

Revision Path
Maurice Cherry, Lunch
This is Revision Path — an award-winning weekly showcase of Black designers, developers, and digital creatives from all over the world. Each week, host Maurice Cherry interviews these creators about their work, their goals, what inspires them, and much more. First podcast in the Smithsonian NMAAHC.
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Jun 3, 2019 • 1h 3min
297: Brett Marshall
Designing for public safety might not sound like the most exciting job, but that's because you haven't heard Brett Marshall describe it. As the principal designer at CentralSquare, he helps design interfaces that are used by police officers, first responders, and public administration agencies across the country.
Brett and I talked about the unique challenges he faces with his work, and he also shared how he went from designing at ad agencies to winding up at his current role. We also discussed Brett's background, and he spoke about some his influences in the industry and what he wishes he knew when he first started as a designer. Learn more about him in this week's interview!
Brett Marshall's Twitter
Brett Marshall's Linkedin
Brett Marshall on Medium
Brett Marshall on Dribbble
Six years. 300 episodes. One night to celebrate.
Come out on June 14 for Revision Path's 300th Episode Celebration! It's at The Greene Space in New York City, and tickets are on sale now! Get yours today! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/revision-paths-300th-episode-celebration-tickets-60205497263
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Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown.
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May 27, 2019 • 1h 15min
296: Shar Biggers
I first heard of about Shar Biggers from one of our past guests, Ida Woldemichael, and from just the first few minutes of our conversation I knew that this was going to be a great interview. Like Ida, Shar worked on the Hillary for America campaign, and helped to shape the messaging and visual style of the candidate during her most recent run for public office.
While we did touch on Shar's political design work and spent some time talking about campaign life, we mostly talked about her backstory and her newest venture — a brand consultancy and design firm called Provoke. Shar's knowledge of psychology and business also feeds into another one of her businesses — a line of premium designed phone cases called Aitarah. According to Shar, there's no reason to have design without strategy, and that's something she's definitely applied to her life and her career. Thank you Shar for being an inspiration!
Shar Biggers on Linkedin
Provoke
Provoke on Instagram
Aitarah on Instagram
Six years. 300 episodes. One night to celebrate.
Come out on June 14 for Revision Path's 300th Episode Celebration! It's at The Greene Space in New York City, and tickets are on sale now! Get yours today! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/revision-paths-300th-episode-celebration-tickets-60205497263
It's survey time!
Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on June 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown.
Like this episode? Then subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Spotify, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
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Revision Path is brought to you by Glitch, the friendly community where everyone can discover and create the best stuff on the web.
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May 20, 2019 • 49min
295: Angelica Quicksey
Angelica Quicksey's insights into civic design are unique and insightful. She designs federal government services with a focus on digital transformation. As a recent graduate with two masters degrees from Harvard University, she is also now co-teaching a course on technology and innovation in government.
Angelica is passionate and our conversation touched on the many changes going on in the industry. If you want to learn and be inspired make sure to give this episode a listen!
Angelica Quicksey's Twitter
Angelica Quicksey's Linkedin
Six years. 300 episodes. One night to celebrate.
Come out on June 14 for Revision Path's 300th Episode Celebration! It's at The Greene Space in New York City, and tickets are on sale now! Get yours today! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/revision-paths-300th-episode-celebration-tickets-60205497263
It's survey time!
Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on June 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown.
Like this episode? Then subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Spotify, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
Subscribe and leave us a 5-star rating and a review! Thanks so much to all of you who have already rated and reviewed us!
Revision Path is brought to you by Glitch, the friendly community where everyone can discover and create the best stuff on the web.
You can also follow Revision Path on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Come chat with us! And thanks for listening!
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May 13, 2019 • 45min
294: Abraham Asefaw
Abraham Abbi Asefaw is not only an inspiring entrepreneur who has founded two agencies but a relatable and inspiring voice in the industry. As the Co-Founder of The Pop Up Agency, which he created before he turned 30, Abraham has stepped into his role as a leader in the industry with gusto. His major clients include Facebook, Adidas, Nissan, and Sky.
During our conversation, we discussed his journey from leaving the legal field and taking the brave leap into entrepreneurship, the major differences between international clients and American brands, his unique vision for the Pop Up Agency, and his goal to re-define the role of creatives in the industry. Abraham is challenging the status quo and bringing us all along on the ride!
Abraham Asefaw's Twitter
Abraham Asefaw's Linkedin
It's survey time!
Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on June 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Keisha “TK” Dutes.
Like this episode? Then subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Spotify, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
Subscribe and leave us a 5-star rating and a review! Thanks so much to all of you who have already rated and reviewed us!
Revision Path is brought to you by Glitch, the friendly community where everyone can discover and create the best stuff on the web.
You can also follow Revision Path on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Come chat with us! And thanks for listening!
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May 6, 2019 • 57min
293: Kim Williams
According to Kim Williams, it takes real grit to be in the design field. She serves as the group manager for the UX core team at Indeed, where she leads a interdisciplinary team of designers, technologists, writers, and researchers working across the globe.
We talked a lot about design leadership -- what it takes to not only build and lead a team, but also how to enable them to do their best work and make sure they have what they need to succeed. From there, Kim shared her journey as a designer, starting from her humble roots growing up in Jamaica to leading design efforts at Ogilvy & Mather, eBay, and now her time at Indeed. It's important as a designer of color in this field that we own our narrative, and Kim's definitely someone who is doing that! Get inspired from listening to her story today!
