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11:FS
Fintech Insider is your ultimate guide to the world of finance and fintech from 11:FS - the leading independent fintech consultancy, recognised five times with the British Bank Award for Consultancy of the Year.Our expert hosts, with real industry experience, are joined by the biggest decision-makers, VCs, and reporters from across financial services including Visa, Monzo, Nationwide, JPMorgan Chase, Wise, the Financial Times, and more to discuss breaking news and deep dive into the biggest topics and trends within the industry.Our weekly news show drops every Monday and tackles the biggest news stories across M&A, open banking, embedded finance, payments, regulation and more. Then, every Thursday our Insights show dives deeper into the hottest topics shaping the industry like AI, regulation, Big Tech, the cost of living crisis, and more. Whether you’re already immersed in the world of financial services, or just keen to learn more, this is the #1 podcast for you.Want to get involved in the conversation?Connect with us now on LinkedIn, Instagram and TikTok
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Apr 13, 2020 • 1h 6min
417. News: SoFi snaps up Galileo for $1.2b
Our expert hosts, David Brear and Simon Taylor, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Tanya Andreasyan, Managing Director and Editor-in-Chief at Fintech Futures
Izabella Kaminska, FT Alphaville Editor at the Financial Times
Olly Betts, Co-Founder and CEO, OpenWrks
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
SoFi buys Galileo for $1.2bn (03:17)
Kabbage suspends credit for small-business clients (11:21)
Banks struggle to keep up with tidal wave of business loan applications for covid relief (19:29)
New Banking Competition Remedies pool announced as Nationwide abandons business banking (27:40)
Fintechs take action to combat effects of coronavirus (34:54)
FCA allows selfies for identity checks (58:20)
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
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Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
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Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Izabella Kaminska, Olly Betts, and Tanya Andreasyan.Sponsored By:Links:
SoFi buys Galileo for $1.2bn
Kabbage suspends credit for small-business clients
Banks struggle to keep up with tidal wave of business loan applications for covid relief -
New Banking Competition Remedies pool announced as Nationwide abandons business banking
Fintechs take action to combat effects of coronavirus
FCA allows selfies for identity checks
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Apr 10, 2020 • 38min
416. Interviews: Varo Money - the first fintech to get FDIC approval
In today's episode, we bring you an interview with Wesley Wright, COO at Varo Money. Joining Sam Maule remotely, the pair kick things off with the story of how Varo Money came to be and how they aim to improve financial health and financial inclusion. Having now been approved for FDIC insurance, we hear about the process with regulators, why they decided to apply when other fintechs haven't, and what this means for the future of Varo Money and their ambitions. With our current environment, Sam and Wesley also touch on how to staying focused during a time of crisis, solving critical problems and the importance of listening to your customers at times of uncertainty.
Tune in for industry insights, a wealth of experience and much much more!
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
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Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guest: Wesley Wright.Sponsored By:
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Apr 6, 2020 • 1h
415. News: Major US banks protect employees as start-ups stall
Our expert hosts, David Brear and Eric Fulwiler, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Allison Esposito Medina - CEO and Founder of Tech Ladies
Jonah Crane - Partner at Klaros Group
Nonita Verma - East Coast Banking Partnerships Lead at Nova Credit
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
US banks promise not to lay-off workers during coronavirus pandemic (06:36)
Venture-backed start-ups may not be eligible for small-business stimulus (17:54)
Square and PayPal offer to extend stimulus payments to the unbanked (27:48)
Microsoft partners with Plaid on Excel finance tool (35:21)
Morgan Stanley’s trading portal suffers outage (43:53)
Marcus releases fixed-term savings bond (50:41)
Does this April Fools prank go too far? (53:51)
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Allison Esposito Medina , Jonah Crane, and Nonita Verma .Sponsored By:Links:
US banks promise not to lay-off workers during coronavirus pandemic
Venture-backed start-ups may not be eligible for small-business stimulus
Square and PayPal offer to extend stimulus payments to the unbanked
Microsoft partners with Plaid on Excel finance tool
Morgan Stanley’s trading portal suffers outage
Marcus releases fixed-term savings bond
Does this April Fools prank go too far?
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Apr 3, 2020 • 43min
414. Interviews: Nova Credit - scoring, covid crisis and celebrity funding
In today's episode, we bring you an interview with Nicky Goulimis, co-founder and COO at Nova Credit. Joining Sam Maule remotely, the pair kick things off with the company's origin story and how Nova Credit came to be. With no previous fintech experience, we hear about how Nicky and her co-founders were fueled by their credit troubles as international students in the US to create a solution for the underbanked from across the globe.
