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Eric Siu and Neil Patel
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Apr 30, 2017 • 8min
How to Promote Old Content Without Being Spammy | Ep. #273
In Episode #273, Eric and Neil discuss how to promote old content without being spammy. Tune in to learn updating tactics that will help you refresh your old content to make it new. Eric and Neil also share how to republish, re-promote, and repurpose your old content to drive more traffic to your site. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How to Promote Old Content Without Being Spammy
00:37 – Eric has been upgrading their past content 00:41 – When content is being upgraded, Eric will notify their email list that the content is updated 01:01 – Eric might use Facebook ads to communicate this as well 01:09 – The content will then be new to people and still relevant 01:20 – Neil shares what Brian Dean of Backlinko did 01:21 – Brian takes his old content, adds a few paragraphs, makes it better, changes the published date on WordPress so the content will be at the top and fresh 01:35 – Brian then promotes it again on social media and it actually works well 01:43 – Doing this keeps you getting more views and your rankings and traffic will go up 01:58 – Most of what Neil writes on his blogs is evergreen 02:13 – Neil re-promotes and repurposes content that is valuable 02:21 – “It’s all about value at the end of the day” 02:30 – You can use Edgar to continuously promote your post over time 02:55 – Some of Marketing School’s episodes are constantly republished, using the right setting 03:06 – You don’t need to republish content every month, just once or twice a year is fine 03:25 – Marketing School is giving away a free one-year subscription to Alexa, which is an SEO tool 03:42 – Subscribe, rate and review Marketing School
03:47 – Text MARKETINGSCHOOL to 33444 04:02 – Alexa has changed and improved drastically 04:43 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: You can update your content by adding a few paragraphs of NEW information and it will still be valuable to people. Republishing and repurposing your content can drives more and more traffic to your page—including new traffic. Consistently promote your content with the right settings and to the right audience. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 29, 2017 • 9min
Do You Still Need to Build Links if Your Traffic Is Growing? | Ep. #272
In Episode #272, Eric and Neil discuss whether you still need to build links if your traffic is growing. Tune in to learn when it’s the RIGHT time to build your links and when it’s time to work on creating great content. This will help you save time and maximize your efforts. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: Do You Still Need to Build Links if Your Traffic Is Growing?
00:39 – “You don’t really need to build links if your traffic is growing” 00:48 – If you build links, you’ll only get results 6 months later 00:58 – Your traffic will grow from 3-6 months on, as soon as it starts flatlining, you will need to build links again 01:17 – When your links start declining on the upwards swing, then you have to build more and more 01:26 – You don’t have to build your links every month because it’s expensive and time consuming 01:35 – If you have a good base, it is better to build more traffic, like what Eric does 01:39 – Just write more content so you’ll have more words which will lead to more search traffic 01:47 – Building traffic is easier than building links 01:49 – You still need to have enough links for the content to work 01:58 – Neil builds links once every quarter 02:13 – When Eric started Single Grain, they only had 5K-7K website visits a month and it has now grown into 58K 02:30 – Each quarter, Eric will do dial-up link building 02:40 – Eric consistently creates content as well 02:47 – Eric upgrades their content 02:29 – Repurposing content works for Eric, too 03:14 – Eric continuously hires new writers 03:28 – When you’re domain authority is good and generating traffic organically, that’s when you slow down with link building and focus on content 03:46 – You need a base of links for your content to do well 03:58 – You can track your link building using Ahrefs
04:12 – Marketing School is giving away free one-year subscription of LeadQuizzes which will allow you to create quizzes that collect leads 04:33 – Subscribe, rate and review Marketing School
04:29 – Text MARKETINGSCHOOL to 33444 04:58 – Eric and Neil simply want to share the tools that they use, they’re not getting anything from it 05:16 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: If your traffic is constantly and consistently growing, link building is optional. You still need to have enough links for your content to work and generate traffic to your site. It’s about testing – test to know what works well for your site. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 28, 2017 • 10min
How Small Businesses Can Get Started with PR Without Hiring an Agency | Ep. #271
In Episode #271, Eric and Neil discuss how a small business can get started with public relations without hiring an agency. Tune in to learn the online tools that can help make your PR a breeze and other effective ways that do not cost you a single dollar. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How Small Businesses Can Get Started with PR Without Hiring an Agency
