The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast

David Lecko, Ryan Haywood
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Apr 21, 2025 • 24min

333: 150+ Deals A Year In One Of The Toughest Markets

Laz Perez runs a South Florida real estate business focused on wholesaling, completing 160 deals last year. He notes that the Florida market is currently "pretty cold" or softer. To navigate this, Laz emphasizes dynamic pricing based on market conditions and a strong disposition process with a focus on building a buyer pool. Despite the cooling market, Laz believes absolutely there is still opportunity by understanding local areas and adapting strategies.Here are three impressive things about Laz Perez:Laz shifted his business strategy from buying properties at auctions to directly reaching out to sellers. This shows he can adapt his approach as the market changes.After trying to flip houses himself, Laz realized his skills were better suited for marketing and sales. So he stopped flippingLaz finds a lot of satisfaction in seeing his team members succeed in their personal lives, like getting married and buying homes. This highlights his focus on people and team building. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview Of Laz Perez’s Business1:54 - Finding A Job In The Real Estate Industry Before Investing3:30 - What Happened With His First Few Flips & Where He Found Them8:14 - Transitioning Into Marketing To Sellers9:43 - One Of His High Points As A Business Owner10:30 - Hiring Talent Proactively12:53 - Having Hard Conversations With Employees14:08 - Is Wholesaling Too Competitive?16:15 - Do Interest Rates Affect Laz’s Business?19:34 - Building A Buyers List20:56 - The Mindset That Led To His Success22:07 - What He’d Be Doing If He Wasn’t In Real Estate22:55 - What Laz Is Looking Forward To Most In 202523:42 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Laz Perezhttps://www.instagram.com/LachPerez/ Website: Laz Perezhttps://www.peakcashoffers.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 16min

332: From Firefighter to $4M A Year Through Wholesale Real Estate

Are you frustrated by inconsistent deal flow in your wholesaling business after experiencing initial wins, perhaps remembering the excitement of your first $20,000 deal but struggling to scale? In this episode, we learn from Aaron Gaunt, who progressed from those early successes to running a Southern California wholesale operation that achieved under four million in deals last year. He'll reveal the team structure, including three outside sales reps and four inside sales reps, and the systems he implemented to move beyond sporadic deals to a predictable volume. Discover how Aaron built a "lean and mean" operation to consistently generate and close wholesale transactions, allowing him to focus on growth and even dedicate time to personal pursuits. Here are three impressive things about Aaron Gaunt:Aaron made a life-changing decision to quit his job as a firefighter after his first significant $55,000 wholesale deal (by reselling a contract), demonstrating a bold move based on early success and belief in his real estate venture.Aaron has proactively implemented strategies to "buy back his time," including building a full commercial-grade gym at his house and hiring someone to handle household chores, freeing up several hours each week to focus on his business and personal life.Aaron emphasizes the importance of core values (growthminded, competitive greatness, extreme ownership) and a mission statement (be excellent, be ethical, lasting relationship with you) within his company, actively integrating them into team training and daily operations. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Working On Fitness To Maximize Productivity4:01 - Buying Back Your Time5:45 - How Can A Real Estate Business Generate Recurring Revenue11:03 - What David Put In Place To Buy Back His Time15:48 - Books That David Recommends18:54 - How Do You Keep More Of The Revenue You Generate?30:20 - What Aaron’s Business Looks Like33:58 - How He Approaches Training His Employees35:53 - Why Aaron Got Into Real Estate & Low Points In His Journey43:49 - One Of His Highest Points In Business46:22 - How To Make Sure Your Kids Aren’t Spoiled53:21 - What Aaron Would Say If Someone Said It Was Too Late To Invest53:55 - DealMachine’s Data & AI In Real Estate59:42 - Cold Calling Services1:04:49 - What Aaron Is Looking Forward To In 20251:07:30 - The Early Days Of Balancing Firefighting And Starting A Business1:15:34 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Aaron Gaunthttps://www.instagram.com/AaronLGaunt/ Website: Aaron Gaunthttps://linktr.ee/algaunt88 Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 16, 2025 • 33min