Kim Williams' Twitter
Kim Williams' Linkedin
It's survey time!
Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on June 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Keisha “TK” Dutes.
Like this episode? Then subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Spotify, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
Subscribe and leave us a 5-star rating and a review! Thanks so much to all of you who have already rated and reviewed us!
Revision Path is brought to you by Glitch, the friendly community where everyone can discover and create the best stuff on the web.
You can also follow Revision Path on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Come chat with us! And thanks for listening!
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Apr 29, 2019 • 42min
292: Melvin Hale
Melvin Hale may say he's "a regular guy who beat the odds," but with twenty years of design experience and a decade of design leadership under his belt, he's so much more than regular.
We started off talking about Melvin's current work at Facebook, and quickly went on to a look back at his time growing up in Vallejo, going to college in the South, and his journey as a designer through the ad agency world before ending up in Silicon Valley. Melvin also shared tips on how he builds creative teams, spoke on some of his career influences, and even talked about whether or not his kids want to follow in his footsteps. Give this week's episode a listen and learn more about Melvin!
Melvin Hale's Website
Melvin Hale's Linkedin
It's survey time!
Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on May 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Keisha “TK” Dutes.
Like this episode? Then subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Spotify, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
Subscribe and leave us a 5-star rating and a review! Thanks so much to all of you who have already rated and reviewed us!
Revision Path is brought to you by Glitch, the friendly community where everyone can discover and create the best stuff on the web.
You can also follow Revision Path on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Come chat with us! And thanks for listening!
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Apr 22, 2019 • 1h 1min
291: Dexter Ferguson
Dexter Ferguson might be a young designer in this industry, but he is committed to using his abilities to really help change the world. By day, he works at Airbus Aerial as a product designer, helping insurance companies make decisions on damages and risks. When work is over, Dexter puts on his entrepreneur hat as the founder of DebtBennies, a job listing board with companies that will help you pay down your student loans. Pretty innovative!
We talked about how Dexter is able to balance both 9-to-5 work with running his own side projects, and he even gave some really great advice to those out there looking to get to the next level in their career. We also spent some time examining Atlanta’s design and tech scene, with Dexter sharing some his favorite things to do in the city. Dexter’s philosophy of striving for progress ensures that his trajectory in this industry is going to be a positive one, and I think we’ll be hearing a lot more from him in the future!
Dexter Ferguson's Website
Dexter Ferguson on Linkedin
DebtBennies
It's survey time!
Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on May 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
Like this episode? Then subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Spotify, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
Subscribe and leave us a 5-star rating and a review! Thanks so much to all of you who have already rated and reviewed us!
Revision Path is brought to you by Glitch, the friendly community where everyone can discover and create the best stuff on the web.
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Apr 15, 2019 • 58min
290: Will Miner
A common theme on Revision Path is that there's no set path to being a part of the design industry. Will Miner, the senior director of UX at the education company 2U, is a prime example of this. As technology helps level the playing field for a number of different areas of study, professionals like Will help make sure that experience is simple and user-friendly.
We started off talking about Will's work at 2U, including building and leading teams while keeping diversity and accessibility in mind. He also shared how he first got into design via plant science, why he decided getting an MBA would help further his design career, and even shared news about his next big move. Will is a prime example that there are lots of ways to succeed in this field!
Will Miner's Website
Will Miner's Linkedin
It's survey time!
Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on May 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
Like this episode? Then subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Spotify, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
Subscribe and leave us a 5-star rating and a review! Thanks so much to all of you who have already rated and reviewed us!
Revision Path is brought to you by Glitch, the friendly community where everyone can discover and create the best stuff on the web.
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Apr 8, 2019 • 1h 5min
289: Dave Hall
Guests of the show know that before we do an interview, I always ask them what I call “the Oprah question.” But how do you ask the Oprah question to someone who works for Oprah? Turns out that when you’re Dave Hall, that’s a pretty easy task. As the VP of digital design for the Oprah Winfrey Network, Dave oversees a number of different design professionals from coast to coast to create interactive and eye-catching work for web and TV.
Dave walked me through a typical day, including sharing how he works with his team and how they approach new projects. We also spent time talking about the possibilities and challenges for designing for television, and Dave shared information on his upcoming graphic novel project! Dave says that you don’t have to ask for permission to be successful, and his journey as a designer proves that!
David Hall's Website
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Apr 1, 2019 • 49min
288: Jonathan Sangster
If you're a part of Chicago's design scene, then you've no doubt heard of the multitalented Jonathan Sangster. They are currently an assistant professor of design at Chicago State University, and they also collaborate on projects involving visual art, design, printed matter, typography and visual experimentation.
We spoke about Jonathan's recent exhibition at this year's Typeforce, and from there they shared a peek into their creative process which challenges binary thoughts by layering expriences and pursuing different points of view through visual outputs. Jonathan also talked about what he learns from his students, the Chicago design community, and a lot more. Thank you Jonathan for your work and for talking with us about what you do!
Jonathan Sangster's Website
Jonathan Sangster on Instagram
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Take our annual audience survey at revisionpath.com/survey, and help shape the future of Revision Path! Survey ends on May 1 at midnight ET! Thanks for your feedback!
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