00:36 – Public relations is still relevant today 00:49 – Eric recommends HARO or Help a Reporter Out 00:54 – You can find reporters who are also looking for help 01:04 – They have all sorts of categories of stories that you don’t expect 01:16 – Monitor it and get daily alerts 01:28 – Neil, as a startup, loves using agencies and individual people 01:37 – Chris Barrett is a performance-based PR rep 01:47 – Traditional PR people don’t think that Chris’ model is healthy for the space 01:55 – Chris still continues with his model and has also worked with Eric 02:14 – Pay per performance is definitely an option 02:21 – PRLOG is another tool that you can use 02:28 – “The best PR isn’t what most people think of” 02:36 – Neil hit people up in their space and he helped them out for free 02:44 – Get them to blog about your business in exchange for the “help” 03:06 – You can also use Mail Merge to reach out to people 03:22 – JournoRequest can also do PR for you 03:33 – Take a look at your dimensions and your competitors’ as well 03:51 – Have the monitoring tools in place 03:56 – PR is a numbers game 04:22 – Another tool is Radio Guest List which is similar to HARO, but for audio 04:56 – BlogDash will make blog outreach easier 05:15 – Marketing School is giving away a one year annual subscription to LeadQuizzes which allows you to collect leads from the quizzes you made 05:30 – To win, rate, review, and subscribe to Marketing School
05:33 – Text MARKETINGSCHOOL to 33444 05:43 – Neil used LeadQuizzes on his website, Nutrition Secrets 06:18 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: PR is still relevant today and even small businesses need it – it increases brand awareness. Pay per performance is an option that you can try, especially if you’re a small company. PR is a numbers game – track your dimensions. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 27, 2017 • 10min
How to Make Videos on a Budget | Ep. #270
In Episode #270, Eric and Neil discuss how to make videos on a budget. Tune in to learn why videos are significant to you content strategy and why you should hire a videographer and video editor instead of doing everything on your own. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How to Make Videos on a Budget
00:50 – It is important to have videos as part of your content strategy 00:58 – Videos are easier to consume and can be seen everywhere 01:14 – If you’re just starting, do live videos with Facebook and YouTube 01:20 – Just take out your iPhone and talk into it 01:34 – Check Tai Lopez who spends millions on video 01:58 – Use Animoto to turn your simple videos into an ad 02:13 – Sean Duran’s explainer videos 02:24 – Explainer videos should have a script that answers objections 02:43 – Neil pitched some of his friends to be his videographer and editor 03:08 – Neil’s friend posted a videographer job listing for $3K a month 03:15 – The responses were crazy 03:40 – Eric had a job post in Workable for a videographer and received 400 applications 04:15 – Videographers are in demand 04:25 – You can get videographers and video editors on a budget 04:58 – Marketing School is giving away a one year annual subscription for LeadQuizzes which allows you to collect leads from the quizzes you made 05:05 –To win, rate, review, and subscribe to Marketing School
05:11 - Text MARKETINGSCHOOL to 33444 05:19 – Neil tested LeadQuizzes on one of his websites, Nutrition Secrets 05:43 – It increased Neil’s leads over 500% 06:05 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: Going live on social media is one of the easiest ways to start with videos. Videographers are currently in demand—find one who can deliver what you need at a price you can afford. High quality videos boost your conversion rates, it’s definitely worth investing in. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 26, 2017 • 11min
How to Find and Work with Influencers | Ep. #269
In Episode #269, Eric and Neil discuss how to find and work with influencers. Tune in to learn the ins and outs of influencer marketing including where and how to find them, why they’re cheaper than celebrities, and the importance of consistency in your influencer campaign. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How to Find and Work with Influencers
00:34 – Eric has a few friends who are working on their own influencer platform 00:50 – Influencer marketing has always been around 01:11 – “Anybody could become an influencer after putting in the work” 01:21 – The easiest way to search for an influencer, without spending, is going through social media sites 01:27 – In Instagram, use certain hashtags and look for people who are up and coming 01:32 – You can work with people who are starting to build their online presence—this way, it won’t be too pricey 01:50 – Eric has used influencer marketing for a previous client and they used FameBit
02:00 – Neil used influencer marketing on Facebook and Instagram and reached out to some celebrities 02:18 – The Kardashians will do an online paid post for $500K 02:33 – “It’s so expensive to reach out to people” 02:45 – Neil suggests finding those that are popular with the people in your target market and pay them to pass over that network/audience to you—it’s so much cheaper than using expensive celebrities 03:18 – If you’re building an entrepreneur channel, use hashtags that are relevant to your market 03:38 – Reach out to people who are getting a good amount of likes and comments and ask them for their paid shoutout rates 04:09 – Influencer marketing doesn’t always work 04:46 – If you’re doing influencer marketing consistently, that’s when it will work 05:03 – If you’re doing influencer marketing, you should have content as well 05:16 – Figure out how you can add value to your audience 05:24 – There are pricing guidelines for how much you should be paying influencers on YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram 05:55 – Marketing School is giving away a one year annual subscription to LeadQuizzes, which allows you to collect leads from the quizzes you made 06:06 –To win, rate, review, and subscribe to Marketing School
