

Design Details
Brian Lovin, Marshall Bock
A weekly conversation about design process and culture. Hosted by Marshall Bock and Brian Lovin.
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May 4, 2015 • 1h 7min
22: Poor Man's Pokemon (feat. Cennydd Bowles)
This week we caught up with Cennydd Bowles over Skype for a truly fascinating discussion about cross-OS design, the future of wearables, what it means to be a junior vs. senior designer, and why sound design will be the next big trend.
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Sponsors:
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Code School - Learn to code from the comfort of your browser
Video: Unmasking HTML Emails
Cennydd on the Web:
Twitter
Website
A List Apart articles
Undercover User Experience Design (The Book)
The Pastry Box Project writing
The Ethical Designer - Talk
Show Notes:
5:00 - What are you working on these days? How did you get started at Twitter?
@cennydd
Tweetdeck
16:00 - We talk mobile design, Windows and the OS landscape.
Windows 10 can run iOS and Android
Outlook for iOS
27:00 - Cennydd has more experience with wearables than most.
Samsung Gear S
Moto 360
Apple Watch
LG G Watch
36:00 - What are your hunches about the future of design for wearables?
Dragon Ball Z Revival of F
Oculus
39:00 - Cennydd shares his thoughts on the toxic MVP.
"Delighted that ‘MVP’ is starting to be seen as toxic."
4 Reasons MVPs Fail
Minimum Lovable Product
The Ethical Designer - Talk
48:00 - Thoughts on the process of creation and iteration, junior vs. senior designers.
Letter to a Junior Designer

Apr 29, 2015 • 1h 14min
21: Startup Lubricant (feat. Bin Chen)
This episode, we talked tea with Boba Guys and Tea People co-founder Bin Chen! He's had one of the most unique design careers we've ever heard of and he tells a really great story - which made this episode especially fun for us. Hopefully, you'll dig it too!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
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Iconfinder's Definitive Guide to Apple Watch Icons
Bin on the Web
Twitter
You Might Find Yourself
Boba Guys
Tea People
Show Notes:
3:30 - Beer!
Muscat Oolong
Black Sands Brewery
5:00 - What are you working on?
Timbuk2
Tea People
Andrew Chau
Boba Guys Blend #1
Ken Ken Ramen
Mission Mission
Biddenly
Ajay Nainani
Biddenly Kickstarter
15:30 - Tea People and Boba Guys' Culture
Horchata
Boiling frog
Patagonia
Kaizen
Yvon Chouinard
Sheryl Swoopes
Boba Guys Nashville Pop-up
The Buffer Culture
Myers-Briggs Personality Test
26:30 - Differences between digital design and brick and mortar
Square
Net Promoter Score
Twilio
Twitch
Pure Milk Tea
Sprig
the Boba Guys branding & aardvark
Blue Bottle Coffee
Ritual Coffee
Four Barrel Coffee
boba straws
LLAP emoji
37:00 - How Bin got into design...
Aqua-zyme
Realmedia
Adobe Premiere 1.0
Adobe ColdFusion
Adobe Dreamweaver
McCann-Erickson
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift
Foot pedal for toilets
Google Patent Search
Vimeo
Ben Brown
Michael Eisner
John C. Jay
John Jay College of Criminal Justice
Wieden & Kennedy
53:00 - Generalism vs Specialty
59:00 - Managing vs Individual Contribution
John Maeda
Kleiner Perkins Caulfield & Byers
Beautiful Soup
Square Kitchen Tickets
1:07:00 - Scaling in digital vs physical space
Shyp
ShipStation
Alite

Apr 27, 2015 • 1h 1min
20: Soft Computer Hands (feat. Dustin Senos)
This week we caught up with Dustin Senos, the lead designer at Medium for the past 3 years who has spent his professional career traversing the worlds of design and engineering. We dig into Dustin's background and how design has shaped Medium into the product it is today.
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Sponsor:
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Dustin on the Web:
Twitter
Medium
Dribbble
Instagram
Show Notes:
2:00 - Dustin tells us about his transitions between engineering and design.
Acro Media
LittleIpsum
7:00 - Should designers code?
Flinto
Framer
Balsamiq
11:00 - How did you end up at Medium?
@ev
Medium
Obvious
17:00 - How was Medium approached as a design challenge?
The hyphen, n-dash and em-dash
21:00 - How would you describe the aesthetic of Medium today? How did the agency work shape that aesthetic?
Teehan+Lax
@dannpetty
Teehan+Lax Medium case study
30:00 - We chat about the culture at Medium and their experience with holacracy
How Medium is Building a New Kind of Company with No Managers
Holacracy
Evan Williams on Building a Mindful Company
Buffer's no-managers setup
43:00 - We diverge into a chat about diversity in design.
Design Details Ep. 13 with Mo Woods
45:00 - How did you approach hiring at Medium?
How to Impress an Interviewer by Julie Zhuo
Calm

