

Design Details
Brian Lovin, Marshall Bock
A weekly conversation about design process and culture. Hosted by Marshall Bock and Brian Lovin.
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Jul 13, 2015 • 1h 14min
42: Lonely T-Rex (feat. Sebastien Gabriel and Jean-Marc Denis)
This week we finally caught up with our friends at Google, Jean-Marc Denis and Sebastien Gabriel. In this episode we chat Material Design, designing invisible interfaces, current design tools and moving from France to the US.
Last week we also announced Spec, a new podcast network for designers and developers! We hope you'll check it out and follow @specfm on Twitter for new shows and updates!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Dropbox
Iconfinder - use the promo code 'ROBOT' to save 50% off your first month of Iconfinder Pro
Sebastien on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Dribbble
Instagram
VSCO
Jean-Marc on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Dribbble
Medium
Instagram
Sketch Design
Show Notes:
5:00 - What are you working on?
Chrome
Google Cardboard
Glen Murphy
Google Inbox
14:00 - We chat about designing interfaces.
Sebastien on Dribbble
Redesigning Chrome for Android
Google Design
Kennedy Project
Marshall Bock
Design Details 41: Heart For You (feat. Marshall Bock and Michael Schultz)
Material Design Lite
MDL Components
35:00 - What design tools do you use?
Sketch
Meng To
Ben De Cock
Design Details 36: 10x (feat. Meng To)
Sketch Beta
Tim Van Damme
Design Details 10: Tiny Nuggets of Delight (feat. Tim Van Damme)
Maya
Material Design Jobs
46:00 - On designing error pages.
Chrome T-Rex
52:00 - We dig into Jean-Marc and Sebastien's backgrounds.
Roxane Clediere
How I Joined Google
Material Design Colors
Design Details 41: Heart For You (feat. Marshall Bock and Michael Schultz)
Exportify
Rdio
Apple Music
Google Cardboard
Oculus
People Over Heroes

Jul 8, 2015 • 1h 28min
41: Heart For You (feat. Marshall Bock and Michael Schultz)
It's been a week since Apple Music launched giving us the perfect reason to have a round-table discussion about the new app with Marshall Bock and Michael Schultz. We bounce around this episode sharing our thoughts on Apple Music and streaming services in general - we hope you have fun listening!
You all got us nominated for Podcast of the Year at The Net Awards! If you can spare the time, we would very much appreciate if you would vote for us, or share the show with a friend!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Dropbox
Adobe (and check out What's New in CC 2015!)
Marshall on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Dribbble
Instagram
Blog
Michael on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Medium
Instagram
Dribbble
Iodine
Show Notes:
5:00 - So Apple Music came out...
Apple Music
Beats 1
Rdio
Spotify
Steve Jobs: People Don't Want Music Subscriptions
Steve Jobs Official Trailer
Sorkinisms
Exportify
Mvsic
The Kollection
2007 WWDC Keynote
Mr. Robot
Polygon on YouTube Gaming

Jul 6, 2015 • 1h 10min
40: Ace of Bass (feat. Gabe Valdivia and Kyle Ryan)
Today we sat down with Gabe Valdivia and Kyle Ryan to talk about design at Facebook, the progress of their side project, Peek, and the value of obviousness in design.
You all got us nominated for Podcast of the Year at The Net Awards! If you can spare the time, we would very much appreciate if you would vote for us, or share the show with a friend!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Iconfinder - use the promo code 'ROBOT' to save 50% off your first month of Iconfinder Pro
Dropbox
Gabe on the Web:
Twitter
Dribbble
Website
Peek
Episode 5 of Design Details
Kyle on the Web:
Twitter
Show Notes:
4:00 - What are you working on?
Peek
20:00 - We dig more into Peek
Ello
Ello iOS
Facefeed
Design Details with Allison House
48:00 - How do you recruit an engineer to help you build a project?
Modern Design Tools: Using Real Data
Josh Puckett
Origami
That car startup
Cat Chat

