

Dwell Differently
Natalie Abbott & Vera Schmitz
If you were our friend, and if we could look you in the eyes and see your struggles and know you fully, and if we could only give you ONE thing—we'd give you God’s Word. There is more power and love and truth in one verse than in a thousand other words. So, let us help you memorize God's words in a simple, easy way. We hope you'll love listening in while we chat about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives.
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Jun 5, 2024 • 20min
James 1:27 Deep Dive // Take the Ice Plunge of Obedience
“God has done so much for us in Christ Jesus, and it is beautiful and it is wonderful, and it should change the way we live out our faith—both externally and internally."— Natalie AbbottToday, Natalie Abbott talks about how the book of James is like an ice plunge—a wake-up call for us to live out our faith. And James 1:27 (our memory verse) is where the rubber meets the road, calling us to consider both the external and internal expression of our beliefs. She discusses who modern-day orphans and widows are and how caring for them is a reflection of the heart of God. She also challenges how we think about the world and its priorities and practices, calling us not to be lured into those things. In all of this, she confesses her own failures and calls us to consider our own. It's a great episode, the very ice plunge we need!This month’s memory verse: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." — James 1:27Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.Want to help others find our show? The best way to support our show is to help other people find it by leaving a rating or, even better, a review!Links from today's show:Free resources to memorize James 1:22 Free Devotional ResourcesSign up for our email list!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

May 29, 2024 • 25min
God's Word: The Off-Ramp We Need for Negative Thinking
"These are not just good words, these are powerful, true, universe-creating words that you are speaking into your soul...these words have the power to completely transform your life. We believe that. We've experienced that." — Vera SchmitzOn today's episode, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz are talking about their new book Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God's Truth. They discuss how sometimes we get stuck in thought paths that are so consistent and repetitive it's like those paths have become superhighways—and we need an off-ramp. God's Word is that off-ramp! In today's discussion, they talk about the significance of memorizing God's truth, the verses that speak most to them from the book, and the fact that God himself is the one who works to transform us through the power of his Word.Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Did you love today’s episode?: Help other people find our podcast by leaving a rating or even better, a review. Links from today's show:We'd love to teach you more verses! Order your copy of Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth today! It comes with lock screens, downloadable coloring sheets, and each chapter has its own podcast episode. Check out Overcome: The Dwell Differently Book PodcastFree devotional resourcesSign up for our email listSupport the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

May 22, 2024 • 35min
Let God’s Word Be the Thing That Remains // Courtney Doctor
“The words that we speak simply are revealing what’s already there—they’re not making it, they’re not creating it, they’re just the thing that spills over.” — Courtney DoctorJoin Natalie Abbott and Courtney Doctor as they discuss how what we say reveals what’s going on inside us, how seeing the ugliness within us come out can sometimes be a gift, and how Jesus enables us to be people with transformed hearts and good that spills out. God himself is our ultimate good and the one who bears good fruit in us, and we know him through his Word. Let’s be people who let God’s Word be the thing that remains.This month's memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45a Today's guest: Courtney Doctor received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary and currently serves as the Director of Women’s Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. She is a Bible teacher and author of several Bible studies including From Garden to Glory, In View of God’s Mercies, and Behold and Believe. You can connect with Courtney on Instagram or through her website.Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word. Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse. Did you love today's episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show? Links from today's show: Get to know Courtney Doctor and find her resources.Natalie and Vera wrote a book! Order your copy of Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth today!Join us at TGCW24 in June.Listen to Courtney Doctor’s previous episode on the Dwell Differently podcast.Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

May 15, 2024 • 23min
What Are You Consuming?
“Memorizing Scripture…actually stores up the good thing in my heart. The only good things I have are from the Lord. The only good in me is from the Lord….Any goodness that I perform or any kindness that I have first comes from a truth that I’m believing about God or about myself.” — Vera SchmitzWhat are you filling your mind and heart with these days? Join Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk honestly about their own struggles, encouraging us to be intentional with what we’re storing up in our hearts. Find out what Vera’s been memorizing from God’s Word to fill her mind with goodness and truth, and what you can do if you feel like things are out of control in your life. There’s so much good for us in Luke 6:45a—we can’t wait for you to join us in allowing Jesus’s words to change our lives!This month’s memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45aMemorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.Did you love today’s episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show?Links from today's show:Natalie and Vera wrote a book! Order your copy of Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth today!Free Devotional ResourcesSign up for our email list!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

May 8, 2024 • 38min
God's Word Pulled Me Through // Jennifer Dukes Lee
“We have that ability—we can take God’s Word and when it’s ingrained in us we can just take it and pick it up and pray it over ourselves and pray it over our loved ones.” — Jennifer Dukes LeeToday, Jennifer Dukes Lee joins Natalie Abbott to talk about Luke 6:45a, and you won't want to miss it. Jennifer talks vulnerably about how God has met and sustained her and her family in hard seasons through his Word. She encourages us to love our future selves by investing right now in knowing and loving God—banking up deposits by reading and memorizing his Word. She relates how God brings his Word back to mind and uses it to transform us in hard seasons. He is our good, and he alone can give us the good we are longing for.This month’s memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45aToday's guest: Jennifer Dukes Lee is the bestselling author of several books, including Growing Slow, It’s All Under Control, and Stuff I’d Only Tell God. She’s a fan of queso, bright lipstick, and singing too loudly to songs with great harmony. She lives on a fifth-generation family farm in Iowa, where she and her husband have made a life of growing crops, pigs, two beautiful humans, and an enduring faith.Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.Did you love today’s episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show?Links from today's show:Get to know Jennifer Dukes LeeNatalie and Vera wrote a book! Preorder your copy of Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth today!Philippians 1:3 Locket NecklaceFree Devotional ResourcesSign up for our email list!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

