

Some Dare Call It Conspiracy
Some Dare Call It Conspiracy
Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an investigative podcast examining conspiracy culture from the inside out.Hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, the show explores how conspiracy narratives form, how they spread, and why they are so effective at capturing attention and loyalty. Both hosts spent years immersed in conspiracy belief before walking away, giving them first-hand insight into how these movements operate, evolve, and entrench themselves.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, expert voices, and a distinctly British sense of humour, the podcast combines serious analysis with sharp, often self-deprecating commentary. The focus is on systems, incentives, and influence, rather than punching down at ordinary people caught up in belief.The show is best known for its long-form Deep Dives into specific conspiracy narratives, commentary on conspiracy influencers and alternative media ecosystems, and interviews with journalists, researchers, and insiders working in this space.Conspiracy thinking is no longer fringe. It shapes politics, public health, and personal relationships. This podcast exists to help listeners understand that landscape with clarity, context, and a sense of proportion.---About the HostsBrent Lee is a writer, producer, and former conspiracy activist whose decision to leave the movement, and to speak openly about that process, attracted widespread media attention. On the podcast, Brent focuses on production, creative direction, and analysis grounded in lived experience.Neil Sanders is a writer and researcher who was once regarded as a respected figure within the conspiracy world. Before leaving, he authored books on mind control and MKULTRA-related narratives and hosted his own programme on David Icke’s Ickonic network. Neil now leads on research and analysis for the show.Together, they bring an insider’s understanding, investigative rigour, and a refusal to take grift seriously, even when the subject matter is heavy.---Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracyContact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.
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Apr 18, 2023 • 1h 25min
Interview • David Gilbert: Discussing Disinfo and Conspiracies With Senior Reporter At Vice
After 20 years of exploring the world of Conspiracy, we're taking our guests & listeners on a guided tour of the Rabbit Hole. Deconstructing & demystifying popular conspiracy theories along the way. Our only mission? To discover where the truth lies. 👁 Today we are interviewing David Gilbert, Senior Reporter at VICE, covering the internet, disinformation and conspiracy theories. Website: https://www.vice.com/en/contributor/david-gilbert Twitter: https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee & Neil Sanders. PODCAST: anchor.fm/somedarecallitconspiracy TWITTER: twitter.com/somedarepodcast WEBSITE: somedarecallitconspiracy.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Mar 31, 2023 • 1h 30min
Deep Dive • 15 Minute City Conspiracy Theories (With Greg Hall)
After 20 years of exploring the world of Conspiracy, we're taking our guests & listeners on a guided tour of the Rabbit Hole. Deconstructing & demystifying popular conspiracy theories along the way. Our only mission? To discover where the truth lies. 👁 Today we are discussing the Conspiracy du jour "15 Minute Cities" and are joined by Director and Film Maker Greg Hall Website: https://www.directorgreghall.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DirGregHall Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee & Neil Sanders. PODCAST: anchor.fm/somedarecallitconspiracy TWITTER: twitter.com/somedarepodcast WEBSITE: somedarecallitconspiracy.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Mar 8, 2023 • 1h 33min
Commentary • The Lockdown Files: Do Leaked Matt Hancock Messages Confirm A Conspiracy?
Welcome back to #HashtagConspiracy.. a subdivision of Some Dare Call It Conspiracy! This is episode two... The #LockdownFiles! Today we are covering Matt Hancock's WhatsApp messages leaked by Isabel Oakeshott and The Telegraph with none other than Graham Bottley! You may know him as the notorious Twitter Handle @SwaledaleMutton! Follow us on twitter @BrentLeeSDCIC @NeilSandersMC @SomeDarePodcast and tell us what you thought about today's episode. Keep up to date with everything we do at SOMEDARECALLITCONSPIRACY.COMBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Feb 21, 2023 • 43min
Bonus • Conspiracy Emcees: Jedi Mind Tricks And Immortal Technique
A lively recap of a Manchester night with Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique and R.A. The Rugged Man. A dive into how underground hip hop connects with anti‑authority and conspiratorial themes. Discussion of battle rap craft, technical mastery, stage presence and shifting limits on offensive lyrics. Nostalgic memories of finding rare music before the internet and recommendations for intense underground acts.