Jul 1, 2015 • 1h 19min
39: YoTube (feat. Mike Essl)
On this episode we caught up with Mike Essl: designer, artist, Mr. T memorabilia collector. We talk about Mike's personal story as a designer, Cooper Union, and yes, we chat comics.
You all got us nominated for Podcast of the Year at The Net Awards! If you can spare the time, we would very much appreciate if you would vote for us, or share the show with a friend!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Dropbox
Mike Essl on the Web:
Twitter
Dribbble
Website
Cooper Union
Show Notes:
2:30 - What are you working on right now?
DC Comics
Mule Design
nerduo
Robb Irrgang
The Battle
80sTees
1.21 jiggawatts
5:00 - F'ing Sandman
The Annotated Sandman Vol. 1
The Annotated Sandman Vol. 2
The Annotated Sandman Vol. 3
DC Comics Action Figure Archive
8:00 - Essl shares his other projects
And I'm a PC
App for That
Mat Honan
Jason Kottke
14:00 - How do you balance your time with all these projects?
The Cooper Union
22:00 - Why did you ignore everone's advice to not go to art school?
Mike Monteiro
Erika Hall on Design Details
Graphic Design by Milton Glaser
41:00 - Mike's dream work
Watching the Watchmen
Issues Podcast
The eBay Promo video
Mr. T and Me
1:06:00 - What are you taking back from San Francisco?
Jeffrey Zeldman
1:10:00 - What's the difference between design and art?
Is Graphic Design Art?
Jenny Holzer

Jun 29, 2015 • 1h 9min
38: Electronic Parties (feat. Geoff Teehan)
For episode 38, we were joined by Geoff Teehan, a super-talented Canadian designer who is at least partially responsible for several of our favorite products. He has not only worked on some amazing projects for companies like Medium, Google, and now Facebook - he has also built some really great resources for designers.
You all got us nominated for Podcast of the Year at The Net Awards! If you can spare the time, we would very much appreciate if you would vote for us, or share the show with a friend!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Iconfinder - Use promo code 'ROBOT' for 50% off your first month of Iconfinder Pro!
Adobe (and check out What's New in CC 2015!)
Geoff Teehan on the Web:
Twitter
Medium
Dribbble
Show Notes:
3:50 - What are you working on?
Teehan + Lax
6:20 - How do you see the trend of designers moving from small agencies to product companies?
10:00 - Getting work and creating products as an agency
Medium case study
Hyperlapse
Jon Lax
The Dog Conference
Prismatic case study
Dann Petty
Dustin Senos
Leigh Taylor
Ev Goldberg
Obvious Corp.
T+L Labs
Bags of milk
D.I.G.I.T.
Touch Vision
ASCII Street View
iOS GUI Templates
Digg
Amazon AWS
Rackspace
"The Photo"
Finn O'Hara
Tyler Howarth
40:00 - How did you get into design?
CorelDRAW
ModaMedia
50:00 - Talking about the Apple Watch... again.
58:00 - Why Facebook?

Jun 24, 2015 • 56min
37: Crisper Articulation (feat. Julie Zhuo)
For episode 37, we were lucky enough to get to spend some time with Julie Zhuo! We're both huge fans of her writing on Medium and the way she thinks about design and especially that she shares that with the entire community.
Speaking of sharing with the community, you all got us nominated for Podcast of the Year at The Net Awards! If you can spare the time, we would very much appreciate if you would vote for us, or share the show with a friend!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Dropbox
imgix
Julie Zhuo on the Web:
Website
Twitter
Medium
Show Notes:
3:50 - What are you working on?
Cap Watkins
DD27: Socialist Design (feat. Cap Watkins & Kim Bost)
9:15 - What have been the hardest parts of scaling a design team?
MPK20
14:50 - The Year of the Looking Glass
The Year of the Looking Glass on Medium
How to Be That Designer
The Imposter Syndrome
Sheryl Sandberg
Lean In
22:00 - What keeps you excited about working at Facebook?
Mark Zuckerberg
Internet.org
24:30 - How is design perceived inside Facebook?
HHVM
36:30 - How are products designed at Facebook?
Creativity, Inc.
Ed Catmull
Whatever's Best for the People, That's What We'll Do
Mike Matas
Facebook Lite
51:00 - What do you want to do next?
Oculus Rift

