

Serious Privacy
Dr. K Royal, Paul Breitbarth & Ralph O'Brien
The PICCASO award winning Podcast, for those who are interested in the hottest field of human rights and laws on the digital frontier. Whether you are a professional who wants to learn more about privacy and privacy laws, data protection, GDPR or cyber law or someone who just finds this fascinating, we have topics for you from data management to cybersecurity, from social justice to data ethics and AI and digital identity protection. In-depth information on serious privacy topics including interviews with privacy leadership, privacy culture, serious discussions, and more. This podcast, hosted by Dr. K Royal, Paul Breitbarth and Ralph O'Brien, features open, unscripted discussions with global privacy professionals (those kitchen table or back porch conversations) where you hear the opinions and thoughts of those who are on the front lines working on the newest issues in handling personal data. Real information on your schedule - because the world needs serious privacy. Follow us on BlueSky (@seriousprivacy.eu) or LinkedIn
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Nov 4, 2021 • 48min
Privacy is Messy: a Kitchen Table Conversation (Paul and K)
Send us Fan MailWhat does a PhD dissertation, privacy books, the color of orange, and biometric legislation have in common? No, this is not some lame joke, but there is one of those in the episode. This week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal present one of their back porch / kitchen table conversations. The episode may be slightly messy. It might be slightly longer than you are used to, but a lot of updates are covered since it's been so long since one of these episodes given all the developments in privacy law. In this episode, Paul and K catch up on various topics, such as those listed above, but also a brief look into some of the upcoming episodes, such as the new law out of Quebec (more on that in the next episode) and the PIPL webinar on November 9, 2021. Be sure to catch that. In addition, please keep in mind that TrustArc has lots of resources for you - most are available on the PIPL microsite https://trustarc.com/china-pipl/.They also discussed K’s brief experience at the IAPP PSR 2021 in San Diego, CCPA developments, and enforcement actions.Join us for Paul’s reading recommendations for two great books: the first one is part of the Future of Privacy Forum's book club this month - Privacy is Hard and seven other myths by Jaap-Henk Hoepman. The second one is There is a War Going On But No One Can See It by Huib Modderkolk. As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Oct 28, 2021 • 46min
Trick or Treat? PIPL is Scary (with Graham Webster)
Send us Fan MailThis week on Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal revisit the Chinese Personal Information Protection Law that goes into effect just a few days after publication of this episode. K and I spoke about this law already in episode 30 of this season, dated 31 August, as well as during our webinar on 15 September. However, questions keep flooding in, so we decided to record a follow up episode. The guidance coming out of China is still limited, although it seems the Cyberspace Administration of China, their main regulator, is starting to publish some explanatory documents. Today, we are joined by Graham Webster. Graham is a Research Scholar at the Stanford Cyber Policy Center, as well as Editor in Chief of the university’s DigiChina website, a great resource providing lots of translations of China’s digital laws and policy documents. He is an expert on issues at the intersection of U.S.–China relations and advanced technology, and we are very happy he is joining us today.In addition, please keep in mind that TrustArc has lots of resources for you - most are available on the PIPL microsite https://trustarc.com/china-pipl/ and include the previous webinar, a whitepaper, FAQs, the prior podcast and other valuable information. PLUS - the next webinar on November 9 - register now.As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Oct 20, 2021 • 36min
Monster Cookies: Privacy Issues in Advertising
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal connect with Jocelyn Paulley, Partner at Gowling WLG in London and Lindsey Schultz, Senior Counsel at Global Privacy for Visa. This episode is a preview of a session that Jocelyn, Lindsey, and K are presenting on along with Chris Oates, a partner at Gowling WLG in Toronto on Privacy Compliance in the AdTech Industry at the Association of Corporate Counsel's Annual meeting of 2021.Increasingly, advertising is going digital and being tailored to the viewer to increase conversion rates which necessitates the processing and sharing of vast amounts of personal data by the parties involved in getting an ad to the consumer. We will look at the privacy issues arising from a personal data test case from a European, Canadian, and US perspective, where regulators have this industry under the microscope and draft regulations could further tighten use of cookie and pixel technologies.Join us as we discuss cookies, profiling, and other fascinating aspects of advertising. If you have comments or feedback, please let us know via email or connect with us on LinkedIn for Serious Privacy or on Twitter @PodcastPrivacy, @EuroPaulB, @HeartofPrivacy, @TrustArc. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Oct 6, 2021 • 38min