331: 200+ Real Estate Deals A Year—Here’s How He Got There

Are you spending valuable time and resources on marketing that yields no results due to inaccurate or outdated data? In this episode, we learn from Chad Young, who openly shares his early struggles that involved sending out an estimated 20,000 to 30,000 yellow letters based on poor data, which significantly delayed his first successful transaction. Chad will explain how he persevered through these initial setbacks and eventually discovered effective marketing methods that led his company to achieve 200 deals per year. Discover actionable insights from Chad's journey to help you avoid similar pitfalls and streamline your path to consistent deal flow in real estate.Here are three impressive things about Chad Young that were not explicitly mentioned in the episode:Chad demonstrated significant perseverance despite early setbacks and a substantial financial investment of around $30,000 before securing his first deal. This highlights his determination to succeed even when faced with initial failure due to bad data.Chad's company experienced a period of rapid growth after shifting marketing strategies, notably with radio advertising, where they were spending approximately $5,000 per month and consistently securing three contracts with an average profit of $40,000 each. This indicates a highly effective marketing phase.Chad has made a significant commitment to leadership development, investing heavily in coaching for himself and his team with the specific goal of scaling his business further. This demonstrates a strategic approach to long-term growth beyond just deal acquisition. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Why It Took Chad Young So Long To Get His First Deal3:26 - The Story Behind His First Deal6:33 - His Journey From 1 to 500 Deals10:43 - Why The Industry Favors Cold Calling11:25 - The Mindset That Led To His Success13:52 - How His Team Has Evolved15:23 - What Chad Is Looking Forward To In 202516:44 - Having Hard Conversations20:34 - The Double Lot Data From DealMachine & More Data He Wants23:22 - What He’s Hoping To Learn From CG This Year24:33 - What Chad Would Be Doing If He Wasn’t In Real Estate25:23 - Are Interest Rates Too High To Invest?26:50 - One Of His Lowest Lows In Business29:42 - His Highest Highs31:55 - Closing Thoughts32:55 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Chad Younghttps://www.instagram.com/chadyoungid/ Website: The Easy Home Buyerhttps://theeasyhomebuyer.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 15, 2025 • 16min

330: These 5 Numbers Decide Whether You Close Deals Or Fail

Most investors struggle because they’re flying blind — but it doesn’t have to be that way. In this episode, you’ll learn the 5 core metrics that top-performing real estate investors track every week to identify bottlenecks, boost conversions, and grow consistently. Plus, you’ll hear the personal story behind the 4P mindset that helped turn a financial low point into a thriving business.Email To Get The LOACC Spreadsheet: yourgift@joehomebuyer.com KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - The 4P Model That Joe Homebuyer Uses3:29 - Learning From The Highs And Lows In Your Life6:53 - LOACC: Your Business Vitals11:12 - Tracking Your Business Vitals With The Joe Homebuyer Spreadsheet15:29 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Joe Homebuyerhttps://www.instagram.com/joehomebuyerfranchising/ Website: Joe Homebuyerhttps://www.joehomebuyer.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 14, 2025 • 44min

329: How He Got To 360 Rentals (And What He’d Do Differently)

Welcome to the show for real estate investors looking to go beyond the limitations of the Multiple Listing Service. Are you tired of competing for slim margins on MLS properties and wondering how to tap into more lucrative opportunities? In this episode, we sit down with Brian Higgins, who initially started his real estate journey by buying rentals on the MLS without even knowing about wholesaling. Brian's story takes us through his evolution into a seasoned investor who built a portfolio of 360 rental properties and also successfully wholesaled approximately 500 properties over a few years. Tune in to learn how Brian transitioned beyond relying solely on the MLS to uncover alternative deal sources and develop the analysis skills needed to achieve significant scale in your real estate business. Here are three impressive things about Brian Higgins that were not explicitly mentioned in the podcast intro we created:Brian and his partner rapidly scaled their business, purchasing approximately 800 to 900 deals in a four-year range. This demonstrates a significant pace of acquisition and activity.Brian's understanding of deal analysis evolved to prioritize long-term cash flow over just initial equity gains, recognizing that even deals with high equity might not be sound investments if they don't cash flow adequately. This shows a deeper understanding of sustainable real estate investing.Brian and his partner developed a model called "burn keys" where they would wholesale properties, renovate them, and even offer property management, providing a full-service solution for investors. This highlights their innovative approach and ability to cater to a specific investor need. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview Of Brian Higgins’ Business2:59 - How Brian Got His Start In Real Estate7:57 - The Investors That Buy Deals From Him8:41 - Offsetting The Income From Real Estate & Cost Segregation12:18 - What He Was Trying To Accomplish When He Started His Business14:48 - Owning 360 Rentals & A Property Management Company18:33 - How His Thought Process Changed After Having A Few Properties Paid Off22:07 - The Mindset That Led To His Success24:01 - Working With Contractors & Appraisers26:45 - How Brian Approaches Renovation Costs31:53 - What He’d Be Doing If He Wasn’t Doing Real Estate32:45 - His Lowest Point In Business34:39 - His Highest Highs In Business36:05 - What He Would Say To Someone Who Says It’s Too Late To Invest39:41 - What He’s Looking Forward To Most In 202543:42 - Closing Thoughts44:09 - Outro LINKS:Facebook: Brian Higginshttps://www.facebook.com/brian.higgins.904/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 11, 2025 • 45min

