How Soccer Explains Leadership Podcast

In Episode 134, Marci Jobson, Co-Founder of Warrior Way and Warrior Way Gives, Former Baylor coach, former USWNT and professional footballer, wife of our very own, Paul Jobson, and mother of 4 boys, talks with Phil and Paul about how her passion and purpose are driving her in her ministry using soccer, growing up with 7 siblings, her path through club, HS, and college soccer to the USWNT and pro ranks to college coaching to parenting and ministry, partnering together with Paul on and off the field in different roles, uncommon bucket list item, which included a desert in the Middle East, that she was able to check off recently, keys to cross-cultural relationships, incorporating faith into playing and coaching, transactional vs. transformational coaching, how she coached both young girls and a pro men's team in Guatemala, and much more. Specifically, Marci discusses: · Her personal story, including how she grew his passion for soccer, leadership, ministry, and coaching, and her windy road to ministry with Warrior Way and Warrior Way Gives (5:29) · What she learned about herself and leadership working as a head coach, assistant coach, and unofficial consultant with Paul at Baylor (10:01) · What Paul is really like behind the scenes (19:15) · Her personal why/life purpose and how she is living it out in her life (21:54) · The work Warrior Way and Warrior Way Gives are doing in Waco and other parts of the world, including a few really cool stories about empowering girls and Marci coaching a men's team in Guatemala (25:01) · How to navigate cross-cultural relationships and partner together to help everyone flourish (36:12) · Her outreach with the US military in the Middle East and how she crossed off one of her bucket list items (43:43) · A defining moment in her soccer career and how it impacted her life and leadership (52:28) · Why the relational piece of coaching is so critical (57:33) · The best leader she played with and what set her apart from the rest (1:02:02) · The best coach she "played for" and what she learned from him (1:05:56) · How she has used lessons learned from soccer in her marriage and parenting (1:09:20) · Her recommendations (1:11:12) Resources and Links from this Episode · Uncut Video of the Episode · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Providence World (Donations to HSEL Podcast) · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training

In Episode 133, Kevin O'Brien, Head Coach of Lipscomb University and former College of Charleston and professional footballer, talks with Phil and Paul about what he learned from playing in college/professionally and coaching at multiple universities as assistant and head coach, how he is living out his personal mission, what it was like to coach the legend, Paul Jobson, why an appetite for learning and note taking are critical for a young coach, why the human element is just as important as licenses, strategy, recruiting, and tactics, a huge mistake he made and how it taught him the importance of authenticity, reverse mentorship, playing in freedom, the importance of being mom or dad (not coach) at home, why all great leaders have an big appetite to learn and develop, and much more. Specifically, Kevin discusses: · His personal story, including how he grew his passion for soccer, leadership, and coaching, and how he ended up coaching at Lipscomb University (3:23) · His personal why/life purpose and how he is living it out in his coaching and ministry (6:36) · The ultimate goal guiding him in his coaching (8:47) · What is was like to coach the legend, Paul Jobson, as a young assistant coach at Presbyterian College (11:55) · Advice for younger coaches from lessons he learned as a young coach working up the ranks (13:27) · How his time playing professionally with the Charlotte Eagles impacted him and taught him lessons about life and leadership (20:11) · How he partners with his wife in ministry and coaching, and why she has a unique vantage point that helps him in his coaching of women's soccer (23:39) · A defining moment in his soccer career and how it impacted his life and leadership (28:54) · How he uses the lessons learned in his defining moment to shape his coaching philosophy (34:31) · The best coaches he "played for" and what he learned from them (38:08) · His thoughts on the current state of youth soccer in the US (49:05) · How he has used lessons learned from soccer in his marriage and parenting (55:17) · His recommendations (1:03:26) Resources and Links from this Episode · Uncut Video of the Episode · Lipscomb University Women's Soccer · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Providence World (Donations to HSEL Podcast) · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training · All or Nothing: Arsenal · All or Nothing: Tottenham Hotspur · All or Nothing: Manchester City · Welcome to Wrexham · What Drives Winning · High Performance Podcast