Jun 22, 2015 • 1h 9min
36: 10x (feat. Meng To)
For episode 36, we got to spend some time with Meng To discussing what makes a great product, how to get started with design and development, and what it takes to build a thing. Meng's an incredibly talented creator and we're grateful he was able to take a break from helping people get started in our industry to hang out with us for an hour or so!
In case you haven't noticed, we were nominated for Podcast of the Year at The Net Awards! There's about 2 weeks left and we would love it if you'd take a minute to vote for us!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Adobe (and check out What's New in CC 2015!)
Iconfinder
Meng To on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Blog
Medium
Dribbble
Show Notes:
4:00 - What Meng's working on
Shadowness
The Matrix
StarCraft
9:30 - What are you excited about in design?
Sketch
Invision
Pixate
Slack
Design + Code
Xcode
Swift
15:00 - Should designers write production code?
Macaw
Dreamweaver
Framer
AngularJS
MeteorJS
NodeJS
Codecademy
Material Design
Snapchat
24:30 - Creating free content vs paid content
Spring library
Apple Watch GUI
32:00 - WWDC expectations
UXKit rumors
35:00 - Global differences in design/dev culture
Alipay
40:30 - Learning development and gaming as a gateway to the tech industry
udemy
Super Smash Bros.
SoundBlaster 16 for Windows 3.11
DOTA
Warcraft III
Heroes of the Storm
World of Warcraft
Hearthstone
Wilson Miner
DD 3: I'm Tired of Looking at Apps (feat. Wilson Miner)
Stone Librande
DD 12: Kleenex Testers (feat. Stone Librande)
50:30 - The elements of a really compelling product
Marc Edwards
Bjango Actions
sketch-measure
Zeplin
55:00 - Don't give up. Just do something crazy.

Jun 17, 2015 • 1h 4min
35: Senate Design Overcommittee (feat. Noah Stokes)
For episode 35, we finally convinced the Motherfuton himself, Mr. Noah Stokes, to come hang with us for a bit and talk about lazy web design, ornamentation vs utility, design education and so much more. It was super fun to pick his brain for an hour or so and he brought up some frequently overlooked shortcomings of how we build the web today.
In case you haven't noticed, we were nominated for Podcast of the Year at The Net Awards! If you can spare the time, we would very much appreciate a vote!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsors:
Adobe
Dropbox
Noah Stokes on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Blog
Dribbble
Show Notes:
4:30 - What Noah's working on
Creative Market
AutoDesk
AutoCAD
6:30 - Moving from client services to an in-house design team
"End of An Era"
Happy Cog
Teehan+Lax
BOLD
Garrett St. John
Derek Nelson
Zach McNair
Weightshift
Paravel
SuperFriendly
Bigge cranes
16:45 - Life before BOLD and how Apple has changed
PalmOne LifeDrive
Palm Treo
iPod Mini
17" PowerBook
Apple's WWDC 2015 Keynote
1Password
How to Pronounce Helvetica Neue
28:15 - How responsive design made the web boring
Stripe Dashboard Page
Material Design
Bill Labus
Malthe Sigurdsson
Ben De Cock
PrototypeJS
Scriptaculous
John Resig
Sam Stephenson
SASS
LESS
@fat
PostCSS
BEM
BEM Nesting (+ Mixins!) in SASS
Facebook Instant Articles
Facebook Lite
John Gruber
Gruber on Instant Articles
46:00 - UI for pure utility vs UI ornamentation
Stripe Dashboard App
Sebastiaan De With
SCSI cable
VGA connector
50:00 - Web education and regulation
Healthcare.gov
Treehouse
Execute iOS
Sam Soffes
MeteorJS
Sacha Greif
React Native
George Kedenburg
NPM
ioJS logo thread
The Motherfuton News on YouTube
The Motherfuton News on Spoken