06:12 – Text MARKETINGSCHOOL to 33444 06:30 – Neil and Eric are giving away tools that they use personally and they don’t earn from it 07:14 – You can go to Neil Patel’s LeadQuizzes case study to know how valuable the leads are from LeadQuizzes 07:35 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: Influencer marketing has always been around and to be successful, you have to do it consistently. Valuable content will make an influencer’s post more engaging. You don’t have to spend much on an influencer – you just have to find the right influencer for your target market. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 25, 2017 • 8min
How to Track Brand Awareness | Ep. #268
In Episode #268, Eric and Neil discuss how to track brand awareness. Tune in to learn just how important it is to be on top of your brand awareness, the tools that you will help you track your brand’s online presence, and the NEW giveaway from Marketing School. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How to Track Brand Awareness
00:37 – Neil firmly believes in branding 00:57 – There are few things you can do to track brand awareness 01:00 – One is to survey people in your industry asking how well they know your brand 01:10 – Second is to use Google Trends to scope out the businesses you want to check and compare with your brand 01:35 – What Eric learned from Brendon Burchard, a fellow marketer 01:43 – A brand isn’t just a logo, it’s a story 02:26 – When tracking brands, use Google Alerts or Mention to track keywords 02:41 – You can be updated in real time when someone mentions your brand 03:00 – You can then start a relationship with someone who mentions your brand and help them if needed 03:21 – Use Google Search Console to check on your monthly impressions 03:46 – Marketing School is giving away a free tool called LeadQuizzes which allows you to make quizzes for your target market 04:05 – A one year annual prescription will go to 5 people 04:16 – To win, rate, review, and subscribe to Marketing School
04:21 – Text MARKETINGSCHOOL to 33444 04:38 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: Branding is significant to one’s success – your brand should stick in people’s minds. Track yours and your competitors’ brands to find out how to stay ahead. Build a relationship with those who mention or appreciate your brand—it can be a potential partnership. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 24, 2017 • 14min
How to Start a Marketing Agency | Ep. #267
In Episode #267, Eric and Neil discuss how to start a marketing agency. Tune in to learn how to scale yourself up from zero to a million as well as how to create an effective marketing tactic when you’re just starting out. It’ll get you those clients and perhaps a date on Tinder, too! Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How to Start a Marketing Agency
00:40 – Neil shares why he named his first agency ACS 00:44 – ACS stands for Advantage Consulting Services 00:47 – Neil and his co-founder thought of the name 01:07 – ACS was created 16 years ago 01:30 – Neil is starting a new marketing agency 02:03 – Neil wanted a website like iProspect’s, which is one of the biggest marketing agencies 02:14 – When starting a website, have your own unique angle 02:20 – Keep it simple 02:22 – Go on Crunchbase, find companies that are recently funded, email them their flaws in a full detailed document 02:49 – From there, you can get clients and start having your own agency 03:05 – If you want to start a marketing agency, you have to be confident in marketing 03:11 – You have to do business development 03:28 – If you’re starting out, use Mixmax’s sequences 03:30 – Set up sequences and reach out to people like a cold outreach 03:57 – Going from 0 to 1M, it all starts with you 04:12 – Eric got a client from Quora by answering a question for SEO 04:21 – Think about where your people are hanging out 04:30 – Eric has a friend who currently makes money from Instagram 04:50 – Neil asks Eric the one thing he would do if he’s just starting 04:59 – "Give free advice every single day” 05:24 – People will eventually respond to you 05:33 – Eric even sent Neil a couple of emails before responding to Neil’s blog 05:45 – “You got to show value first and then, from there, you can scale up” 05:50 – Neil will also do the same thing as Eric if he’s just starting out 06:00 – Neil will send an email with the name and a catchy sentence about the person’s business 06:39 – Use tools like Mixmax, Outreach and ZenProspect to make sure you have a CSV of the company names for the outreach 06:47 – Marketing is a numbers game 07:02 – Eric used to take videos to get clients 07:22 – Start to build up your portfolio and do some work for free to get referrals 07:33 – It’s going to be tough at first 07:39 – Neil has a reader who used his marketing funnels to get dates on Tinder 07:50 – Funnels is compared to the act of swiping 07:58 – The more people you email, the more opens you’re going to get 08:20 – In Tinder, there’s a feature called “super like” 08:49 – A “super like” is when a person made you a favorite 09:00 – If you have a good headline, people will click through 09:20 – Make sure you have a good image, just like in Tinder 10:00 – “Do good work and then things will start to happen” 10:05 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: Confidence is important, but being an excellent marketer is fundamental—people will know if you are an expert or are just trying to be one. There’s no elevator to success. Reach out to people as often as possible and offer free work if needed. Create a plan and research how you will develop your business. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 23, 2017 • 7min