Now working to push systemic change across the industry, Sam and Nicky also touch on Nova Credit's high-profile endorsements, the pressures of coronavirus and how their recent $50 million funding round is helping them work towards a better future of credit and credit checks.
Tune in for industry insights, a wealth of experience and much much more!
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guest: Nicky Goulimis.Sponsored By:
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Mar 30, 2020 • 58min
413. News: Can fintech and bank collaborations help SMEs through coronavirus?
Our expert hosts, Sarah Kocianski and Leda Glyptis, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Carlo Gualandri, CEO and founder of Soldo
Myles Stephenson, CEO of Modulr
Keith Grose, Head of UK at Plaid
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
Interest rates slashed at home and abroad to combat the impact of coronavirus (03:36)
Contactless limits to rise by £15 (11:13)
Covid Credit comes together for the self-employed (19:05), featuring comment from 11:FS' Simon Taylor about how Covid Credit came to be.
SoftBank’s buying spree ends (27:38)
Revolut launches stateside (35:14)
Xinja draws investment from World Investments (42:33)
Bunq expands its Green Card to 30 countries (49:09)
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Carlo Gualandri, Keith Grose, and Myles Stephenson .Sponsored By:Links:
Interest rates slashed at home and abroad to combat the impact of coronavirus
Contactless limits to rise by £15
Covid Credit comes together for the self-employed
SoftBank to Sell $41 Billion in Assets, Signaling End of Buying Spree
Revolut launches in the US
Xinja draws investment from World Investments
Bunq expands its Green Card to 30 countries
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Mar 23, 2020 • 1h 12min
411. News: Coronavirus - central banks and regulators step in
Our expert hosts, David Brear and Jason Bates, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Alex Latham - CMO at Chip
Layla White - CEO of TechPassport
Charlotte Crosswell, CEO of Innovate Finance
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
Governments and regulators around the world react to coronavirus (03:55)
FCA releases coronavirus response (14:33)
Bank of England seeks input on digital currency (23:10)
FDIC approves Square loan charter (33:22)
Monzo enters the SME space (39:58)
A busy week at Revolut (50:15)
Nationwide to open early for vulnerable customers (1:03:11)
This podcast is brought to you by Stake, the digital brokerage app bringing you unrivalled access to the US market. Invest in over 3,500 US stocks and ETFs, including game-changing companies like Google, Amazon and Tesla. Trading is instant, direct and commission-free, and with a fully digitised sign-up, you’ll be in the market in minutes. Visit hellostake.com or search ‘Stake Trade’ to seize the US market’s 31 trillion dollars-worth of opportunity today.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Alex Latham, Charlotte Crosswell, and Layla White .Sponsored By:Hello Stake Links:
Governments and regulators around the world react to coronavirus
FCA releases coronavirus response
Bank of England seeks input on digital currency
FDIC approves Square loan charter
Monzo enters the SME space
A busy week at Revolut
Nationwide to open early for vulnerable customers
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Mar 20, 2020 • 1h 9min
410. After Dark 11 - Four fintech debates and a rant bucket
Recorded live in London, David Brear, Simon Taylor, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski all take the stage for After Dark 11. For our 11th instalment, we brought back all our favourite parts of our shows - news, insights and some fun and games!
After reminiscing about their favourite After Dark moments, David kicks off the debates with a news story about the continuing BCR saga as it turns out free money might come with consequences after all. (08:00) Handing over to Sarah, the next lively discussion was all about product-market fit. Following the news of N26 leaving the UK and JPMorgan Chase wanting to move in, what does product-market fit look like? (18:23)
Shaking things up a bit at half time, we brought back the Rant Bucket - a game first premiered at After Dark Atlanta. Each host pulls a topic out of a bowl and then has 1 min to give their best rant about the topic. (28:08)
Returning to our energetic debate, Simon takes the lead on a story about investment app outages and asks the question of whether the democratisation of investment is the right thing to do. (43:57) Rounding out the night, Leda talks numbers. Funding rounds and fintech valuations - but what does it all mean? (55:16) Tune in to this episode to find out!
