

Hardscape Growth
Hardscaper
The Hardscape Growth podcast is back with a brand new season, and this time we're focusing on the Hardscaper High Five.
Hosted by Alex Cadieux from Techo-Bloc, this season will break down the five core values that every successful hardscaper needs to focus on. With a new framework and theme to help compartmentalize the information and make it easier to digest, listeners will learn from industry veterans who have been through the ups and downs, made mistakes, and achieved success.
Hosted by Alex Cadieux from Techo-Bloc, this season will break down the five core values that every successful hardscaper needs to focus on. With a new framework and theme to help compartmentalize the information and make it easier to digest, listeners will learn from industry veterans who have been through the ups and downs, made mistakes, and achieved success.
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Mar 23, 2022 • 56min
How Premier Outdoor Living plans out their projects
When it comes to landscaping, you can’t understate the importance of planning. From dumpster availability to material orders, being prepared pays ten-fold. To give their take on planning, working from a van, and staying organized as a small business, I invited Sean Collinsgru and Catherine Lippincott from Premier Outdoor Living, to sketch out their process for success.
In this episode, we discuss:
What led to the decision to create a fully administrative role and hire an industry outsider
Benefits of an outsider on the team
Their customer intake and design initiation processes
The importance of stopping the action to plan, to communicate, and to start growing the business intentionally
Tune in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Dec 14, 2021 • 56min
Social Media Strategy for Hardscapers w/ Vanessa Angell
A picture is worth a thousand words… That’s nice — but wouldn’t you prefer if it was a thousand leads? Well, it can be… if you step up your social media game. To help you do that, I invited social media maven Vanessa Angell, Owner at Social Media by Vanessa, to lay out a winning path to social success for hardscapers.
In this episode, we discuss:
The importance of images on social in this industry
How social media fits into — and ultimately shapes — the buyer's journey
The importance of engagement (and more than 3 words)
Tune in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Dec 7, 2021 • 38min
Hardscaper Showcase Preview Part 3
How often do you speak with your team throughout the course of a project? Sure, at the beginning of the day, everyone is on the same page… But if you’re not checking in, gradually the plans can start to drift apart. Today, I’m joined again by the team behind the Hardscaper Showcase Case Study Project: Tony Zambito, Brandon Taunton, Peter Wesholowski, and Tyler Walsh, who discuss the challenges and lessons that came with designing and building the feature-rich project that will be the focus of the 2022 Hardscaper Showcase and Summit events. We get into why being involved in this project was so important, some of the design considerations and how they impacted the build.
We discuss:
The difficulties that come with new tools and working in such a small space
What the team would do differently if they had to do it again
The importance of organization and communication to the success of any project
And be sure to register for these upcoming events here.

Nov 30, 2021 • 23min
Hardscaper Showcase Preview Part 2
Why design a six-figure hardscape with all the bells and whistles? It allows you to show what is possible — both for your customers and the industry. And once you see it in all its glory, you can’t unsee it. Today, I’m joined again by the team behind the Hardscaper Showcase Case Study Project: Tony Zambito, Brandon Taunton, Peter Wesholowski, and Tyler Walsh, who discuss what went into designing and building the feature-rich project that will be the focus of the 2022 Hardscaper Showcase and Summit events. We get into why being involved in this project was so important, some of the design considerations and how they impacted the build.
We discuss:
Why upsells can benefit you and your customer
The difference between a Hardscape builder and a creator of experiences
The feature-rich possibilities hiding within a tight, urban space
And be sure to register for these upcoming events here.

Nov 23, 2021 • 47min
Hardscaper Showcase Preview Part 1
No matter how good you are in your field, you don’t know everything. But that’s OK — it means there is always more to learn. And one of the best ways is by getting together with others and teaching each other. Today, I’m joined by the team behind the Hardscaper Showcase Case Study Project: Tony Zambito, Brandon Taunton, Peter Wesholowski, and Tyler Walsh, who are always excited to learn from others at Showcase — and certainly learned from one another taking on this challenging project.
In this episode, we discuss:
Why everyone can’t wait for the Hardscaper Showcase and Summit events
The importance of building relationships with others in your field
The design considerations that went into the project
And be sure to register for these upcoming events here. If you want to be the first to know about educational events coming up in your area, sign up for Hardscaper News.

Sep 14, 2021 • 1h 1min
Project Management: Staying Ahead of Material Shortages w/ Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore is the VP and COO at Carroll Landscaping Inc. and is responsible for operations, sales and project management. His belief is that leaders in all positions, be it owner, manager, project manager, foreman… exist to serve their teams. To facilitate their work. Therefore, a project manager facilitates the execution of a project. A big key to this? PROACTIVITY. He believes this role should aim to never be putting out fires, never be reactive. Over his 30+ year career in the industry, some basic actions have made his life easier. Relying on his well-worn clipboard, Kevin is an avid note-taker and list-maker.
In this episode, we asked this project management master how he stays ahead of the current challenges with material shortages. He answered the bell with some good, actionable tips from his own business.
Things we covered:
Daily game plan prepared the night before
Scheduled and consistent communication with teams
Transparency and empathy when setting expectations
Proactive approaches to purchasing materials
Importance of a strong network
If you want to be the first to know about educational events coming up in your area, sign up for Hardscaper News.