FISA, so hot right now (with Caroline Lynch)
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal hosted Carolin Lynch, the founder and owner of Copper Hill Strategies, has fifteen years of experience on the U.S. Capitol Hill, including a decade with the House Judiciary Committee where she served for eight years as the Chief Counsel of the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations. As Chief Counsel, Caroline was at the forefront of developing some of the most high-profile privacy, cybersecurity, national security, and criminal laws of the 21st Century. She authored dozens of pieces of legislation and developed strategies to successfully shepherd those bills through Congress. Caroline is also a member of the Arizona Advisory Committee of the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition.The topic? U.S. government surveillance activities. Join us as we discuss this sensitive topic that underpins the invalidation of the EU-US Privacy Shield and is the root problem of the infamous Schrems II decision by the Court of Justice of the European Union in July 2020.As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Sep 29, 2021 • 48min
42 is the answer: Privacy at Home (with Tim Foley)
Send us Fan MailThis week on Serious Privacy, K Royal presents her vacation episode. You’ve had to wait for it a little while, because of all the recent news and developments, but here it is: privacy at home. K has a long conversation with her husband, Tim Foley, about how living with a privacy professional has influenced their life together, as well as the education of K’s children. Furthermore, they talk about passwords, movies and series that involve privacy and much more. Oh, and we have some special four legged guests joining the conversation every now and then. That’s what you get when recording from home...As a reminder, a few weeks ago we released Paul’s vacation episode, a conversation with the DPO of the International Committee of the Red Cross.As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion.ResourcesMovies That Can Help You Understand Data Privacy and Hacking - CPO MagazineMost Popular Movies and TV Shows tagged with keyword "privacy" - IMDbThe Complete List of Hacker And Cybersecurity MoviesMost Common Passwords of 2021Password and email breach check: www.haveibeenpwned.com If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Sep 22, 2021 • 44min
Privacy Open Market: Consumers Controlling Data (Markus Lampinen)
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal discuss another fascinating privacy enhancing technology (PET) where individuals control their personal data. Yes, individuals control it. We met with Markus Lampinen, the co-founder and CEO of Prifina, which focuses on building an open data market, where individuals gain value from their data and developers get democratized data access.Developers are able to work with large amounts of data, such as that from personal wearable devices, without storing the actual data themselves. That is possible, because all data would be stored in private, personal data clouds owned by individuals. This approach, or similar, has been discussed for years. Can it really work, with only local processing being available? Is privacy an open-market? Is it too late to reclaim our privacy? Markus will be able to tell us all about this - and more. To learn more about Prifina, please see these two resources:Harvard article: user-held data framework And another arguing for personal data to be treated as personal propertyAs always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Sep 15, 2021 • 48min
Quite Magical: All About NOYB (with Romain Robert)
Send us Fan MailOn this week of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal connect with Romain Robert, is the program director and a senior lawyer for noyb, actively participating in their research and litigation strategy. Romain is also a member of the litigation chamber of the Belgian Data Protection Authority and previously worked as legal advisor for both the Belgian DPA and European Data Protection Supervisor. The name Max Schrems should be familiar. And also noyb - an acronym for None Of Your Business - probably sounds familiar. Noyb is the consumer rights group founded by Max Schrems. Based in Vienna, this data protection watchdog likes to put major topics on the plate of the data protection authorities. From forced consent to shady cookie banners, and from advertising in dating apps to international transfers. Learn what noyb is - and what it is not.(They are also hiring…)Join us as we discuss the noyb cookie banner project, membership in this entity, and several key enforcement actions, such as locatemyfamily.com and Rocketreach. We also touch on the class action case from The Privacy Collective, and the Protonmail case order. As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Sep 8, 2021 • 39min