328: What It Really Takes to Flip 100 Houses a Year

Are you concerned about the increasing costs of marketing diminishing your returns in wholesaling? In this episode, we learn from Chris Burrow, who transitioned beyond initial wholesaling to navigate these challenges. Chris currently focuses on fix and flip projects and manages 60 rental properties as part of his business, aiming for approximately 100 deals annually across these various strategies. Discover how exploring options like fix and flip and long-term rentals can provide more sustainable pathways in a changing market.Here are three more impressive things about Chris Burrow:Chris experienced rapid success after starting in real estate investing in 2018, going from making only $20,000 as a real estate agent in 2017 to quickly closing deals and catching up on debt.He places a strong emphasis on building genuine connections with sellers by listening to their stories and offering solutions based on empathy, contrasting this with the sales-focused approach he felt was inauthentic as an agent.Chris has developed structured systems for his fix and flip business, including a standardized renovation blueprint and a property grading system for efficient underwriting. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview of Chris Burrow’s Business1:03 - How He Got His Start In Real Estate1:59 - Why Flipping Felt More Authentic For Chris9:15 - Working With His Wife10:10 - When He Decided He Wanted To Flip Instead Of Wholesale14:25 - How They Estimate Rehab Costs16:44 - Deciding What To Anchor18:20 - How They Approach Sales Training23:11 - Finding Reliable Contractors28:35 - Are Interest Rates Too High To Invest?31:27 - What Chris Would Be Doing If He Wasn’t A Real Estate Investor32:27 - The Mindset That Led To His Success34:59 - His Highest High In Business38:03 - What He’s Looking Forward To Most In 202540:16 - The Hard To Get Data That Chris Is Looking For44:55 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Chris Burrowhttps://www.instagram.com/thechrisburrow/ Website: Chris Burrowhttps://www.maximumcashhomebuyers.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/ 
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Apr 9, 2025 • 23min

Hard To Get Data That Real Estate Investors Want (That WE Have)

Real estate investors always want an edge—and in this video, we break down exactly what kind of data separates the pros from the pack. From AI-powered lists of likely sellers, to hidden double-lot flip opportunities, to the agents and property managers quietly controlling deal flow—we cover seven powerful data points that are hard to get... unless you know where to look. Learn how to use DealMachine’s filters (and a few backdoor tricks) to access all this and more. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - 9 Types Of Hard To Get Data That DealMachine Has1:30 - #1: Emails Of Vacant Scatter Lots4:16 - #2: Agents Who Sold More Than One New Construction In The Last Year5:47 - #3: Property Managers8:32 - #4: Homes On Double Lots12:58 - #5: Input 40 Previous Deals To Reverse Engineer17:50 - #6: Emergency List Of Run Down Properties18:57 - #7: Top Performing Agents Ordered By Listings With LinkedIn Profiles22:36 - Closing Thoughts LINKS:Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 9, 2025 • 39min