In Episode 132, Shaun Smithson, Fellowship of Christian Athletes Executive VP of Club Sports, talks with Phil and Paul about how you can make disciples in different areas of your life, what he learned about life after calling for a time out in soccer, something you should never say to a referee, how he got into soccer ministry despite not playing the sport until the age of 21, what you can learn from his definition of "coach," why you might not want yourself or your children to have all of the desires of your hearts, why failure is a critical component of success, a life lesson Shaun learned through Jell-O Night, why you need to speak hard truths to your players, the emptiness of championships and titles, the importance of being where your boots are, and much more. Specifically, Shaun discusses: · His personal story, including how he grew his passion for soccer, leadership, coaching, and ministry, and how he ended up in his current position with Fellowship of Christian Athletes (5:56) · How he learned there are no time outs in soccer and what he gleaned from that experience (9:10) · His personal why/life purpose and how he is living it out in his coaching and ministry (14:38) · How he defines a "coach," and what we can learn from it (18:28) · His experience and growth in Bible studies (20:09) · How he is making disciples through his different areas of ministry with United Soccer Coaches, DC United, coaching, and other FCA opportunities (22:38) · A rabbit trail story about an important lesson Shaun learned while reading Psalm 20 to his wife in the hospital (26:24) · Why we have to be OK with failure (28:15) · A cool story about a lesson he learned from Bernhard Langer and shared with a team at the USYS Nationals about eternal perspective (31:33) · Defining moments in his life and how they impacted his life and leadership (37:56) · The importance of speaking truth to our players about their blind spots and things they need to work on to get better (42:53) · The best coach he "played for" and what he learned from him – includes a conversation about "Jell-O Night" (likely not what you're thinking) (46:01) · How he has used lessons learned from soccer in his marriage and parenting (51:22) · How he prioritizes his family in the midst of his ministry opportunities (54:55) · His recommendations (59:03) Resources and Links from this Episode · FCA Website · United Soccer Coaches Convention Registration · Shaun Smithson Email (for USC Faith-Based Committee information) · Uncut Video of the Episode · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Providence World (Donations to HSEL Podcast) · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training · Open: An Autobiography, Andre Agassi · The Coaching Zone: Next Level Leadership in Sports, John Yeager · Influence and the Creator's Game: My Story and Stories of Family, Faith, and Lacrosse, Frank Kelly III

In Episode 131, Daniel Russell, UA92 Apprenticeships & Bootcamps Engagement Manager, UK Director and Lead Scout for Daryse, Talent Scout for Liverpool FC, and former Professional Footballer, talks with Phil and Paul about how breaking both of his legs taught his tremendous life lessons and spurred him on to greater things in life, the incredible power of networking and just being polite, as it's not what you know, it's who you know, some inside information about what scouts are actually looking for in players, his defining moment in football and what it taught him, why it's critical to be selfish at times, how we ought not overpromise and underdeliver, and much more. Specifically, Daniel discusses: · His personal story, including how he grew his passion for soccer, leadership, and scouting, and how he got to be working with the Class of '92 and a Liverpool FC Scout (not a likely scenario) (5:47) · A funny story about how one of our previous guests tried to get Dan to play for his club (17:30) · The power of networking (20:27) · What scouts are actually looking for (26:08) · The Daryse scouting app and why parents, coaches, and players ought take a look at it (37:39) · Defining moments in his life and how they impacted his life and leadership (44:03) · His work with UA92 (52:21) · How he has used lessons learned from soccer in his parenting and other relationships (58:57) · His recommendations (1:05:25) Resources and Links from this Episode · Daryse App · UA92 Website · Uncut Video of the Episode · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training · "When Eagles Dare: Crystal Palace F.C." (Amazon Prime) · "All or Nothing: Arsenal" (Amazon Prime) · "All or Nothing: Tottenham" (Amazon Prime)

In Episode 130, our very own Paul Jobson, who now with Sports Recruiting USA after his retirement from coaching at Baylor Futbol, talks with Phil about how players, parents, and coaches can navigate the recruiting process with more excellence. Specifically, he covers: · How the recruiting process should be a fun "get-to" (2:00) · The parallels of the college recruiting process and job searches (4:25) · The coach's and assistant coach's perspective of the recruiting process 5:00) · How coaches filter through the thousands of emails they get throughout the year, and how to separate yourself from the multitudes (8:00) · Confirmation bias in coaches, how it affects the recruiting process, and what you can do to ensure you're on the right side of the bias (19:37) · The importance of treating every coach with respect and never burning any bridges during the recruiting process (25:20) · What should you do if a school you're not interested in is recruiting you? (29:07) · How can you know if a coach is actually interested vs. just trying to get you to go to a camp? (32:08) · Are camps worth the time and expense? (35:50) · A reminder that the recruiting process should be a highlight of your life (40:51) Resources and Links from this Episode · SRUSA Website · Don Williams HSEL Episode · Video of the Episode · HSEL YouTube Channel · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Providence World website · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training · Open: An Autobiography, by Andre Agassi