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Sponsored By:
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Mar 16, 2020 • 59min
409. News: Banks react as coronavirus impacts global financial markets
Our expert hosts, Ross Gallagher and Sarah Kocianski, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Pranav Sood - VP Small Business at GoCardless
Valentina Kristensen, Director of Growth and Comms, OakNorth
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
RBS offers funding, and mortgage breaks to address coronavirus (01:44)
Standard Chartered names new Hong Kong virtual bank (10:20). Plus, we hear more on this from Mox CEO Deniz Guven. (15:52)
OakNorth Bank reports spike in pre-tax profits (18:05)
Xinja bars new customers after interest rates drop (29:09)
Revolut allegedly applying for UK bank licence (37:45)
Operations frozen at Yes Bank, co-founder arrested for alleged money laundering (42:39)
Starling to sponsor Team GB at the Tokyo Olympics (50:36)
This podcast is brought to you by Stake, the digital brokerage app bringing you unrivalled access to the US market. Invest in over 3,500 US stocks and ETFs, including game-changing companies like Google, Amazon and Tesla. Trading is instant, direct and commission-free, and with a fully digitised sign-up, you’ll be in the market in minutes. Visit hellostake.com or search ‘Stake Trade’ to seize the US market’s 31 trillion dollars-worth of opportunity today.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Deniz Guven, Pranav Sood, and Valentina Kristensen.Sponsored By:Hello Stake Links:
RBS offers funding, and mortgage breaks to address coronavirus
Standard Chartered names new Hong Kong virtual bank
OakNorth Bank reports spike in pre-tax profits
Xinja bars new customers after interest rates drop
Revolut allegedly applying for UK bank
Operations frozen at Yes Bank, co-founder arrested for alleged money laundering
Starling to sponsor Team GB at the Tokyo Olympics
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Mar 13, 2020 • 44min
408. Insights: Women in fintech: has anything changed?
With International Women’s Day having just passed, this episode is all about women in fintech. It's no secret that technology and financial services have a gender diversity problem, and in this Insights show, Sarah Kocianski alongside 3 accomplished women in fintech dive into how, and if, this is changing.
This week's guests are:
Charlotte Crosswell - CEO at Innovate Finance
Wincie Wong - Head of Rose Review Implementation at Natwest
Evelina Vrabie - CTO at Toucan
Why is diversity in fintech important? As we discuss in the show, there is strong evidence that diversity can improve the performance of organizations, particularly those relying on creativity and innovation. But what are the barriers to entry? STEM subjects have always been a gateway into tech and financial services careers and we talk about why the number of young women pursuing these subjects has only seen marginal changes.
And finally, we talk about how far we have come over the years. What's changed? What has remained the same? And what is the future of gender diversity in fintech?
This podcast is brought to you by Stake, the digital brokerage app bringing you unrivalled access to the US market. Invest in over 3,500 US stocks and ETFs, including game-changing companies like Google, Amazon and Tesla. Trading is instant, direct and commission-free, and with a fully digitised sign-up, you’ll be in the market in minutes. Visit hellostake.com or search ‘Stake Trade’ to seize the US market’s 31 trillion dollars-worth of opportunity today.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Charlotte Crosswell, Evelina Vrabie, and Wincie Wong.Sponsored By:Hello Stake
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Mar 9, 2020 • 1h 4min
407. News: Robinhood’s major outage; BCR backlash builds
In this week's episode, Ross Gallagher and Sarah Kocianski are on hosting duties and are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Farhana Draine - Head of Legal and ComplianceFlux
Husayn Kassai - CEO, Onfido
Edward Berks - Global EGM of Financial Partnerships, Xero
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
Robinhood faces outage as the Dow surges (02:15)
BCR backlash mounts over Metro Bank and Nationwide (10:29)
Thought Machine plans US expansion after $83-million raise (20:24)
World Health Organisation calls for contactless amidst Coronavirus (28:21)
Klarna posts first-ever deficit as buy now pay later grows (36:51)
Greenpeace blockades Barclays branches (46:56)
Payments boss pays his entire staff a $70k minimum salary (53:08)
This podcast is brought to you by Stake, the digital brokerage app bringing you unrivalled access to the US market. Invest in over 3,500 US stocks and ETFs, including game-changing companies like Google, Amazon and Tesla. Trading is instant, direct and commission-free, and with a fully digitised sign-up, you’ll be in the market in minutes. Visit hellostake.com or search ‘Stake Trade’ to seize the US market’s 31 trillion dollars-worth of opportunity today.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Edward Berks, Farhana Draine, and Husayn Kassai.Sponsored By:Hello Stake Links:
Robinhood faces outage as the Dow surges
BCR backlash mounts over Metro, Nationwide
Thought Machine plans US expansion after $83-million raise
World Health Organisation calls for contactless amidst Coronavirus
Klarna posts first-ever deficit as buy now pay later grows
Greenpeace blockades Barclays branches
Payments boss pays his entire staff a $70k minimum salary
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