327: How Casey Turned One Rental Into 250 Deals

Are you finding that solely focusing on wholesale assignments limits your ability to capture long-term wealth and leaves you reliant on constantly finding new buyers? In this episode, we speak with Casey Gregersen, who started with his first off-market deal in 2010 and has built a vertically integrated real estate business. Casey will share how he evolved beyond just wholesaling, incorporating in-house construction and property management for his rental portfolio, aiming to complete 100 deals this year across various strategies. Learn how you can expand beyond the constraints of strictly wholesaling by understanding the benefits of buy-and-hold, fix and flip, and even raising capital to build a more resilient and profitable business.Here are three more impressive things about Casey Gregersen:Casey's real estate journey began with house hacking his first off-market deal in 2010, immediately generating cash flow by renting out rooms.Despite starting in real estate early, Casey continued to work a full-time W2 job at Shell for several years, strategically using his income and time off to learn and invest further.Casey made a significant life decision to leave his full-time job at Shell after realizing he was missing important family moments, demonstrating his commitment to aligning his work and personal priorities after building a stable real estate business. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview Of Casey Gregersen’s Business1:39 - When Casey Did His First Off-Market Deal3:49 - His Next Deals After That7:04 - The Mindset That Allowed Him To Rent Out His First Property9:20 - What Casey Would Say To People Who Think Interest Rates Are Too High13:12 - Is It Too Late To Invest In Real Estate?14:55 - Casey’s Lowest Lows In Business17:25 - His High Points In Business21:06 - What He’d Be Doing If He Never Got Into Real Estate22:20 - What He’s Looking Forward To Most In 202523:25 - The Data That Casey Needs The Most28:18 - The Last Topic He Spoke About At Collective Genius That Made Him Proud29:26 - The Mindset That Led To Casey’s Success31:36 - Tax Cheat Codes & The Entrepreneur Mindset39:02 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Casey Gregersenhttps://www.instagram.com/caseygregersen Website: Casey Gregersenhttps://caseygregersen.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 8, 2025 • 15min

326: 9 Common Seller Calls—And How to Win Them

Most real estate calls aren’t random—they follow patterns. In this episode, Erick Gydesen breaks down the 9 most common types of seller calls, from the angry "Remove me!" to the motivated "I liked your offer." You’ll learn exactly how to handle each one, keep the conversation alive, and turn more calls into closings. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - The Nine Different Types Of Seller Calls0:33 - 1: The Removal Call3:15 - 2: The Confusion Call4:16 - 3: I’m Saving It For Later4:45 - 4: On Market Home That Isn’t Selling8:35 - 5: Your Offer Is Too Low10:10 - 6: The Influencer Call11:19 - 7: I’m Selling, But Not For A Few Months12:30 - 8: I’m Trying To Learn More About Your Process14:35 - 9: I Like Your Offer15:14 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Erick Gydesenhttps://www.instagram.com/ErickGydesen/ Website: DM Forcehttps://dmforce.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Apr 7, 2025 • 28min

325: How Bentley Makes $100k On Deals Other Investors Ignore

Are you frustrated by the limited opportunities in traditional real estate and the struggle to find unique, high-potential deals? In this episode, we speak with Bentley Pugh from Seattle, who transitioned from being a real estate agent to specializing in underutilized infill lots and development opportunities. He'll share his journey and insights into how he identifies these unique situations in a competitive market like Seattle, and how his business achieved rapid growth to $12 million after just four to five years. Learn how Bentley's unconventional approach to real estate can provide a fresh perspective on finding less competitive and potentially lucrative deals Here are three more impressive things about Bentley Pugh:Bentley Pugh got into the real estate business simply by being a real estate agent. This suggests a grounded and organic entry into the field that later led to his specialization.His business focuses on underutilized infill lots. This specialization indicates a strategic approach to finding opportunities within a developed area like Seattle, potentially leveraging existing infrastructure.Bentley has a unique approach to finding talent, as evidenced by him observing someone doing good work (like diligently signing ballots) and then hiring that person months later. This demonstrates a keen eye for potential and a longer-term recruitment strategy. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview of Bentley Pugh’s Business2:50 - How His Life Would Be Different If He Wasn’t Investing3:25 - What Helped Him Become Successful In Business8:34 - Experiencing Tough Times In Business13:16 - The Highest Highs In His Business14:12 - How Do You Find Infill Lots?16:16 - What Bentley Would Say To Someone Who Says Interest Rates Are Too High18:04 - His Mindset On Teaching His Kids About Money19:54 - What He’s Looking Forward To In 202520:45 - Helping Your Employees Grow23:48 - Where He Finds Most Of His Team Members26:27 - Bentley’s Takeaway From Their Day At CG27:24 - What He Would Say To Someone Who Says It’s Too Late To Start27:48 - Closing Thoughts28:07 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Beachworks LLChttps://www.instagram.com/beachworksllc/ Website: Beachworks LLChttps://beachworks.org/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

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