Jan 16, 2023 • 1h 39min
Interview • Flint Dibble: Ancient Apocalypse, Graham Hancock And Conspiracy Theories
Welcome to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy! Today Brent Lee is speaking with Flint Dibble, an Archaeologist from Cardiff University about Graham Hancock and his new Ancient Apocalypse series on Netflix. This conversation was first sparked on Twitter when Brent decided it might be time to confront one of the conspiratorial beliefs he was still holding on to. He invited a few of Graham Hancock's critics to speak with him and Flint Dibble graciously accepted the invite. Enjoy! Follow @FlintDibble on Twitter and YouTube! Follow @BrentLeeSDCIC on Twitter and @BrentLeeTV on YouTube! Follow @NeilSandersMC on Twitter! Follow @Somedarepodcast on Twitter!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Jan 15, 2023 • 1h 55min
Deep Dive • Hunter Biden: The Laptop, The Movie And The Truth (3/3) What's Really On The Laptop?
Welcome back to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy with Brent Lee and Neil Sanders! Today we are diving deep into Hunter Biden's laptop. The allegations and rumours orbiting this topic range from mild to evil.. so we invited our friends from the Lads On Tour Podcast to join us on this exploration. Time to discover where the truth lies! Hunter Biden: The Laptop * The Movie * The Truth - Part Three: What Is Really On The Laptop? (Guests: Lads On Tour)Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Jan 15, 2023 • 1h 3min
Deep Dive • Hunter Biden: The Laptop, The Movie And The Truth (2/3) What's Allegedly On The Laptop?
Welcome back to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy with Brent Lee and Neil Sanders! Today we are diving deep into Hunter Biden's laptop. The allegations and rumours orbiting this topic range from mild to evil.. so we invited our friends from the Lads On Tour Podcast to join us on this exploration. Time to discover where the truth lies! Hunter Biden: The Laptop * The Movie * The Truth - Part Two: What Is ..Allegedly.. On The Laptop? (Guests: Lads On Tour)Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Jan 15, 2023 • 56min
Deep Dive • Hunter Biden: The Laptop, The Movie And The Truth (1/3) “My Son Hunter” Movie Review
Welcome back to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy with Brent Lee and Neil Sanders! Today we are diving deep into Hunter Biden's laptop. The allegations and rumours orbiting this topic range from mild to evil.. so we invited our friends from the Lads On Tour Podcast to join us on this exploration. Time to discover where the truth lies! Hunter Biden: The Laptop * The Movie * The Truth - Part One: "My Son Hunter" Movie Review (Guests: Lads On Tour)Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Dec 24, 2022 • 1h 2min
Interview • Marianna Spring: A Day In The Life Of A BBC Disinfo Journalist
Welcome to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy.. we have got a very special gift for you today.. an Interview with fan and friend of the show Marianna Spring - Marianna is the "Disinformation and Social Media Correspondent" at the BBC - You may know her from her undercover voters investigation - Americast - Panorama- and critically acclaimed podcasts : "Death By Conspiracy" - "War on Truth" - and "Disaster Trolls" which features both myself and Neil in our very own episodes. Disaster Trolls has just been named best podcast of 2022 according to The Observer and Mashable.com Before we start.. A quick heads up! This is a Christmas special, so we do start off with a few softball questions but it doesn't take long to get into the nitty gritty.. and of course, with a BBC representative present.. we were not going to miss the opportunity to discuss concerns about BBC bias, what makes them the arbiter of truth, building 7, investigating vaccine injuries and Jimmy Savile. We get into it all.. enjoy! Marianna Christmas everyone! Follow us on Twitter! The show: https://twitter.com/somedarepodcast Neil: https://twitter.com/NeilSandersMC Brent: https://twitter.com/BrentLeeSDCIC Marianna: https://twitter.com/MariannaSpring Listen to Disaster Trolls: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001dn64Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook

Nov 19, 2022 • 1h 20min
Bonus • Live Debate On Vaccine Safety For Children: Graham Bottley -vs- Dolores Cahill
Hey! It’s me… Brent Lee! Ok so on the 25th of October 2022 - I hosted a live debate on Twitter Spaces between Professor Dolores Cahill and Dr. Graham Bottley (You may know him as Swaledale Mutton) - Originally this was supposed to be a debate between Dr Bottley and an outspoken GP named Dr. Dave Cartland. But at the very last moment while we were waiting on the line for Dr Cartland to come on, we were greeted by Professor Dolores Cahill. This is the debate that followed!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.Join us to discover where the truth… lies.Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracyTwitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcastBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.socialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracyFacebook: https://www.facebook