Apr 22, 2015 • 52min
19: Super-Dinky Hodinkee (feat. Caleb Davenport and Jake Marsh)
This episode, we dug into our concerns after all the Apple Watch reviews came out with a couple of our favorite iOS developers: Caleb Davenport and Jake Marsh. This episode was completely ridiculous and fun (even moreso if you caught the Periscope livestream featuring the inimitable Marc Hemeon). We discuss the models that each of us pre-ordered as well as Amazon Dash and our most-hoped-for features of the Apple Watch when it finally comes out!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsor:
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Caleb on the Web:
Twitter
North Technologies
Jake on the Web:
Twitter
Deallocated Objects
4:00 - We discuss the Apple Watch pre-orders
"The Marco Special"
Marc Hemeon
Kevin Rose
Watchville
Hodinkee
Caleb's Nomos Glashütte
Bryn's Rado
"Complications"
Grande Sonnerie
9:00 - California vs Not California
Khoi's episode
Cap's episode
Om Malik
Sam Soffes
Jared Erondu & his donuts
Bonus Apple Watch episode with Sam Soffes
13:00 - Technical Difficulties of the Apple Watch
Transit for Apple Watch
ShopSavvy
"Bono/Tim Cook Finger Thing"
The Sweet Solution
"Underscore" David Smith
David Smith's Watch Apps
21:00 - Amazon Dash
Poppy by Quirky
23:30 - ...aaaaaand back to the Watch
Louie Mantia
Mickey's foot is wrong
Jake's TMNT blog post
David Wise

Apr 20, 2015 • 1h 18min
18: Kleenex Testers (feat. Stone Librande)
This week we broke up our regular string of web designer guests to chat with Stone Librande, lead designer at Riot Games. Stone was also the lead designer of Diablo 3, SimCity and Spore; he's an incredibly talented creator who shared so much insight with us on this episode of Design Details!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Sponsors:
IconFinder - Promo code 'ROBOT' for 50% off your first month of Iconfinder Pro!
500,000 Icons and why the Number Matters
InVision
Stone on the Web:
Twitter
Wikipedia
Website
Stone's GDC 2015 Talk
Show Notes:
6:00 - We catch up with Stone on his current work as a game designer.
Riot Games
Stone's GDC 2015 Talk
9:00 - Stone shares his journey to becoming a game designer.
Blizzard North
20:00 - Stone shares some of the more specific challenges he's faces as a game designer.
Spore
Diablo 3
Minecraft
24:00 - You also build lots of physical games?
Fridge Game
Fridge Game GIF
Stone's other games
28:00 - What has been your favorite game to design?
SimCity
Atomic Design
54:00 - Stone talks about the games he's enjoying at the moment.
FTL
Rogue Legacy
Candy Crush (App Store)
57:00 - How do feel about the broader trend of DLC and in-app purchases?
Tap Titans (App Store)
Bitcoin Billionaire (App Store)
Fez
1:07:00 - Stone shares his thoughts on virtual reality and augmented realitigy games.
HoloLens
Oculus
Recon snowboard goggles
Mini Cooper Goggles

