The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast

Terrell Killings isn’t just flipping houses—he’s building real wealth. In this episode, he shares how he uses wholesaling to generate cash, then reinvests it into rentals using a mix of private money, hard money, and creative financing. You’ll hear how he stabilized distressed homes, built strong agent relationships, and created a mission-driven business that’s helping families while building his portfolio. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:25 - An Overview of Terrell Killings’ Business3:57 - Working With Private Investors6:25 - Terrell’s Process For Finding And Locking Up Deals10:58 - How He Got His Start In Real Estate14:59 - What He’s Looking To Learn From CG17:21 - Where The Mastermind Concept Came From20:20 - Being Satisfied With Success & Seeking Challenges26:18 - How DealMachine Helps Investors & Our Data30:32 - How His Team Handles Agent Outreach33:22 - What He’s Looking Forward To In 202534:45 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Terrell Killingshttps://www.instagram.com/terellkillings/ Website: Terrell Killingshttps://www.noblehomesolutions.net/ Phone: Terrell Killings(305)336-0075 Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

David sits down with longtime business partners Alex Capozzolo and Jon Sanborn, who’ve built a lean $1M+ wholesaling operation with just the two of them. They break down how finding a different kind of buyer—someone who doesn’t need a massive discount—lets them squeeze $20k+ more out of every deal. You’ll learn how they’re scaling without a team, why they favor wholetailing over wholesaling, and how Facebook groups still bring them five-figure spreads.Alex Capozzolo and Jon Sanborn co-founded Brotherly Love Real Estate, a real estate investing and house-flipping company based in Philadelphia PA. You can find out more about Brotherly Love Real Estate here: https://brotherlyloveproperties.com/ KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:16 - Jon Sanborn And Alex Capozzolo On Growing Up Together1:40 - An Overview Of Their Business3:19 - The Exit Strategies They Use5:23 - The Deals They Did In 20236:09 - Expanding Into Commercial9:35 - When They Got Their Start12:03 - How They Got Their Website Built14:02 - What They’re Looking Forward To In 202515:01 - Using Hard Money & Getting A Real Estate License20:07 - The Numbers Behind Their Best Cash Flowing Rental21:58 - Why They Don’t Do Many BRRRRs22:51 - Using Property Managers30:25 - What They’re Looking Forward To In CG31:37 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Brotherly Love Real Estatehttps://www.instagram.com/BrotherlyLoveRealEstate/ Website: Brotherly Love Real Estatehttps://brotherlyloveproperties.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

CJ Trivisonno owns a Keller Williams brokerage and a lean investing team—and he's seen firsthand which model is more scalable. In this episode, he and David break down the real numbers behind running a brokerage vs flipping houses, where most leads fall through the cracks, and how to turn dead leads into new revenue. CJ also shares what finally moved the needle in his investing business after burning cash on the wrong marketing. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:13 - An Overview Of CJ Trivisonno’s Business1:33 - Owning A Brokerage vs Running An Investing Business4:52 - The Investing Side Of The Business6:02 - Why CJ Didn’t Like PPL & Using Direct Mail Now11:25 - The KPIs In Their Business16:07 - Hiring A Lead Manager17:40 - Podcasts He’s Tuning Into & Lessons From Racing22:20 - The Importance of Seizing Opportunities When They Come25:08 - DealMachine’s Data Capabilities28:12 - Why David Started A Podcast30:57 - How David Stays Consistent35:43 - What CJ Is Learning From CG38:21 - Closing Thoughts38:37 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: CJ Trivisonnohttps://www.instagram.com/c.j.trivisonno/ Website: CJ Trivisonnohttps://linktr.ee/cjtriv Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

If you’ve felt stuck, frustrated, or like your deals just aren’t coming together — this 15-minute masterclass highlight is for you. Stephanie Owens, co-founder of Springboard to Wealth, breaks down 5 powerful mindset shifts every investor needs to stop sabotaging their own success. You’ll learn how to interrupt negative thought loops, refocus your energy, and take action with clarity. These are the exact steps that help top investors stay sharp and scale fast. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Why Your Mindset Determines Your Success0:51 - The Mindset Cycle4:06 - The Bad News And The Good News5:22 - Step 1: Awareness7:32 - Step 2: Ask Better Questions10:01 - Step 3: Shift Your Focus12:19 - Step 4: Write It Down13:50 - Step 5: The Super Charger15:27 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Stephanie Owenshttps://www.instagram.com/stephanieowens333/ Website: Springboard To Wealthhttps://www.springboardtowealth.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Tim Ebie left his 9-5 and built a growing land business in Houston—but doubling his revenue isn’t about bigger lists or better tools. It’s about leadership. In this episode, Tim shares the mindset shift that helped him build a team, coach them through challenges, and position his business for $1.3M in revenue. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:41 - How Tim Ebie Quit His 9-5 With Vacant Land1:26 - What Led To Him Starting In Wholesaling Real Estate3:46 - Doing Subject To Deals With Preforeclosures8:27 - The Best Deal He Ever Did10:38 - What He’s Looking Forward To This Year13:13 - Scaling A Real Estate Business & Growing As A Leader20:05 - DealMachine’s Data & Skip Tracing24:27 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Tim Ebiehttps://www.instagram.com/ebiegrouprealestate/ Website: Tim Ebiehttps://www.ebiegrouprealestate.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