In Episode 129, Paul and Phil discuss their favorite moments and leadership nuggets from our incredible guests in the second half of Season 9 (Jonathan Van Horn, Peter Greer, Jeff Spencer, and Patrick Gilliam), Paul's new gig with SRUSA, the North American Sport Movement and Cup of Nations gatherings that Phil attended over the past couple months, some great books that Paul and Phil have read recently, and other topics that hopefully will help you be better in every area of your life. We are certain you will learn something and be challenged by this conversation. What were your favorite moments from Season 9? We'd love for you to share them in the comments! Resources and Links from this Episode · HSEL YouTube Channel · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Providence World website · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training · Steal Like an Artist: 10 Things Nobody Told You About Being Creative, by Austin Kleon · The Messiah Method: The Seven Disciplines of the Winningest College Soccer Program in America, Michael Zigarelli · Shift: The Athlete's Playbook – 5 Proven Steps to Life After Sport, Jonathan Van Horn · Pound the Stone: 7 Lessons to Develop Grit on the Way to Mastery, Joshua Medcalf

In Episode 128, Patrick Gilliam, Wheaton College Women's Soccer Head Coach, former college footballer, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about his "love, discipleship, multiplication" philosophy, why he loves coaching at the D-III level, why self-leadership is critical and what that looks like in his coaching, how he and his team engage conflict in a life-giving way that helps his team flourish, the importance of having a both/and program, how an injury changes his life, a great book that will help you and your teams flourish, how he incorporates his faith into his coaching, and much more. Specifically, Patrick discusses: · His personal story, including how he grew his passion for soccer, leadership, and coaching, and how he got to be where he is today (7:04) · His personal why/mission statement and how he is living it out (15:48) · The pros and cons, benefits and challenges of coaching at the Division III level (20:30) · What sets Wheaton apart from other soccer programs and educational institutions (26:36) · How he incorporates his faith into his coaching (30:57) · How he engages conflict in a healthy way with his team and why healthy conflict is critical to a team's success (39:34) · The coach who had he most impact on him and what we can learn from that great coach (48:34) · Defining moments in his life and how they impacted his life and leadership (53:11) · How he has used lessons learned from cycling and sports in his marriage and parenting (1:00:24) · His recommendation (1:04:20) Resources and Links from this Episode · Wheaton College Women's Soccer Website · Uncut Video of the Episode · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training · High Impact Teams: Where Healthy Meets High Performance, by Lance Witt · The Christian Athlete: Glorifying God in Sports, by Brian Smith · Leadership as an Identity: The Four Traits of Those Who Wield Lasting Influence, by Crawford Loritts

In Episode 127, Dr. Jeff Spencer, Olympic and Tour de France Cyclist, glassblower, chiropractor, Elite Performance Cornerman Coach who has helped athletes win over 40 gold medals and 8 Tour de France victories and, most importantly, a husband and father, talks with Paul and Phil about what he has learned from some incredible stories from his cycling career and other areas of his life, how cycling "chose him," how he is "calibrated to gold medals," how we can live a life well-lived, life lessons learned from the challenges experienced in connection with the adoption and parenting of his daughter, trusting the process, the concept of "receivership," the Champion's Blueprint, the "3 angels" who have deeply impacted his life, the differences in the mental game in individual vs. team sports, what he has learned about attributes of the greats from coaching Tiger Woods, Sir Richard Branson, U2 and Bono, Lance Armstrong, Maria Sharapova, Nike and Alberto Contador, and much more. Specifically, Jeff discusses: · His personal story, including how he grew his passion for cycling, leadership, and elite performance coaching, and how he got to be where he is today (2:44) · His path from a kid who liked riding a bike to being an Olympic Cyclist (6:12) · What was/is more difficult: a) the road to Olympic Cycling or b) adopting and raising his daughter? (8:03) · His personal why/mission statement and how he is living it out (11:21) · His thoughts on what it means to live a life well-lived (13:00) · What is a "calling" and how do you know what your calling is? (14:48) · Defining moments in his life and how they impacted his life and leadership (24:44) · Some of the great coaches he has worked with and what we can learn from those great coaches (33:52) · The differences in the mental game in team sports vs. individual sports (37:29) · The Anatomy of a Champion and what it looks like in the real world (41:46) · Some of the champions he has worked with and what separates the good from the great (51:13) · How he has used lessons learned from cycling and sports in his marriage and parenting (1:01:16) · What he learned from an act of humanity at the Tour de France (1:06:46) Resources and Links from this Episode · Jeff's Website · Uncut Video of the Episode · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training

