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Zak Cole, builder of decentralized, privacy-first agent stacks, and Austin Griffith, Ethereum tooling advocate and dev-experience builder, dive into AI agents on Ethereum. They discuss hardware and local vs cloud models. They cover agent coordination channels, role assignment and adversarial QA. They explore reputation, ERC-8004 discovery, token/vesting experiments, and agent-driven deployments.

A wide-ranging chat about building ElizaOS and shipping agent tooling through a bear market. They unpack agent-native games, OTC trading experiments, and ports to Python and Rust. The conversation dives into open-source mindshare, community dynamics, and how agents reshape work, ownership, and funding models. They end on cultural shifts needed for meaningful, coordinated building.

Patricia Parkinson, a long-term community and civic engagement practitioner who designs convenings and movements. Benjamin Life, a community builder focused on civic infrastructure and bioregional organizing. They explore turning Network Nations into real-world movements. Short takes on theory of change, scenius and shared culture. Conversations about functional sovereignty, territorial risks, and practical pattern languages for civic systems.

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, host Felix Beer is joined by Helena Rong, Assistant Professor at New York University Shanghai, to explore SeeDAO as a real-world case study of a proto Network Nation. They unpack how SeeDAO evolved from a Web3 startup into a translocal, diasporic community rooted in Daoist philosophy, kinship, and the pursuit of a "good life." The conversation dives into co-presence, emergence, non-coercive governance, social ledgers, on-chain identity, and how SeeDAO blends digital infrastructure with physical gathering from online town halls to rural pop-up communities in China. A rich, grounded discussion on how culture, values, and practice not just tooling shape the future of Network Nations, and what bottom-up community governance can look like beyond the Western DAO paradigm. 🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/felix_beer https://x.com/helena__rong https://seedao.xyz/ Helena's work on SeeDAO: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5731428 ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – From theory to practice: proto Network Nations 01:10 – Introducing SeeDAO as a case study 02:19 – Digital policy for global nomads 03:20 – Welcoming Helena Rong 04:26 – Helena's research on SeeDAO 05:42 – SeeDAO as a Chinese-speaking DAO 08:00 – From startup to community 09:45 – COVID, isolation & diasporic connection 11:46 – What does a "good life" mean in SeeDAO? 12:30 – Daoist philosophy & Web3 13:40 – Co-presence as the foundation of community 14:55 – Emergence & non-governance as governance 16:23 – Wandering (xiaoyao) as freedom 18:09 – Culture vs tooling in Web3 communities 19:30 – Day-to-day practices inside SeeDAO 20:18 – On-chain onboarding & participation 22:32 – Reputation, contribution & governance tokens 24:38 – Blockchain as a social ledger 26:34 – Is SeeDAO a proto Network Nation? 28:31 – Translocality & offline gatherings 30:32 – Digital nomad week & rural revitalization 32:51 – DAO as scaffolding for real communities 34:48 – Instrumental vs value-driven governance 36:53 – Sovereignty, China & parallel worlds 39:02 – Network Nations alongside nation-states 41:21 – Digital nomads & rural China 43:41 – Co-presence across villagers, nomads & DAOs 45:52 – Integration, not exit 48:00 – Interoperability between communities 50:13 – Lessons from SeeDAO for Network Nations 52:13 – Helena's research & where to find her work 53:10 – Closing thoughts

Danilo Da Rosa, a software engineer turned permaculture practitioner and natural builder who relocated to rural Uruguay, shares his journey from health crisis to regenerative living. He talks about land selection, digital tools for contour and water mapping, rainwater catchment and ponds, cob house building, patience in permaculture, and the social power of community and skill-sharing.

Jessy Kate Schingler, co-founder of the Embassy Network and builder of translocal co-living spaces, shares stories from a decade of intentional community-building. She explores how culture and identity form without formal membership. The conversation moves to jurisdictional innovation like Gelephu Mindfulness City and how special zones, charter cities, and regulatory sandboxes can anchor networked communities.

Santiago Siri, a pioneering technology entrepreneur and founder of Democracy Earth, discusses the evolution of digital democracy. He explores whether protocols can liberate us from politics or merely spawn new political landscapes. Santiago details his journey from Argentina’s Partido de la Red to creating DemocracyOS and Proof of Humanity. Key topics include the challenges of decentralized identity, the impact of AI on governance, and the lessons learned from real-world democratic experiments. His insights reveal the complex interplay between technology and political power.

Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum and a key figure in blockchain innovation, joins Primavera De Filippi and Felix Beer to discuss the Zuzalu experiment. He delves into the challenges of forming genuine communities versus transient gatherings. Vitalik explores the importance of physical permanence for culture and governance, contrasts mission-driven versus kinship-based communities, and shares insights on decentralized networks and emerging political actors. The conversation highlights the need for community-centric designs to support lasting social ties.

In this engaging conversation, Erika Blair, a network and engagement strategist at the Burning Man Project, shares her journey into the vibrant community of Burning Man. She discusses its cultural response to consumerism, the origins of the iconic event, and how it fosters a sense of belonging through its 10 Principles. Erika delves into the evolution of regional burns worldwide and reflects on the challenges of growth, cultural dilution, and maintaining the essence of the movement. A thought-provoking exploration of community dynamics and identity!

Jake Hartnell, a reality engineer and builder behind ENOVA, delves into 'hyperstitions'—beliefs that become real through networks. He explains how concepts like Bitcoin and AGI epitomize this phenomenon, acting as self-fulfilling prophecies. The discussion covers hyperstition markets that align incentives and narratives to drive community action. They explore the mechanics of donation markets, the nature of egregores, and the pivotal role of aligned communities in enacting change. This thought-provoking dialogue reveals how collective belief can shape our future.