

The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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Mar 5, 2026 • 1h 24min
439 - Pavel Shchelin - Plutarch: Symbolism of History with Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin
Pavel Shchelin, an Orthodox political theologian who teaches Plutarch, explores how ancient biographies expose recurring patterns of ambition and authority. He discusses religion’s hidden role in politics, Cicero’s rhetorical age versus later men of command, and how Plutarch’s stories mirror modern elites. Short, vivid takes on power, passion, and the symbolism shaping history.

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Mar 2, 2026 • 1h 23min
438 - Universal History: The American Religion: Making Way for Mormonism
Deacon Seraphim Rohlin, an Orthodox Christian deacon and commentator, traces how early American enchantment shaped movements like Mormonism. He explores folk magic, treasure-seeking, seer stones, ritual garments, and claims of restored priesthood. He also discusses how such movements often secularize over time as they seek respectability.

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Feb 26, 2026 • 50min
437 - Making Space for the Resurrection of Art (Makers and Mystics)
Jonathan Pageau, writer, artist, and public speaker who explores symbolism and sacred stories. He discusses cultural narrative exhaustion and the fading post–WWII story. They explore reviving fairy tales, the difference between art and propaganda, complexity that trusts the audience, and how AI and craft will reshape the future of art.

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Feb 19, 2026 • 52min
436 - Reflections on the Void: negativity and difference in the Bible and contemporary thinking
A wide-ranging reflection on the void as a formative force in Scripture, philosophy, and modern thought. Conversations trace Genesis imagery, the tension between identity and difference, and how emptiness shapes variation and myth. Topics include sexual symbolism, sin as mistaking negativity for being, postwar focus on alterity, and how Mary models a restorative openness.

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Feb 12, 2026 • 1h 5min
435 - The Song of Creation (Charleston talk)
Jonathan Pageau, presenter and symbolic artist who explores traditional symbolism and sacred stories, reads Genesis as a divine song. He traces the seven-day rhythm of heaven and earth, from light and void to Sabbath. Short, vivid sections treat heavenly patterns, seeds and creatures, human meaning, and the cosmic order as musical structure.

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Feb 12, 2026 • 21min
434 - Immigration and Tolerance: Christians Are Not Called to Be “Nice”
A theological take on the parable of the wedding feast and its tougher, exclusionary details. A look at why symbolic conformity like the wedding garment matters for bodies and nations. A discussion applying that symbolism to immigration and the limits needed to preserve community identity. A critique of compassion turned into unchecked inclusion.

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Jan 30, 2026 • 23min
433 - Symbolism Happens! The Mandela Effect Is Not a Glitch in the Matrix
They explore why large groups share the same false memories and classic Mandela Effect examples. They contrast psychological memory-compression with a symbolic reading of how legends and archetypes form. They argue pattern recognition can be a cognitive strength and challenge simulation and parallel-timeline explanations. They connect pop culture misrememberings to deeper mythic and fertility imagery.

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Jan 25, 2026 • 55min
432 - Yelena Popovic - Moses the Black
Yelena Popovic, filmmaker known for faith-based films about Orthodox saints, discusses Moses the Black. She explains why she set the saint’s redemption story in modern Chicago. Short takes cover research with ex-gang members, casting high-profile collaborators, and portraying repentance and realistic priestly figures. The conversation focuses on filmmaking choices and reaching people who doubt forgiveness.

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Jan 20, 2026 • 1h 9min
431 - Joshua Sturgill & Dcn Seraphim Rohlin - The Art of Imitating Heaven: Structure and Meaning in Ancient Cosmology
Join Joshua Sturgill, a scholar of medieval philosophy and ancient cosmology, alongside Deacon Seraphim Rohlin, as they delve into the fascinating intersection of ancient beliefs and modernity. They discuss how ancient people understood the night sky, the impact of cosmic symbolism on the soul, and why we should recover cosmological thinking today. Topics like the dangers of astrology, the relationship between heaven and earth, and the significance of seasonal cycles and celestial events, such as the Magi's star, highlight the richness of ancient wisdom.

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Jan 9, 2026 • 41min
430 - JP Marceau - The Mythology of Demographic Collapse
In this discussion, Jean-Philippe Marceau, an author known for his insights on religious symbolism and cultural critique, delves into the pressing issue of demographic collapse. He compares today’s declining birth rates to the biblical Flood, highlighting potential cultural ramifications. The conversation explores how technology and changing social norms impact fertility, with critiques of pornography and automation. Ultimately, Marceau argues for the necessity of family and cultural continuity as a solution amidst looming demographic challenges.