How to Leverage Pinterest Search Ads | Ep. #266
In Episode #266, Eric and Neil discuss how to leverage Pinterest search ads. Tune in to learn why the best time to try Pinterest search ads is NOW and how you can leverage it efficiently to get the most success. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How to Leverage Pinterest Search Ads
00:34 – In 2017, Pinterest has released the ability to run ads where you can target specific keywords 01:03 – Pinterest is growing and becoming a serious business 01:21 – Pinterest users are almost equally divided by men and women in other countries 01:33 – Neil asks Eric to try selling digital products to men and women to see who converts better 01:40 – Women have a higher conversion rate and are less likely to refund 01:47 – Eric wouldn’t make a refund 01:53 – Guys always return Neil’s products 02:05 – When a woman buys your product, they are more likely to read it, implement it, and learn from it 02:19 – A guy buys it, but doesn’t do anything with it 02:37 – One of Eric’s friends says “people are buying perceived progress” 02:57 – Neil has tried Pinterest search ads and it works really well 02:59 – You have to really target your product in your search 03:09 – You may want to get into it now as it’s still new 03:30 – Don’t blame Neil, but you can blame Eric if you lose money 03:45 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: Pinterest is becoming a more viable and serious business—it might be worth it to run your ads through this platform. Create a product that is easily targeted in your search. Pinterest is still unsaturated with ads, so there’s a good chance of you succeeding if you try it now. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 22, 2017 • 7min
What Are Apple Search Ads? | Ep. #265
In Episode #265, Eric and Neil discuss what Apple search ads are. Tune in to find out the benefits of investing in an app, whether it’s a fit for your business, and the ways you can boost your install rate via Apple apps. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: What Apple Search Ads Are
00:37 – If you’re searching on the App Store, you can actually bid on specific keywords that will trigger your app on a search 00:49 – You’ll have a sponsored ad on top of that and people can click through 00:57 – The goal is to get more installs 01:13 – Eric has been testing this for quite some time 01:17 – The average cost per install or CPI has been getting higher over the years 01:37 – If you have an app you want to push, this is one of the ways to do it 01:51 – Neil has also tried this and it works if your app has a decent rating 02:13 – The rating should be from a good number of people 02:47 – Apps are supplemental for businesses, but don’t try to bet everything on the apps you create 02:59 – It is too expensive 03:15 – It might worth a shot for your business—so try it 03:26 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: You can bid on a specific keyword to call up your app on the App store. Your app needs decent ratings for the search ads to work well. Apple search ads aren’t as sophisticated as Facebook or Instagram ads—but, is still worth a try. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 21, 2017 • 9min
How to Master the Art of Upselling | Ep. #264
In Episode #264, Eric and Neil discuss how you can master the art of upselling. Tune in to find out how YOU can master the art of upselling, the benefit of targeting your existing clients, and how offering more speed and more automation can be your ticket to doubling your revenue. Time Stamped Show Notes: 00:27 – Today’s topic: How to Master the Art of Upselling
00:36 – Eric went to San Francisco to meet existing and prospective clients 01:05 – Before going into the meetings, Eric had a talk with his team to discuss what they can offer their clients 01:25 – Eric showed them mind-blowing facts about their clients’ competitors 01:41 – Eric probably gained an additional $150K in contracts 01:54 – You need to add value, first, to master the art of upselling 01:56 – If the client is satisfied with your work, they want to meet you and this is an opportunity to upsell 02:02 – “It’s all about expansion” 02:15 – Upselling is about speed and automation 02:28 – Neil learned this from Ryan Deiss of Digital Marketer
03:21 – “You can’t just do more speed and more automation of something random, it has to be related to [your product]” 03:32 – Trey Lewellen uses Click Funnels for selling gun related products 03:51 – Trey drives people to a landing page to buy gun oils 04:00 – Trey has more upsells 04:22 – Russell Brunson’s interview with Trey
04:58 – Eric uses Mixmax to set reminders for himself 05:15 – Eric makes sure he follows up with his prospective and current clients and believes salespeople should do the same thing 05:34 – That’s it for today’s episode! 3 Key Points: Adding value is the way to master the art of upselling. Offering speed and automation for the product or service you offer is a great way to upsell. The customers that have stayed with you the longest are the easiest to expand upon. Leave some feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with us: NeilPatel.com Quick Sprout Growth Everywhere Single Grain Twitter @neilpatel Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


