

Public Defenseless
Hunter Parnell
Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.
Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.
Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.
Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.
Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.
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Oct 16, 2024 • 58min
287 | How California Law Enforcement Agencies are Keeping Police Misconduct Hidden w/Katey Rusch
Today, Hunter is joined by journalist Katey Rusch to discuss her recent bombshell reporting on California law enforcement agencies use of "clean record" agreements to keep police misconduct from defense lawyers, the public, and even other law enforcement agencies. Guests: Katey Rusch, Reporter, California Resources: Contact Katey https://journalism.berkeley.edu/person/katey-rusch/ katey.rusch@gmail.com https://x.com/KateyRusch https://www.facebook.com/kateyrusch/ Read the Reporting Here: https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-clean-record-agreements/ https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/clean-record-agreements-investigation-19752768.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-clean-record-agreements-pensions/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Oct 15, 2024 • 1h 2min
286 | The Courts Giving Young People the Specialized Resources they Need to Succeed w/Paul Bowen and Jacqueline van Wormer
Today, Hunter is joined by Paul Bowen and Jacqueline van Wormer Ph.D. to discuss the juvenile treatment courts that they have helped set up around the country. As has been the case on previous episodes about youth defense, today we discuss both the politics and science behind ensuring that courts are considering the unique needs of the youth being processed through them. Guests: Paul Bowen, Project Director, Treatment Court Institute, All Rise Jacquline van Wormer Ph.D., Director, Center for Advancing Justice, All Rise Resources: All Rise https://allrise.org/news/meet-our-divisions-4/ https://www.instagram.com/allrise_org/ https://www.facebook.com/AllRise.org https://x.com/_allrise_ https://www.youtube.com/@AllRise_org https://www.linkedin.com/company/weallrise Contact Paul https://allrise.org/our-team/paul-bowen/ Contact Jacqueline https://crmj.wsu.edu/chair-faculty-graduate-students-and-staff/faculty/jacqueline-van-wormer/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Oct 10, 2024 • 1h 6min
285 | How the Civil Legal System Makes it Difficult to Hold Larry Nassar, the Catholic Church, and Other Powerful Organizations Accountable w/Parker Stinar
Today, Hunter is joined by civil litigator Park Stinar to discuss his work in suing people and organizations who have sexually violated his clients. Through his career, Parker has pursued justice against Larry Nassar and Michigan State, the Catholic Church, Juvenile Detention Facilities, and the University of Michigan because of their role in the sexual assault of his clients. While not a normal episode for the show, today we ask a vitally important question: If our criminal legal system is operating properly and it is difficult to secure a conviction, what other avenues are available to people to get remedy and redress for the wrongs done to them? Guests: Parker Stinar, Managing Partner, Stinar Gould Grieco and Hensley Resources: Parker Stinar Contact https://www.sgghlaw.com/attorneys/parker-stinar/ https://x.com/parkerstinar Catholic Church https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/21/louisiana-catholic-church-sexual-abuse-victims-lawsuit-window#:~:text=Months%20after%20Louisiana's%20supreme,to%20strike%20the%20statute%20down. https://ballsandstrikes.org/legal-culture/louisiana-supreme-court-church-abuse-case/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/12/louisiana-supreme-court-child-sexual-abuse-catholic-church Larry Nasser and University of Michigan State https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2024/04/23/justice-doj-larry-nassar-victims/73426711007/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Oct 9, 2024 • 1h 13min
284 | How Alabama's Fines and Fees Fail Criminal Defendants, Victims, and the Entire State w/Leah Nelson and Judge Stephen Wallace
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Leah Nelson, and this time, she is joined by Judge Stepehen Wallace. On today's episode, Leah and Judge Wallace are her to unveil their years long research into the fines and fees that the Jefferson County, Alabama Courts are extracting from criminal defendants. As will surprise no one who listens to the show, the fines and fees program fails the accused, fails victims, fails to fund the legal system, and thus, fails the entire state of Alabama. Guests: Leah Nelson, Co-Founder, Jefferson County Equitable Fines and Fees Project, Alabama Stepehen Wallace, Circuit Judge, Jefferson County, Birmingham, Alabama Resources: Coverage of Aug. 2024 Releases https://aldailynews.com/court-fee-system-inefficient-discriminatory-research-finds/ https://aldailynews.com/column-crime-and-garnishment/ https://aldailynews.com/capitol-journal-september-13-2024/ Oct. 2024 paper with IBM https://krvarshney.github.io/pubs/LaraYejasJMNSTNBV_aies2024.pdf Aug. 2024 with MDRC https://www.mdrc.org/sites/default/files/JeffCoFines%26Fees_Brief_FInal.pdf Background reading on-- Brookside (the Ferguson of Alabama): https://www.al.com/bankingoncrime/ Alabama tax policy and how the Alabama constitution encourages reliance on fines and fees: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/opinion/alabama-fines-fees.html Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Oct 8, 2024 • 1h 11min
283 | The Restorative Justice Program Trying to Heal the Wounds of a Wrongful Conviction w/Jennifer Thompson and Jamie Lau