Evil Bots Begone: Anonymity via SSO
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal meet up with humanID, a non-profit and open source project, supported by Mozilla and Harvard University. Looking at their website, this is a great example of privacy by design and PET (privacy enhancing technology). Our guests, Bastien Purrer and Namik Muduroglu, are working on a solution they claim offers “an anonymous, bot-resistant authentication for safer online communities.” Why? So people can engage in open, honest debate on topics of their choice, free from the influence of bots or people with multiple accounts.Driven by the ideals of a free society - one person, one vote - Human ID seeks to put people on equal footing. This also serves to allow people to debate without perhaps impacting their jobs. Human ID is a start-up, so they are new and staffed entirely by volunteers at this point. Their SSO capability verifies and anonymizes users. Listen and then let us know what you think.As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Aug 31, 2021 • 38min
Spicy Privacy: Understanding the China PIPL
Send us Fan MailOn this week of Serious Privacy, Paul Breitbarth and K Royal discuss the new China Personal Information Protection Law (PIPL) that was adopted on 20 August. This new omnibus data protection law will enter into force on 1 November 2021, without a transition period to comply. 73 days between adoption and entry into force is a very short deadline for compliance, especially for a wide-ranging and complex law such as the PIPL. Although many details remain unclear for the time being, during this week’s episode, your hosts will try to guide you through the main characteristics of the new Chinese data protection law. TrustArc will soon make further resources, including a white paper, available via a special microsite at TrustArc.com (select Solutions > Solutions by Regulations > PIPL Compliance Solutions). We also welcome any specific questions you may have on the China PIPL for a future episode of Serious Privacy. Please note that K and Paul recorded this a week before publishing, so there are quite a few items that have since been researched and nuanced excellently outside this episode.In the meantime, we can already refer you to the following blogs:China Personal Information Protection Law AdoptedGetting Started with PIPL ComplianceA webinar will be announced shortly. The registration link will become available here: https://trustarc.com/resource_types/webinars/. As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at seriousprivacy@trustarc.com. In addition, if you like our podcast, please do rate and comment on our program in your favorite podcast app. We also have a LinkedIn page for Serious Privacy, so please follow for more in-depth discussion. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.

Aug 25, 2021 • 38min
Kicking SaaS (with Jennee Devore and Rosemary Kuperberg)
Send us Fan MailGone are the days when you had to line up at a physical store to purchase a set of disks with the latest software. Nowadays, you just go to an online app store and download what you need, or even easier: just subscribe via a website and start using the software in your computer browser: Software as a Service, or SaaS. And that is exactly what Paul and K are talking about today. K will soon be speaking on a panel for the Association of Corporate Counsel 2021 Annual Meeting, together with other in-house counsels like Jennee Devore and Rosemary Kuperberg. The topic is "The Fine Art of Kicking SaaS". Given the scope of this large topic, the speakers will not be able to cover everything during their presentation, but the combination of expertise of this group with their extraordinary hands-on experience seemed a natural fit for the podcast. Certainly, we will not cover the webinar materials per se, but have more of an open conversation about SaaS services, how they've grown, and how they have been impacted by recent events. If you have comments or questions, find us on LinkedIn and Instagram @seriousprivacy, and on BlueSky under @seriousprivacy.eu, @europaulb.seriousprivacy.eu, @heartofprivacy.bsky.app and @igrobrien.seriousprivacy.eu, and email podcast@seriousprivacy.eu. Rate and Review us! From Season 6, our episodes are edited by Fey O'Brien. Our intro and exit music is Channel Intro 24 by Sascha Ende, licensed under CC BY 4.0. with the voiceover by Tim Foley.