Sep 7, 2021 • 1h 1min
How to Fearlessly Tackle Material & Labor Shortages
Courtney Schild is the president of Dutch Barn Landscaping and Pools in New Lenox, IL. He acquired the company in 2018 after founding his own landscape company a few years earlier. He joined us on the show to talk about how he’s addressed the two biggest issues plaguing the industry today: material and labor shortages. For both, his solution has been simple. Be proactive. We started the conversation with how he goes about stocking inventory to supply his projects. How that has helps his operations run smoothly and what implications inventory and inventory management have on his business. We looked at the steps he took to build a plan and how he executes it. We ended the conversation talking about his approach to hiring, training and retaining people. He’s not afraid to get the best talent available, even if they don’t have industry experience, because he’s willing to invest time and resources into them. His belief: investing in them now will pay larger dividends later.
Referenced in this episode: Investing time in training your teams with tools like Hardscaper.com

Aug 31, 2021 • 1h 17min
Fit for the Job: Fitness & Nutrition in Hardscaping
Becky Fidler (@beckyfidlerfitness on Instagram) joins me on the show to talk about her journey in the hardscape industry and the role that fitness and nutrition play in the continuation of her career. Becky joined the hardscape industry in 2011 after deciding that desk jobs and low pay were not for her. She was seeking a career that would be more personally fulfilling and improve her ability to provide for her family. It’s no secret that the industry is a male-dominated one. It’s also one where, historically, brute strength and prior experience were absolute pre-requisites for the job. That’s what makes Becky’s story so special. In the beginning, she had never laid a paver and barely weighed more than some of the materials that she needed to handle. To say she wasn’t welcomed with open arms is an understatement. Her first weeks on the job were physically and mentally demanding as she tried her best but would feel like she was letting the crew down because she wasn’t good enough. Her lowest point may have been when she couldn’t even get a wheelbarrow up the ramp into the dumper and would need to wait for someone to help out. That’s when she doubled down. Committed to succeeding in the trade and being a valuable member of the team, she began to focus on physical fitness and nutrition. While working, she earned an Associate’s Degree as a Physical Fitness Specialist and became a Certified Personal Trainer, all with the intentions of becoming a better laborer on site. Today, Becky still finds herself on the job every day and helps with hiring and training of new team members. We wrap up the interview with helpful tips for improved mobility and health through proper stretching and dietary supplements.

Aug 24, 2021 • 37min
Building a Reputation as a Technician & Artist w/ Chad Quenneville
Chad Quenneville started Natural Design Landscapes in Cornwall, ON, ten years ago. Early on, a lot of the company’s work was small and lacking in creativity. Gradually, Chad started taking design chances, which led to greater satisfaction in his work and improved profits for his company. By elevating his company’s project “standards” he was able to attract a more discerning clientele that was willing to hire him for his expertise and his creativity. Another key lesson he learned in the process was to go the extra mile to make his clients happy. For example, he filled in the planting beds with quality topsoil, even if it wasn’t part of the original project scope or contract. Sometimes, those smaller details go a long way in building a reputation and earning quality testimonials and referrals, the latter being Chad’s only form of marketing.
In this episode, you’ll also hear about:
Shaking off the starving artist mentality
Doing cool stuff to gain referrals instead of advertising
Balancing larger corporate jobs with smaller artistic jobs
Building an amicable reputation among competitors
Chad’s million-dollar company has a phenomenal reputation and a strong relationship with their vendors, sub-contractors and other tradespeople. He may have grown his company backwards according to business wisdom, but his art speaks for itself.
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
Natural Design Landscapes is a certified Techo-Pro
Find photos of Chad’s work on Instagram
Find this interview and many more by subscribing to Hardscape Growth on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts, or on our website.
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Aug 17, 2021 • 1h 1min
Building a Better Company By Empowering Your Team w/ Matthew May
This recording is with our first returning guest on the show, Matt from Hardscape Ottawa. He was featured in our second episode released on Feb. 5. The conversation revolves around a book by L. David Marquet, a retired U.S. Navy Captain, called “Turn the Ship Around!” based on a true story of turning followers into leaders. Matt and I got on this topic as we have had many conversations over the years about building a better company through its people. Through a few stories, Matt walks us through the leadership ladder and the 3 C’s (Confidence, Control and Competency), and provides some practical advice on how to instill these principles within a team.
Follow Matt @hardscapeottawa on Instagram or visit his website at www.hardscapeottawa.com.
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