Today, Hunter is joined by two people who's work attempts to bring people together to heal after a wrongful conviction. Jennifer Thompson, Founder of Healing Justice, and Professor Jamie Lau from Duke University join the show to discuss how they help the wrongfully convicted, the victims in a wrongful conviction, the families of both, and the communities they are from come together to talk and hopefully heal from the bomb that is a wrongful conviction Guests: Jennifer Thompson, Founder, Healing Justice Jamie Lau, Clinical Professor of Law, Duke University School of Law Resources: Healing Justice Website https://healingjusticeproject.org/ Contact Jamie https://law.duke.edu/fac/lau https://x.com/laudurham Innocence Network https://innocencenetwork.org/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Oct 3, 2024 • 1h 6min
282 | How a Former Public Defender Hopes to End Mass Incarceration as a Progressive Prosecutor w/Matthew S
Today, Hunter is joined by former Public Defender and current Senior Advisor to District Attorney Larry Krasner, Matthew Stiegler. After Tuesday's episode, we saw the promise and limitations of Public Defenders holding police accountable, and today, we examine those same promises and limitations for criminal legal reforms that progressive prosecution offers. Guests: Matthew Stiegler, Senior Advisor to District Attorney Larry Krasner, Philadelphia Resources: Follow Matthew on Twitter https://x.com/matthewstiegler?lang=en Philly DA https://phillyda.org/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Oct 1, 2024 • 1h 12min
281 | How Philly Public Defenders Uncovered Systemic Abuses in the Philly Police Department w/Paula Sen and Michael Mellon
Today, Hunter is joined by two Philly Public Defenders, Michael Mellon and Paula Sen, to discuss how their work with the Philly Public Defender Police Accountability Unit helped to uncover a systemic pattern and practice of lies and illegal use of surveillance cameras. Guests: Paula Sen, Assistant Public Defender, Defender Association of Philadelphia Michael Mellon, Assistant Public Defender, Defender Association of Philadelphia Resources: Reporting on the Illegal use of Surveillance Cameras https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-police-video-surveillance-drug-arrests-20240508.html Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Sep 26, 2024 • 1h 9min
280 | Why did the Stanislaus County Public Defender Say they Were Ready to Refuse Taking New Cases w/Jennifer Jennison
Today, Hunter is joined by Stanislaus County Chief Public Defender, Jennifer Jennison. In the past year, Jennifer has been confronted with the most challenging question a Chief can face: Should I refuse to take on new cases because the current workload that my attorneys have is unethically high? Today's episode attempts to understand that historical and current conditions that lead Jennifer to make this difficult decision. Guests: Jennifer Jennison, Chief Public Defender, Stanislaus County, California Resources: Modesto Bee Reporting https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article288551423.html Stanislaus County Public Defender https://www.stancounty.com/publicdefender/ OSPD Reporting on Public Defense in California https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Californias-58-Public-Defense-Systems-Accessible.pdf Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Sep 24, 2024 • 60min
279 | The Problems with Public Defense in Nueces County Texas w/Jessica Brand and Adrienne Johnson
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Jessica Brand and Adrienne Johnson of the Wren Collective. This time, Jessica and Adrienne join to discuss their recent report about the failings of Public Defense in Nueces County, Texas. Guests: Jessica Brand, Founder, Wren Collective Adrienne Johnson, Senior Counsel, Wren Collective Resources: Wren Collective Website https://www.wrencollective.org/ Wren Collective Report https://www.wrencollective.orgfiles/ugd/8fe8f057ace02e045642318ef78fa366f9c32d.pdf Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Sep 19, 2024 • 1h 6min
278 | The Systemic Corruption and Coverups at the Denver Sheriff Department w/Brittany Iriart and Andy McNulty
Today, Hunter is joined by former whistleblower Brittany Iriart and Civil Rights Attorney Andy McNulty to discuss a scandalous coverup with the Denver Sheriffs Department. When she moved to a civilian oversight position with the Denver Sheriff, Brittany hoped to bring some much needed accountability to a department with a history of burying misconduct. Unfortunately, the incremental changes around the edges did little to reign in a department that viewed itself above the law. Guests: Brittany Iriart, Former Whistle Blower, Colorado Andy McNulty, Civil Rights Attorney, Newman McNulty, Denver, Colorado Resources: Coverage of Brittany's Case https://whistleblowersblog.org/whistleblower-of-the-week/brittany-marie-iriart/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/denver-whistleblower-loses-job/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/denver-whistleblower-put-on-administrative-leave-after-speaking-out-about-deputy-punching-inmate-in-wheelchair/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/video-shows-denver-deputy-punch-inmate-in-wheelchair/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/denver-pays-175k-to-fired-whistleblower-who-tipped-off-the-problem-solvers/ https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/denver-whistle-blower-claims-deputy-discipline-is-broken/73-fce759b7-def2-46a7-9ebe-36d39a3bfedd https://www.aljazeera.com/videos/2020/7/10/whistle-blower-protection-calls-to-defend-those-who-speak-up Contact Andy https://nmlaw.squarespace.com/whistleblower-wins Government Accountability Project https://whistleblower.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NewMayGovAcctProj_Blue-Wall-of-Silence-Report231.pdf Other Issues with Denver Sheriff https://www.9news.com/article/news/investigations/allegations-ties-gangs-denver-sheriffs-department-never-fully-investigated/73-8492c480-b933-448c-902a-598a50ba3274 https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/investigations/independent-monitor-denver-sheriffs-department-internal-affairs-investigation-flawed/73-529774856 https://www.westword.com/news/denver-sheriff-internal-affairs-bureau-to-be-put-under-civilian-control-11011209 https://www.westword.com/news/chris-colbrunos-naked-march-at-center-of-denver-sheriff-whistleblower-lawsuit-6771556 Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home