In Episode 126, Peter Greer, President/CEO of HOPE International and former Messiah College footballer, talks with Paul and Phil about his path from Messiah College to alleviating poverty with Hope International, how he built in accountability to ensure that he puts his family first, why it is so important to be grateful for everything and entitled to nothing, some of the great lessons he learned from his coaches and teammates at Messiah, how he is using those lessons in his collaborative work with Hope, the need for us to be kind to referees (and why it matters), why we need more grace and less judgment in our sports and the rest of the world, team vs. individual, rooting for our rivals, not settling for mediocrity, and much more. Specifically, Peter discusses: · His personal story, including how he grew his passion for soccer and leadership, and how he got to be where he is today (4:13) · His work with HOPE Int'l and how HOPE is working to alleviate poverty around the world (7:14) · His personal why/mission statement and how he is living it out (11:13) · Why his wife has Peter's resignation letter from Hope Int'l and what he is doing to ensure she doesn't send it (13:45) · The Messiah Method and how Peter's experienced it and lived it out during his college years and beyond (17:47) · How he saw the Messiah program building toward the run of National Championships while he was playing there (22:38) · How he is using the lessons he learned at Messiah in his work with HOPE Int'l (26:13) · How he uses lessons learned from soccer in his collaborative projects around the world (33:01) · A couple soccer analogies that Peter uses in his life regularly (37:12) · Why we need more grace than judgment in our world – and yes, that includes with referees ; ) (40:37) · Defining moments in his life and how they impacted his life and leadership (44:55) · Some of the great coaches he has played for and a couple whose leadership stick out above the rest, and what he learned from those great coaches (50:17) · His thoughts on the current state of US Soccer, and what we can do about it (55:26) · How he has used lessons learned from sports in his marriage and parenting (1:01:31) · His podcast recommendation (1:03:30) Resources and Links from this Episode · HOPE International Website · Rooting for Rivals: How Collaboration and Generosity Increase the Impact of Leaders, Charities, and Churches, by Peter Greer · The Messiah Method: The Seven Disciplines of the Winningest College Soccer Program in America, by Michael Zigarelli · Uncut Video of the Episode · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training

In Episode 125, Jonathan Van Horn, Executive Director of Pro Soccer for Athletes in Action and former Ohio Wesleyan University footballer, talks with Paul and Phil about his multi-sport playing career and how it affected his thoughts on early specialization, what drives him, his book, Shift, and how he is using it to help athletes in their lives after sport, how he is using soccer in his ministry with AIA, how his defining moments and impactful coaches have shaped him, the importance of presence and consistency, and why it is important to fail early and fail often. Specifically, Jonathan discusses: · His personal story, including how he grew his passion for soccer and leadership, and how he got to be where he is today (3:37) · How he was a multiple-sport athlete and how he believes that impacted him in positive ways (9:20) · What he believes we are missing by focusing on early specialization (10:47) · His personal why/mission statement and how he is living it out (12:44) · Defining moments in his life and how they impacted his life and leadership (14:42) · How he is using soccer to share the Gospel and make disciples (23:10) · The power of a chaplain (31:12) · His book, Shift, why he wrote it, and how he hopes it will help people flourish in their lives after sport (33:20) · A couple of the steps for athletes to thrive in life after sport (39:09) · How we can train our kids and young athletes in these principles of life after sport before they are out of the sport (44:45) · The power of coaches to create safe environments where failure is encouraged for development (50:30) · Some of the great coaches he has played for and a couple whose leadership stick out above the rest, and what he learned from those great coaches (53:00) · His thoughts on the current state of US Soccer, and what we can do about it (56:49) · How he has used lessons learned from sports in his marriage and parenting (1:05:07) · His recommendations (1:06:43) Resources and Links from this Episode · Athletes in Action Website · Shift: The Athlete's Playbook: 5 Proven Steps to Life after Sport, by Jonathan Van Horn · The Shift Podcast · Uncut Video of the Episode · HSEL Facebook Group · Warrior Way Soccer · Coaching the Bigger Game Program · Phil's email for DISC Training · The Holy Bible · Mind Shift: It Doesn't Take a Genius to Think Like One, by Erwin McManus · Mind Shift with Erwin and Aaron McManus · The Way of the Warrior: An Ancient Path to Inner Peace, by Erwin McManus