Jun 15, 2015 • 53min
34: Second Shift (feat. Allison House)
This week we hopped on a call with the one-and-only Allison House! Allison currently lives in Austin, exploring her way through 3D art and design - in this episode we chat about her background in design, her transition into 3D and what she's excited for in the future. We're also in the running for Podcast of the Year!
If you're enjoying the show, we'd love your support - Vote for Design Details.
If you have feedback or suggestions please don't hesitate to reach us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm or email us directly!
Sponsor:
Iconfinder
Allison on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Dribbble
Instagram
Allison's Newsletter
Tumblr
Show Notes:
3:00 - What in the world are you working on?
Allison's Tumblr
Cinema 4D
The Bomb
Greyscalegorilla
9:00 - Have you felt new clarity after leaving SF?
11:00 - What got you started in design?
Treehouse
Carsonified
Ryan Carson
Codecademy
Jason Fried
Gary Vaynerchuck
19:00 - Why Dropbox?
Morgan Knutson
Soleio
20:00 - How do you identify the next place to grow as a designer?
Dropbox on Dribbble
22:00 - Allison shares her process for the Tweedy video.
Tweedy video
Cinematic Storytelling
28:00 - How do you incorporate expression into design?
Slack
30:00 - What are other products you're excited about right now?
Giphy
Allison on Giphy
Tim Reynolds
Society6 (Allison's store)
35:00 - What's your take on the state of Dribbble and design credibility?
Allison on Dribbble
The Dribbblisation of Design
Morgan on Dribbble
Adobe MAX Conference
39:00 - Allison explains her learning process.
Ryan Putnam
Ryan's Cactus
Allison's animated cactus
44:00 - What's the big picture goal for you as an artist and designer?
Brooklyn Beta
Designer Fund
47:00 - What are the common struggles for designers moving from freelance to full time?
Allison's newsletter
Allison's website

Jun 10, 2015 • 1h 10min
33: The Rusty Theorem (feat. Marc Edwards & Russell Ivanovic)
The epic conclusion of our first ever two-parter! Marc and Russell were kind enough to come back for round two to discuss Apple's WWDC Keynote, Marc's weird workflows, optical alignment, PDF assets and more!
We're also in the running for Podcast of the Year! If you're enjoying the show, we'd love your support - vote for Design Details!
If you have feedback or suggestions please don’t hesitate to reach out to us on Twitter at @designdetailsfm!
Sponsor:
Dropbox
Marc Edwards on the Web
Twitter
Dribbble
Bjango
Russell Ivanovic on the Web
Twitter
Website
ShiftyJelly
Show Notes:
4:00 - "What'd you think of the Apple Keynote?"
Full Keynote
Jimmy Iovine
El Capitán
Sam Soffes
Caleb Davenport
Daring Fireball
SFNSDisplay
Search Settings
20:30 - Marc's shameful admission
Alfred
Marc's 34" display
25:00 - iOS announcements
Episode 9
30:00 - Open Source Swift and the only hardware announcement at WWDC
Skala View
Skala
Federico Viticci
Myke Hurley
Stephen Hackett
Chris Martin
Square Apple Pay Reader
34:00 - iOS Usability
Jean-Marc Denis
38:30 - Apple Music
"It's like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell"
Apple Music
Beats One
Zane Lowe
Nilay Patel's piece on music DRM
Workflow App
"If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps."
Graham Clarke
Kiss FM
Silicon Valley
Loren Brichter
Dann Petty
49:30 - Optical Alignment
Cat's tweet
Soulver
"Using Soulver for Design" on Bjango
"The PLAY Button is Not Optical Alignment" on Medium
57:00 - PDF Assets on iOS
PaintCode
Bjango articles
Bjango actions
Keyboard Maestro
iStat Menus