May 1, 2024 • 20min
Luke 6:45a Deep Dive // It's Time to Take Inventory
“What you store up in your heart—either good or bad—has a real effect in your life. And the good things that come out of your heart, or the bad things, are the result of what you’re putting inside of you. So here’s the thing: we can know what’s going on inside of us by evaluating what’s coming out of us.” — Natalie AbbottHave you ever said something and been shocked by what came out of your mouth, or maybe even how you said it? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she unpacks Jesus's words in Luke 6, helping us see the diagnostic questions he was asking. Listen in as Natalie walks through what Jesus is asking us to take inventory of in our hearts and lives, looking at how we might be blind to our own sin, how we might be expecting to get good things from a bad source, and offering hope for all of us who long to be a person who has goodness of Christ coming out of our heart.This month’s memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45aMemorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.Did you love today’s episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show?Links from today's show:Natalie and Vera wrote a book! Preorder your copy of Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth today!Free Devotional ResourcesSign up for our email list!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

Apr 24, 2024 • 39min
How to Share Your Faith // Mike Grenier
“God invites us to participate in what we’re seeing there in Ezekiel 36 and 37. It’s not that we’re making this heart of stone into a heart of flesh—God’s the actor. It’s not that we’re making these dry bones come alive—God’s doing that. But he invites us to be a part of that. That is an incredible privilege and it’s exciting.” — Mike GrenierIf you're honest, do you ever feel like you should want to share the gospel more than you do, or that you just don't quite know how to talk about Jesus in a natural way? If so, you’ll love this conversation with Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and Mike Grenier as they talk about the implications our verse has on how we think about evangelism, and the 4 practical steps Mike offers for sharing your faith:Don’t be afraid to share with people what you’re really enjoying about your faith and why Jesus is beautiful.Ask questions. Be really interested in people as people, not as projects.Don’t underestimate the impact of real-life hospitality.Don’t be afraid to take risks. Don’t wait. God’s at work and he can take imperfect words and do great things with them.Let’s bring the hope of the gospel to the people in our lives who, like us, need someone to tell them about the God who gives new hearts and new spirits!This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26Today's guest: Mike Grenier is an IT Manager with TE Connectivity. He and his wife, Emily, and their three kids live in Harrisburg, PA, where they're members of Community Evangelical Free Church. Mike serves in various ways at his church, and loves to help those unfamiliar with the Christian faith grapple with the big questions of life and introduce them to Jesus.Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.Did you love today’s episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show?Links from today's show:Ezekiel 36:26 Deep Dive // This Verse Has Been Following Me AroundFree Devotional ResourcesSign up for our email list!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

Apr 17, 2024 • 21min
Vera's Salvation Story
“When you get to the end of yourself and you’re truly honest with yourself, and then you hear this, and you hear that God comes right then with the promises, ‘I’ll give you a new heart and put my spirit in you,’ that is so good.” — Vera SchmitzWe can be tempted to think we just need to be “cleaned up” before coming to Jesus, but our verse this month helps us see the amazing truth about a God who does far more than just clean things up—he brings dead things to life. Join Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk about the deep hope of Ezekiel 36:26. Hear Vera’s salvation story, what to do when you feel like your heart is stone cold, and the beauty of the gospel that is on offer for all!This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.Did you love today’s episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show?Links from today's show:Ezekiel 36:26 Teaching EpisodeFree Devotional ResourcesSign up for our email list!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

Apr 10, 2024 • 36min
True Transformation // Nicole Zasowski
"The very thing that we most deeply need as human beings we can’t actually do for ourselves. It’s the work of God in us.” — Natalie AbbottWhat do you do when you find yourself not caring spiritually, when your heart feels cold toward God? What does it look like to have a heart that is soft toward the Lord? Join Natalie Abbott and Nicole Zasowski as they dig into how Ezekiel 36:26 continues to impact the lives of God’s people. They share practical hope for what to do when our hearts feel calloused, how to grab hold of what is true in times of struggle, and personal stories of God’s transforming work in their lives. We were so encouraged by this conversation and know you will be too!This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26 Today's guest: Nicole Zasowski is a licensed marriage and family therapist, sought-after speaker, and author of What If It's Wonderful? and From Lost to Found. She lives in Connecticut with her husband and three young children. Nicole would love to connect with you on her website: www.nicolezasowski.com or on Instagram: @nicolezasowski. Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word. Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse. Did you love today’s episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show? Links from today's show:Learn more about Nicole Zasowski and her resources.Follow Nicole on Instagram.Grab your FREE Dwell Differently digital kit for Mark 9:24b!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

Apr 3, 2024 • 19min
Ezekiel 36:26 Deep Dive // This Verse Has Been Following Me Around
“God has given us his own Spirit, and that’s how as believers we are able, by the power of the Holy Spirit, to follow him and to do what is right. But so often, we don’t. And that’s where this verse has been following me around. This verse has been convicting my heart where it’s hard and convicting my spirit where it’s unwilling and not wanting to follow the Holy Spirit who is in me and to listen to his voice and his guidance.” — Natalie AbbottHave you ever read a Bible verse that just keeps ringing in your ears in the best possible way? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she helps us understand the context of this month’s memory verse, highlighting the depth of its beauty as we zoom out to see the big picture story of Scripture, how this verse fits into that story, and finally how this verse fits into the stories of our lives. This amazing promise that God gave Israel is good news for our hearts today as well.This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell Differently’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos or stickers, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.Did you love today’s episode?: We’d love to hear about it! Would you leave a rating or review in your podcast player to help others find the show?Links from today's show:Free Devotional ResourcesSign up for our email list!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.