Apr 15, 2015 • 1h 24min
17: Ptotes Pterodactyl (feat. Divya Manian & Bradee Evans)
This week we hung out with Divya Manian and Bradee Evans from the Photoshop team at Adobe. This was a really, really fun episode to record and Divya and Bradee were amazing guests. We got to talk about everything from important issues around diversity to just making dumb jokes about pterodactyls and unicorns. We hope you enjoy it half as much as we enjoyed recording it.
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Divya on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Bradee on the Web:
Twitter
Dribbble
Medium
Behance
Show Notes:
2:00 - Bradee's Second Career & Explicit Ratings for Podcasts
SoundCloud
Simplecast
Josh Long
"The Other Guy" aka Jon Buda
4:00 - What's up with female representation in tech?
Feminista Jones on NPR
Impostor Syndrome
7:30 - Making mistakes in big products
UserTesting.com
"Error Bad"
Stateful Design
16:00 - "Uncle Photoshop"
Marc Edwards
20:00 - What's it like working on Photoshop?
"The Humans are Dead" by Flight of the Conchords
27:00 - Working on Web Standards
How to Spot a Web Designer GIF
Divya's Talks
Arno Gourdol
Rocky Offner
38:00 - Sketch's effect on how Photoshop is built
Jeff Broderick
Tim Riot
55:00 - Why diversity is important for creativity
"How Diversity Makes us Smarter" - The Scientific American
58:00 - Art vs Design
Twitter Conversation
59:30 - Maintaining confidence when putting out an important tool to a large audience
Aligned Pixels, Ink.
"Did somebody call an excavation expert?"
1:03:30 - Quirks: Sketch vs Photoshop
Seth Clifford
1:11:30 - Running out of keyboard shortcuts and the move from hardware to software
Touch screens with textures
Avi Cieplinski
1:15:00 - Magic UI
Amazon Dash
Trying to edit money in Adobe products
Photoshop Enhance Demo

Apr 13, 2015 • 1h 7min
16: Extravagant Shallowness (feat. Khoi Vinh)
This week we caught up with Khoi Vinh, an insightful and talented designer making Wildcard in New York City. In this Skype chat we talked about designing for the tablet, honesty on the web and how Khoi manages to maintain so many projects!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Sponsors:
IconFinder - Promo code 'ROBOT' for 50% off your first month of Iconfinder Pro!
InVision
Khoi on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Wildcard
How They Got There
Dribbble
Instagram
Show Notes:
5:00 - We catch up with Khoi and chat about his current project, Wildcard.
Wildcard
Jordan Cooper
Doug Petkanics
Eric Tang
Stephen Meszaros
9:00 - Khoi tells us more about the specifics of designing at Wildcard, including why cards are the future of the web.
What is a card?
Cards are the future of the web
15:00 - How have you become such a prolific design writer?
subtraction.com
Khoi's book, How They Got There
Ordering Disorder: Grid Principles for Web Design
How She Got There: Erika Hall
20:00 - We learn a bit more about the process behind How They Got There.
How They Got There
26:00 - Khoi's also busy on other side projects and explorations - we learn more.
Mixel
Adobe Comp CC
32:00 - What are the possibilities for tablets that are still untapped?
Paper
37:00 - We chat about what it means to be honest on the web.
@khoi
Look and Feel and Feel
47:00 - Khoi tells us about how he shares content and thinks about having a large following on Twitter.
Buffer
54:00 - What were your responsibilities while designing for the New York Times?
nytimes.com
A Farewell to the Times
1:00:00 - We dig in more to Khoi's journey since leaving the Times.
Kidpost

Apr 8, 2015 • 1h 3min
15: Her Left Me (feat. Jeremy Goldberg and George Kedenburg)
This is our first time to have a second episode scheduled for the week! We're excited to try out this new format, kicking things off with two guests: Jeremy Goldberg and George Kedenburg. We chat about design at Facebook, their journeys as designers and how they're growing within such a large organization!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Jeremy on the Web:
Twitter
Dribbble
Website
George on the Web:
Twitter
Dribbble
Website
Show Notes:
1:00 - A beautiful story of a Periscope party.
Periscope
Meerkat
Personal Sam
5:00 - We catch up on the announcements at F8 and what's coming with 3rd party apps.
Facebook Messenger
Messenger Platform
Messenger for Business
Path Talk
Vivian Wang
8:00 - What is the design process like for a product with 600 million users?
"Get real time shipping updates on your phone. Send to Messenger."
15:00 - So React Native is a thing!
React Native
Parse
Parse for IoT
18:00 - George shares what it's like to work at Parse, a startup-like culture within Facebook.
Facebook Camera
22:00 - Facebook just moved into a new office!
New FB Campus announcement
Photos of the new Campus
Instagram Campus campaign
Frank Gehry
27:00 - Jared and George share some of their personal stories with us.
@ageofjeremy
@nlevin
36:00 - George chat with Terry Crews on Twitter...
The conversation
@maxvoltar
Sketch Beta
45:00 - Do you worry about feature bloat in Messenger?
The giant Like button
Facebook Sound Design
More about Facebook's sounds
51:00 - Jeremy shares his experiences with designing interactions and animations at Google.
Origami
After Effects
Framer
Framer + Parse
55:00 - How are you pushing yourself to be a better designer every day?

Apr 6, 2015 • 1h 21min
14: Unless You're Dumb (feat. Jared Erondu)
This week we hung out with Jared Erondu, a designer well-known for his work at Lift, Omada Health, The Industry and his current role as Creative Director at Teespring. We covered a lot of ground – from the future of user interfaces to donuts to whether or not “UX designer” should be a job title anymore!
This was a great conversation and, for the first time ever, we have another one coming on Thursday where we discuss the announcements from the F8 conference with Facebook designers Jeremy Goldberg and George Kedenburg!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Sponsors:
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Invision
Jared on the Web
Website
Twitter
Teespring
Dribbble
Instagram
Show Notes:
4:00 - We catch up with Jared and the latest projects he's working on!
Teespring
Jared's Personal Site
Jared's photos
Elle Luna
Bulan Project
The Crossroads of Should and Must
Elle's Book
Picture from the helicopter ride
Josh Sortino
Christophe Tauziet
Transamerica Redwood Park
10:00 - Jared tells us about his journey of becoming a designer.
Treehouse
Ryan Carson
Chris Coyier
Future of Web
Evomail
Circa
Zite
Mark Johnson
Zerply
Christofer Karltorp
Flud
Bobby Ghoshal
Drew Wilson
Valiocon
20:00 - How did The Industry become so popular?
The Industry
Adam Stacoviak
13 Design Trends For 2013 by Gannon Burgett
Jared's Svbtle blog
Go Home iOS7, You're Drunk.
31:00 - What do you think of Apple's first-party apps?
Twitter Conversation
32:00 - We talk about designers getting a seat at the table.
Medium is changing content
DesignerFund
KPCB
Her
Apple "Evolution" image
Moto Hint
Earin
Dash
Postmates
Jeremy
42:00 - What was it like moving from the East Coast to San Francisco?
Coming To America
Omada Health
Poppy Coffee Maker
History of Espresso
Amazon Dash
50:00 - We dig a bit deeper into some of Jared's previous roles in design
Bridge
Prevent
Cool obesity chart
FitBit Aria
Obvious
Lift(now Coach.me)
Medium
Ev Williams
Tony Stubblebine
1:00:00 - Donuts!
MMMM Donuts!
Episode 4
1:05:00 - Jared talks about a secret agenda...
Wake
1:11:00 - What does it mean to be a creative director?
Dann Petty
"The Creative's Mix" on Rdio

Mar 30, 2015 • 1h 21min
13: Eating Horse (feat. Maurice Woods)
We had an amazing conversation this week with Maurice "Mo" Woods, a senior visual designer at Yahoo and founder of the Inneract Project. We chat about what he's doing in design education, diversity in design and how his background as a pro basketball player has served him in his career as a designer.
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Sponsors:
Iconfinder (use promo code 'ROBOT' for 50% off your first month!)
InVision
Mo on the Web:
Twitter
AIGA Profile
Mo's HOW Interview
Inneract Project Founder
Inneract Project
LinkedIn
Show Notes:
14:00 - We learn more about Mo's interest in design education for kids.
Inneract Project
20:00 - Mo gets into the details of what's going on at Inneract and why it's so important.
Teach a class at Inneract
Volunteer
Donate
37:00 - Want to help with the Inneract Project? They need your help.
Like Inneract Project on Facebook
Follow Inneract Project on Twitter
Get Involved
Teach a class at Inneract
Volunteer
Donate
57:00 - The real reason design is so important for kids in underserved communities.
Kristy Tillman
Design Details with Kristy Tillman
1:03:00 - We chat about diversity in design, tech and the hiring process.
Mo on LinkedIn
1:12:00 - Where are all the designers of color?
Guthrie Dolin on LinkedIn
Diversity at Google
Diversity at Apple
Diversity at Facebook


