How America Ignores the Truth and What We Can Do about It to explore the reasons why. Guests: Professor Jay Aronson, Professor of Science, Technology, and Society, Carnegie Mellon University Resources: Buy the book (use code HTWN) https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/authors/jay-d-aronson-phd Professor Aronson Faculty Page https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/history/people/faculty/aronson.html Follow Professor Aronson on Twitter https://twitter.com/jaydaronson Listen to the Official Ignorance Podcast! https://open.spotify.com/show/5n5OPnSGj3A3RYFvcJIH62?si=J65-gXWlRrWhSiaU8m7pZw https://officialignorance.com/earl-faison-and-the-origins-of-the-official-ignorance-project/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

For cops and prosecutors, the idea of not having access to their own forensic departments is almost inconceivable, but for Public Defense, that is the standard practice. Today, Hunter sat down with Jerome Greco, the supervising attorney for one of the only digital forensics unit in the country made specifically available to Public Defenders. With the rapid expansion of surveillance and digital technology in the hands of police and prosecutors, Public Defense should look to the success of Jerome and his team as a potential model to fight back. Guests: Jerome Greco, Digital Forensics Supervising Attorney, New York Legal Aid Society Resources: Follow Jerome on Twitter https://twitter.com/JeromeDGreco Email Jerome jgreco@legal-aid.org Upturn https://www.upturn.org/ NACDL 4th Amendment Center https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/FourthAmendmentCenter Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by former NACDL President Martin Sabelli to discuss the criminal charge that everyone is talking about, RICO. As with many laws on the books, RICO started out designed to target a specific group of people: leadership of the Mafia. Also like many laws on the books, it was written in such an ambiguous and wide manner that prosecutors could use it far beyond its intended purpose. Over the years, RICO has been used against targets never intended or envisioned by those who originally supported the law, and today's episode is all about understanding how that happened, why it happened, and what, if anything, we can do to try and stop the creative and expansive use of a law that infringes on the rights of people every time a prosecutor decides to be "creative" with its use of RICO. Guests: Martin Sabelli, Former President of NACDL and longtime Federal Criminal Defense Attorney Resources: Resources on RICO Cases 1st Amendment and RICO https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1237/rico-laws Issues with RICO https://sites.law.duq.edu/juris/2021/11/17/the-checkered-past-and-present-of-the-rico-act/ Fani Willis Prosecution of Teachers https://theappeal.org/atlanta-cheating-prosecutions-fani-willis-rico/ Issues with RICO https://www.independent.org/publications/TIR/article.asp?id=215 Email Martin msabelli@sabellilaw.com Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN