Talking Michigan Transportation

Michigan Department of Transportation
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Dec 6, 2019 • 27min

The Michigan Council on Future Mobility, driverless cars, toll roads and electric vehicle charging

The guest is John Peracchio, chairman of the Michigan Council on Future Mobility, who shares insights on the Council’s work. https://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-9623_31969_93141---,00.htmlTopics include: — The mission of the Council on Future Mobility and why the Legislature created the body in 2016. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(o3mmuho4hf5b4b1ydjjfhhaa))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-257-665— Connected and automated vehicles. What the future holds. Between polling in 2018 and again in early 2019, Epic-MRA saw a slight shift in people’s perceptions of automated vehicles. There is a pronounced generational divide on the topic, with elderly people being much more averse despite the view of many that automated vehicles will bring mobility and independence later in life. https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot/2019_MDOT_Self-drivingCars_EpicPoll_669727_7.pdfhttps://www.theseniorlist.com/blog/driverless-cars-for-seniors/— Mobility for all imperative. Michigan has one of the oldest populations among the 50 states, with 16 percent of residents age 65 or older. Automakers in Michigan lead in developing technology that will give these people mobility option and extended freedom. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-us-states-with-the-oldest-population.htmlhttps://www.mlive.com/news/2018/01/aging_michigan_senior_citizens.html— Toll roads. As a bill authorizing a study of tolling some Michigan roads makes its way to the Senate floor, John, a recent member of the International Bridge, Tunnel, and Turnpike Association (IBTTA), talks about the feasibility of tolling in Michigan and methods to confront social equity challenges. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2019-2020/billanalysis/Senate/pdf/2019-SFA-0517-F.pdf— With automakers investing more in electric vehicle technology, John talks about the need for broader charging infrastructure and addressing challenges, including range anxiety and vehicle costs. And questions persist about the disposal of batteries and the impact on the environment. By 2040, more than half of new-car sales and a third of the global fleet (equal to 559 million vehicles) is projected to be electric.https://www.thedrive.com/news/26637/americans-cite-range-anxiety-cost-as-largest-barriers-for-new-ev-purchases-studyhttps://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-afterlife-of-electric-vehicles-battery-recycling-and-repurposing/
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Nov 21, 2019 • 15min

How MDOT tackles winter

On this week’s Talking Michigan Transportation podcast, a conversation with Mark Geib, MDOT engineer of operations and the head of maintenance - meaning, he oversees statewide efforts to clear snow and keep state highways passable.Mark talks about innovations in clearing snow and ice and practices adopted by MDOT where winter maintenance officials are always looking for ways to stretch taxpayer dollars by making salt go farther, which also provides environmental benefits.We’ve come a long way in snow plowing since the 1930s. A few years ago, MDOT received this 1930s-era newsreel from sisters Nancy and Barbara Sleeper of Newberry, whose grandfather, Sanborn Sleeper, was the superintendent of the Luce County Road Commission from 1928 until sometime around World War II. The Sleepers donated the film to MDOT for public display. The film offers a glimpse of the era when Murray Van Wagoner, a future Michigan governor, ran the department from 1933 to 1940.A perennial question during winter storms is why more salt is not being used. Mark explains how temperatures determine when salt is used and when it can be effective.A bill in the state Legislature would encourage MDOT to use “organic additives” (such as sugar-beet by-products) to reduce use of road salt and seeks testing at some water crossings.Other innovations discussed include the tow plow, introduced by MDOT in 2013 to increase efficiency and plow more lanes in fewer hours.Links - Innovations in clearing snow and ice:https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2018/12/31/road-salt-worth-bad-environment/2356069002/- 1930s-era newsreel:https://youtu.be/NH20lpFu_3Q- When salt is used:https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot/MDOT_Salt_Cure_258508_7.pdf- Organic additives bill:http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2019-2020/billanalysis/Senate/pdf/2019-SFA-0379-A.pdf- Tow plow:https://youtu.be/PIp04N6pLvw
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Nov 15, 2019 • 18min

Discussion about legislation to study tolling in Michigan

On this week’s episode of Talking Michigan Transportation, Jeff talks with MDOT senior policy analyst Aarne Frobom about legislation voted out of a Michigan Senate committee to require a study of tolling some Michigan routes. Read the Senate Fiscal analysis of the bill.http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2019-2020/billanalysis/Senate/pdf/2019-SFA-0517-F.pdfFrobom observes that in Michigan, we now pay a toll equivalent of 2.7 cents per mile we drive in fuel taxes and vehicle registration fees, and that would need to be twice as much to maintain our current system of roads and bridges.From the Reason Foundation, the case for tollinghttps://reason.org/wp-content/uploads/files/congress_states_highway_tolling_flexibility.pdfAn excerpt: Tolling opponents misrepresent this approach as “erecting toll booths on the Interstate.” That is wrong for two reasons. First, it implies simply charging more to use the same worn-out, inadequate lanes (which is illegal under the terms of the Pilot Program). Second, it calls to mind obsolete 20th century toll booths, when what innovative states are proposing is 21st century all-electronic tolling, with all tolling being done either via transponders (like E-ZPass in the northeast and Midwest, SunPass in Florida, and FasTrak in California) or via license-plate billing.And from the Alliance for Toll-Free Interstates, the case against tolling, outlined recently in a statement on efforts in Connecticut: https://www.tollfreeinterstates.com/news/atfi-statement-misguided-connecticut-tolls-push-undermines-governor%E2%80%99s-new-transportation-plan“We appreciate efforts to resolve the state’s transportation problems and that the Governor has scaled back the use of tolls in his new plan. However, we remain dejected at Governor Lamont’s press for wasteful tolling bureaucracies when there are more common-sense transportation funding methods that do not carry a long list of negative impacts the way tolls do.”Links to topics discussedSenate Bill 517http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2019-2020/billintroduced/Senate/pdf/2019-SIB-0517.pdfSenate fiscal analysishttp://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2019-2020/billanalysis/Senate/pdf/2019-SFA-0517-F.pdfReason Foundation https://reason.org/wp-content/uploads/files/congress_states_highway_tolling_flexibility.pdf
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Nov 7, 2019 • 22min

Why we say "crash" and not "accident"

On this week’s Talking Michigan Transportation podcast, Jeff talks about the reason safety experts insist on the term “crash” instead of “accident.” His guest is Lloyd Brown, director of communications at the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO), who has been advocating on the issue since his days at the Washington State Department of Transportation two decades ago. He wrote about the issue in his blog after MDOT produced a video on the topic.Later, they discuss the results of a number of transportation ballot issues decided Tuesday in cities and states across the country.- For Transportation Safety, Words Matter: ‘Crash,’ not ‘Accident’https://talkingtransportation.wordpress.com/2019/10/30/for-transportation-safety-words-matter-crash-not-accident/- Crash, Not Accidenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_dqA9kl6JA&feature=youtu.be Crash not accidentBefore the Associated Press issued a style change for terms describing transportation collisions, a 2015 Vox column covered the evolution and history of the terms, observing that we don’t say "plane accident." We shouldn’t say "car accident" either. Yet, the CEO at Boeing did just that in his Oct. 29 Congressional testimony.The background also includes how jaywalking became something worthy of citations from law enforcement. As Vox explains, "At the time, the word 'jay' meant something like rube or hick - a person who didn't know how to behave in a city. So these groups promoted use of the word jay walker as a way to shame people who didn't obey traffic laws."- Associated Press Cautions Journalists That Crashes Aren’t Always “Accidents” https://usa.streetsblog.org/2016/04/04/associated-press-cautions-journalists-that-crashes-arent-always-accidents/- We don’t say “plane accident.” We shouldn’t say “car accident” either.https://www.vox.com/2015/7/20/8995151/crash-not-accident- Boeing CEO: These heartbreaking accidents are now part of our legacyhttps://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6098765042001/#sp=show-clips- Jaywalkers, Jayhawkers, Jay-Towns and Jays – a Pedestrian History and Etymology of “Jaywalking”https://esnpc.blogspot.com/2014/11/jaywalkers-and-jayhawkers-pedestrian.htmlTransportation on the ballotJeff and Lloyd also talk about transportation ballot issues across the country and how they fared Tuesday. Especially of interest were the results in the state of Washington and the vote in Denver where Mayor Michael Hancock has committed to doubling the share of trips taken by foot, bike, bus, and train by 2030 while reducing solo driving drips to 50 percent. Voters also approved measures in the state of Maine and cities of Houston, Albuquerque, Cincinnati, and Springfield, MO.- Washington voters favoring Tim Eyman’s I-976 to slash car-tab fees in Tuesday’s election resultshttps://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/election-results-2019-initiative-976-car-tab-fees-taxes-tim-eyman-washington-state/- Denver voters give the city its own transportation department
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Nov 1, 2019 • 27min

Work zone safety

In the wake of two recent road worker deaths in Michigan, Jeff talks with two people with expertise and personal experience in work zone issues:- Lindsey Renner, supervisor of MDOT’s work zone safety section; and- Craig Innis, an MDOT construction engineer injured while working on a project near Flint in 2016.The fallen road workers include MDOT maintenance worker Kevin White, 48, who was clearing large debris from the shoulder of I-94 in Berrien County Oct. 23 when a passing truck lost tires and one of them struck him. The other, Barry Hause, 54, was an employee of Charlotte-based C&D Hughes. He died from injuries sustained when a car drove into a work zone late at night on Sept. 23 and struck him while he was repairing concrete on I-96 near Portland.Both men left behind daughters in college and a host of other loved ones.Lindsey talks about efforts in Michigan and across the nation to raise awareness of the risk involved in working in, and driving through, road work zones. MDOT mourns lost road workers, reminds everyone about work zone safetyhttps://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-9620_11057-510931--,00.htmlThe Zipper Merge (13:25)In his 2008 book “Traffic,” author Tom Vanderbilt extolled the virtues of late merging. The public has been slow to adapt but studies and data support his premise. Known as the zipper merge, it is among innovations to enhance safety and improve the flow of traffic in work zones. The concept has shown success in other states and been piloted in west Michigan. Minnesota DOT officials have been trying to educate the public about the benefits for years and some believe "Minnesota nice" makes it difficult to adapt.Tom Vanderbilt: Why I Became a Late Merger (and Why You Should Too)http://tomvanderbilt.com/books/traffic/excerpt/Don't be a roadblock: MDOT explains 'zipper merge'http://tomvanderbilt.com/books/traffic/excerpt/Nice Minnesotans Don't Get the Cruelly Efficient Zipper Mergehttps://www.wired.com/2016/06/nice-minnesotans-dont-get-cruelly-efficient-zipper-merge/One Step From Death (18:42)MDOT construction engineer Craig Innis comes on the podcast to share the dramatic story of how he narrowly escaped serious injury when a vehicle crashed where he was working along I-69 in Flint in 2016. Craig's storyhttps://www.michigan.gov/workzonesafety/0,9411,7-390-93570---,00.html
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Oct 24, 2019 • 31min

Jeff interviews veteran Michigan pollster Bernie Porn, president of Epic-MRA.

On this week’s Talking Michigan Transportation podcast, Jeff interviews veteran Michigan pollster Bernie Porn, president of Epic-MRA. Topics include the public comfort level with automated vehicle technology, polling on road funding solutions in Michigan and alternatives, and the recent discussion about revising Michigan’s legislative term limit law: — As Michigan automotive and technology industries, government agencies and academia continue to collaborate and lead on the public policy to support development of automated vehicles, public perception is evolving. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/mobility/2019/09/12/michigan-self-driving-car-testing-programs-get-major-federal-grant/2290311001/Between polling in 2018 and again in early 2019, Epic-MRA saw a slight shift in people’s perceptions of automated vehicles.https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot/2019_MDOT_Self-drivingCars_EpicPoll_669727_7.pdf There is a pronounced generational divide on the topic, with elderly people being much more averse despite the view of many that automated vehicles will bring mobility and independence later in life. Driverless Cars for Seniors: Will it improve quality of life?https://www.theseniorlist.com/blog/driverless-cars-for-seniors/ — Views on tolling and vehicle miles traveled. An Epic-MRA poll in Michigan in August found 42 percent favor some degree of tolling while 49 percent oppose. https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot/MDOT_Fees_EpicPoll_669728_7.pdf A question about assessing a fee based on miles traveled found 33 percent in favor while 57 percent oppose. Still, some states are piloting vehicle miles traveled (VMT) programs as others conclude that people are driving more miles but consuming fewer gallons of fuel. State moves closer to decision on phasing out the gas tax | Tacoma News Tribunehttps://www-1.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article232744457.html — How might a change to Michigan’s term limit law affect the ongoing debate about restoring Michigan roads? Anti-gerrymandering group may team with Michigan GOP to tackle term limits | Bridge Magazinehttps://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/anti-gerrymandering-group-may-team-gop-tackle-term-limits
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Oct 17, 2019 • 27min

Ken Sikkema and Bob Emerson have a plan to solve Michigan's transportation funding crisis.

On the latest edition of Talking Michigan Transportation, Jeff talks with former Michigan legislative leaders Ken Sikkema and Bob Emerson about a bold bipartisan plan they offered to solve Michigan’s decades-long transportation funding crisis.https://dehayf5mhw1h7.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/757/2019/01/31110650/MichiganConsensusPolicyRoadFundingProposal.pdfSikkema, a Republican, served as Michigan Senate majority leader from 2003 through 2006, and Emerson, a Democrat, served as budget director from 2007 through 2010 under Gov. Jennifer Granholm. Emerson also served as Michigan Senate minority leader from 2003 through 2006. Emerson and Sikkema co-chaired the Michigan Consensus Policy Project, which in January proposed raising the state’s tax on gasoline and diesel fuel by 47 cents over nine years. Many research studies informed their recommendations, including reports from the Citizens Research Council and the 21st Century Infrastructure Commission, a non-partisan group that identified Michigan’s need for investment in roads at $2.6 billion, a number already obsolete because of the continuing deterioration of roads and bridges. https://www.michigan.gov/documents/snyder/21st_Century_Infrastructure_Commission_Final_Report_1_544276_7.pdfEmerson and Sikkema’s group also explored other ideas to raise the revenue but found broad agreement on the traditional fuel tax because of the difficulty in a transition to other road-funding mechanisms. One idea discussed includes a vehicle miles traveled (VMT) fee. That concept has been piloted in other states and most recently gained traction in Washington state.The Washington Transportation Commission will review a report from a panel that studied a pay-by-mile system that could replace the gas tax. https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/state-transportation-commission-reviewing-report-on-pay-by-mile-tax/997659364Myths about gas tax hikes in Michigan: https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot/MDOT_Chart-GasTaxIncreaseTMTPodcast_668919_7.pdf
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Oct 11, 2019 • 22min

MDOT's Ryan Mitchell Visits to talk about the Soo Locks and Innovative Contracting

On the latest episode of the Talking Michigan Transportation podcast, Jeff talks with Ryan Mitchell, manager of MDOT’s Innovative Contracting Unit.Topics include:Ryan’s work on financing for the much-needed additional lock at the Soo Locks, operated and maintained by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Detroit District. This is the district’s largest project, located on the St. Marys River in Sault Ste. Marie, Mich., on the international border with Canada. Approximately 80 million tons of commercial commodities pass through the Soo Locks annually.https://www.lre.usace.army.mil/Missions/Recreation/Soo-Locks-Visitor-Center/Soo-Locks-History/— MDOT’s first successful public-private partnership (P3), helping to restore freeway lights in Metro Detroit.https://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151--433009--,00.html— The modernization of I-75 in Oakland County, north of Detroit, and the use of a P3 for a key segment.https://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20170924/news/640086/i-75-will-be-states-largest-public-private-transportation-project
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Oct 2, 2019 • 21min

A visit from former MDOT chief policy analyst, Polly Kent

On the latest edition of the Talking Michigan Transportation podcast, Jeff talks with Polly Kent, who retired earlier this year as MDOT’s chief policy analyst. As administrator of the department’s intermodal policy and asset management division, Polly provided analysis on transportation funding to several administrations. She talks about the decades-long debate about a sustainable funding source for transportation infrastructure in Michigan, including her role in providing data that informed Gov. Whitmer’s Fixing Michigan Roads Fund proposal.Other topics:Fixing Michigan Roads Fundhttps://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-9620_91685---,00.htmlCost of highway trust fund insolvencyhttps://www.enotrans.org/article/cbo-updates-10-year-cost-of-htf-solvency-to-176-billion/The myth that Michigan is a donor state and could draw more federal funds for roadshttp://on.freep.com/1D1F2XrUS Chamber pushes a federal infrastructure billhttps://www.ttnews.com/articles/infrastructure-bill-possible-trump-congressional-leadership-chamber-saysRegressive thinking: devolving highway funding to stateshttps://www.ttnews.com/articles/heritage-foundation-endorses-devolution-fund-highway-projects21st Century Infrastructure Commissionhttps://www.michigan.gov/documents/snyder/21st_Century_Infrastructure_Commission_Final_Report_1_544276_7.pdf
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Sep 26, 2019 • 43min

Jeff interviews Chad Livengood, senior editor at Crain’s Detroit Business.

On the latest edition of the Talking Michigan Transportation podcast, Jeff interviews Chad Livengood, senior editor at Crain’s Detroit Business.They talk about Chad’s in-depth reporting on transportation policy in Michigan and the decades-long struggle for funding to shore up roads and bridges and put the state on equal footing with our Great Lakes neighbors and the rest of the country. How this would be possible with Gov. Whitmer’s Fixing Michigan Roads Fund proposal.Fixing Michigan Roads Fund: https://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-9620_91685---,00.htmlOther topics include:— How Michigan lawmaker term limits, the nation’s most restrictive, stall progress on public policy, especially vital investment in infrastructure;Commentary: Want to fix roads? Start with the damn term limits: https://www.crainsdetroit.com/voices-chad-livengood/commentary-want-fix-roads-start-damn-term-limits— How land-use and transportation policies are intertwined, as Livengood observed in a June 9 story. From the story: Outer-ring suburban townships, which get no state direct aid for roads, approve residential housing sprawl — and then dump the cost of infrastructure onto cash-strapped counties;As outer-ring suburbs grow, they bring demands for road growth — how can we afford it? https://www.crainsdetroit.com/crains-forum/crains-forum-outer-ring-suburbs-grow-they-bring-demands-road-growth-how-can-we-affordAlternative road-funding methods that come and go.As Michigan highways deteriorate, should we consider toll roads? - mlive.comhttps://www.mlive.com/news/2010/02/road_toll_tax_use_fee_mainbar.html— The half-century struggle for a Regional Transit Authority (RTA) in Southeast Michigan to link the city of Detroit and surrounding counties as many metropolitan areas do, including many with lesser populations, across the country. For a story posted Sunday, Sept. 22, Chad features a broad selection of voices discussing it from myriad points of view across the region. He also explored the challenge of people making the decision about public transportation relating to those who actually use it, as summed up by Lt. Gov. Garlin Gilchrist: “If you've never been reliant on public transit, you don't understand the difference between waiting eight minutes for a bus and waiting 30 minutes. You don't understand what it means to have a baby stroller that you have to collapse to get on the bus. You don't understand how hard it is.”Revived push for RTA millage in SE Michigan: https://www.crainsdetroit.com/crains-forum/new-leadership-oakland-county-revived-push-get-transit-millage-ballot

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