What if your boss could fund your next deal? That’s exactly what happened to John Heisler—his boss gave him over $100k for a down payment. In this episode, John shares how he built deep trust, raised capital from unlikely sources, and pivoted from rentals to commercial deals like warehouses, storage, and offices. You’ll learn how he decides what to keep versus wholesale, how to structure partnerships, and why commercial real estate might be the path you’re overlooking. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro1:00 - John Heisler’s Life Before And After Real Estate2:00 - His Start In Real Estate5:41 - How He Decides Which Properties To Wholesale And Which To Keep7:51 - What John’s Portfolio Looks Like & How He Finds Deals9:09 - What It Takes To Buy A Commercial Deal13:40 - The Platform They Use To Look At Deals15:45 - How His Business Is Structured19:21 - His Role In His Partnerships20:49 - Why He Decided To Go Into Real Estate22:08 - What He’s Looking Forward To This Year24:00 - The CRE Playbook27:16 - What He’s Learning From CG29:27 - Closing Thoughts30:38 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: John Heislerhttps://www.instagram.com/John.W.Heisler/ Website: John Heislerhttps://www.cre-playbook.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Jake Arnold was on the fast track: rentals, wholesaling, and enough cash flow to quit his job by 25. But instead of feeling fulfilled, he hit a wall. In this episode, Jake sits down with David to share why he walked away from a high-volume wholesaling business — and how hitting financial freedom led him to something deeper. From living in a duplex during the pandemic to flipping for impact in his hometown, this is the story of a real estate pivot with purpose. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Jake Arnold’s Real Estate Business1:22 - The Data Behind Owning A Home And Successful Children4:00 - How He Got His Start In Real Estate10:11 - Living A Frugal Lifestyle11:42 - The Type Of Real Estate Jake Does15:49 - Why He Decided Not To Get His License17:52 - How He Decided What His Business’ Mission Would Be20:11 - Setting Expectations With Sellers21:15 - Why Jake Is Predicting That New Construction Will Be The Next Boom25:39 - Jake’s Current Numbers With Flipping Houses26:52 - Their Marketing Methods27:56 - Leaving His Partnership30:09 - The Marketing They Did Early On31:00 - Using DealMachine’s Data34:22 - What He’s Looking Forward To In 202535:52 - Closing Thoughts36:31 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Jake Arnoldhttps://www.instagram.com/TheRealJakeArnold/ Website: Jake Arnoldhttps://housebuyingsolutionspa.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

There’s more than one way to fund a real estate deal—but picking the wrong one could kill your profit. In this DealMachine Masterclass highlight, Andrew Worth breaks down the 4 most common funding strategies (cash, banks, private money, and hard money), plus the pros, cons, and when to use each. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Capitalizing Your Deals For Success5:58 - Funding Option 1: Cash7:14 - Funding Option 2: A Bank8:59 - Funding Option 3: Hard Money Lending12:10 - Funding Option 4: Private Money Lending14:07 - A Breakdown Of Funding Types With A Deal15:06 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Backfliphttps://www.instagram.com/dobackflip/ Website: Backfliphttps://backflip.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Peter Roth breaks down how to set up a cold calling center that actually works. From knowing when to hire your first caller to understanding what numbers to track, this episode clears up the confusion around outbound calling and gives you a framework to follow.Peter's Cell: 303-709-2090 KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Peter Roth’s Expertise In Building Call Centers0:53 - What Good Cold Calling Metrics Are3:32 - What Drove Peter To Focus On Cold Calling11:59 - How He Got His Start In Cold Outreach14:43 - Building A Successful Cold Calling Business18:23 - How Peter Advises New Businesses On Metrics22:26 - Seeing Entrepreneurship At A Young Age24:32 - How He Enjoys His Life As An Entrepreneur25:34 - Closing Thoughts And How To Contact Peter26:26 - Outro LINKS:Facebook: Peter Rothhttps://www.facebook.com/officialpeterroth Website: Peter Rothhttps://www.getsolarwise.com/solar-call-center/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

BJ Eshun and Ethan Mallory are flipping the script on what’s possible at a young age. At just 19 and 20, they’re closing 13 wholesale deals a month in Ohio, pulling in $96,000 in assignment fees, and expanding into new markets like Florida. David and Ryan dig into how they built momentum so quickly, how they split responsibilities, and what keeps them sharp while juggling school, social lives, and six figures in revenue. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:43 - BJ & Ethan’s Business2:56 - Why Their Partnership Fueled The Business5:29 - The Roles They Play In The Business7:58 - How They Approach Their Lists & Marketing9:52 - How They Got Their Start12:59 - Using DealMachine’s Data17:49 - David’s Data Tip When Using DealMachine24:13 - Their Cold Calling Team In Egypt26:22 - Finding Success At A Young Age28:43 - Their Average Assignment Fee30:44 - How They Found Their Cold Callers In Egypt33:13 - How They’re Spending Their Money36:44 - Finding Mentorship38:25 - Closing Thoughts39:10 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: BJ Eshunhttps://www.instagram.com/BJBuysRealEstate/ Instagram: Ethan Malloryhttps://www.instagram.com/EMallory_/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/