

Political Climate
Political Climate
Political Climate delivers an insider’s view on the most pressing questions in energy and climate. Through biweekly analysis and debate, the podcast explores the nuances of how policy and politics are shaping the energy transition in the U.S. and around the world.
Political Climate goes beyond partisan echo chambers to bring you insider scoops and authentic conversations with voices from across the political spectrum – all with a healthy dose of wit. Tune in every other Monday with hosts Julia Pyper, Neil Chatterjee, and Brandon Hurlbut along with influential and insightful guests.
Political Climate goes beyond partisan echo chambers to bring you insider scoops and authentic conversations with voices from across the political spectrum – all with a healthy dose of wit. Tune in every other Monday with hosts Julia Pyper, Neil Chatterjee, and Brandon Hurlbut along with influential and insightful guests.
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Aug 21, 2018 • 24min
Senator Heinrich's 100% Clean Energy Vision
Senator Martin Heinrich believes a 100 percent clean energy electric grid is within reach during his lifetime. There will be technical challenges to overcome, but it’s “completely doable,” he said, in an exclusive interview with Political Climate.This week marks the launch of Senator Heinrich’s “Clean Energy Vision,” a part of his re-election campaign for this fall. The ad and supporting document outline a multi-pronged approach for strengthening New Mexico's clean energy economy — including investments in energy storage, wind and solar, transmission lines and workforce development.The plan doesn’t explicitly call for a 100 percent clean energy grid, but “clearly stating that the grid should be 100 percent clean energy is so important, because people need an idea to rally around,” said Heinrich.In this special episode, the senator describes his Clean Energy Vision, and how he intends to make that vision a reality in these highly partisan times.Recommended reading:
Martin's Clean Energy Vision
GTM: Senator Heinrich: A 100% Clean Energy Grid Is ‘Completely Doable’
Albuquerque Business First: See where NM's headed on oil and renewables
Heller, Heinrich Introduce Bipartisan Bill to Establish Investment Tax Credit For Energy Storage
Alaska Public Media: Energy bill fails; Murkowski blames House
GTM: Your Guide to the Bitter Debate Over 100% Renewable Energy
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Aug 17, 2018 • 55min
Too Alarmist? Not Alarmist Enough?
Are people who care about climate change downplaying the issue under social and political pressure? Has their alarmism been too muted? Or has the outcry become so loud that it's drowning out the possibility of collective action? The jury is out. In this episode of Political Climate, we tackle a difficult question posed by a listener on the severity of the climate threat and the appropriate policy response. Amy Harder, energy and climate reporter for Axios, joins us to discuss. But first we revisit the Democratic National Committee. The DNC has decided to once again accept donations from fossil fuel interests. The move comes just two months after the committee adopted a separate resolution banning donations from political action committees tied to coal, oil and gas companies. The reversal has spurred a debate among Democrats on matching up policies and values. We also discuss the Kigali Amendment — a global climate agreement that key U.S. industry players, and many Republicans, are urging President Trump to ratify. Recommended reading:
GTM: Fossil Fuel Dollars and Democrats
Huffington Post: Democratic National Committee Backtracks On Its Ban Of Fossil Fuel Donations
Axios: Trump clashes with business on Obama-era climate treaty
NYT: Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
NYT: Science Alone Won’t Save the Earth. People Have to Do That.
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Aug 6, 2018 • 47min
LIVE: 'What's So Upsetting?'
Political tribalism has created gridlock on climate policy — even more so than the polarization on climate science — according to a new peer-reviewed study.If that’s the case, is there any hope of action any time soon? Tensions are running high. It’s officially less than 100 days until the 2018 midterm election. Democrats are angry and hell-bent on taking back Congress. Republicans are fighting to keep it. Will climate change even be on the election agenda? We discuss in this episode, recorded live at the Sun Valley Forum in Ketchum, Idaho. For this show, the Political Climate co-hosts were joined David Crane, the former CEO of NRG Energy, who argued that too many corporations are still “sitting on the sidelines” when it comes to ditching fossil fuels. We also addressed the Trump administration’s proposed freeze on fuel economy standards for cars and trucks, and threat to revoke California’s clean-air waiver. Recommended reading:
NYT: Actually, Republicans Do Believe in Climate Change
GreenBiz: My three wishes for America
E&E: Meet the other Republican who wants a carbon tax
Politico: Kochs blow up their détente with Trump
WAPO: Trump administration to freeze fuel-efficiency standards and fight states
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Jul 25, 2018 • 60min
Millennials Seek Bipartisan Action on Climate
What does the rise of millennials mean for climate action? Will this plugged-in generation make climate change a priority? Can they find common ground between liberals and conservatives to solve this issue collectively?Millennials are on the brink of becoming the largest generation in America. That means they will have an enormous impact on U.S. politics in the years ahead. In fact, they’re having an impact on politics already.In this episode of Political Climate we talk to millennials who are channeling their concerns about climate change into action — inclusive and bipartisan action.We speak to Benji Backer, president and founder of the American Conservation Coalition, a nonprofit focused on rallying young conservatives around environmental policy reform; and to Lydia Avila, executive director of the Power Shift Network, an organization working to mobilize the collective power of young people to mitigate climate change and create a just, clean energy future.But first, we address the latest climate news from Capitol Hill: Congressman Carlos Curbelo’s new carbon tax bill, and a House resolution denouncing the idea of a carbon tax altogether.Just how hopeful for climate action can Americans be?Recommended reading:
Guardian: Republican lawmaker pitches carbon tax in defiance of party stance
Inside Climate: House Votes to Denounce Carbon Taxes. Where Was the Climate Solutions Caucus?
GTM: Reading Republicans on Climate a Decade After America’s Cap-and-Trade Collapse
Teen Vogue: Pennsylvania Gubernatorial Candidate Scott Wagner Called Me “Young and Naive”
Pew: Millennials projected to overtake Baby Boomers as America’s largest generation
American Conservation Coalition
Power Shift Network
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Jul 11, 2018 • 1h 13min
Top EPA Official Talks Policy Post Pruitt
Scott Pruitt is officially out at the Environmental Protection Agency. Former coal lobbyist Andrew Wheeler has stepped in as acting administrator. What does this mean for U.S. climate policy?We asked a top EPA official. In this episode, Mandy Gunasekara, principal deputy assistant administrator at the EPA Office of Air and Radiation, joins us in-studio to discuss the agency's priorities in the wake of the leadership shake-up. Gunasekara weighs in on replacing the Clean Power Plan and vehicle fuel economy standards -- two of President Obama's signature policies to combat climate change. We ask how the current EPA squares its deregulatory agenda with the mandate to protect public health and the environment. We also tackle ongoing controversies, unrelated to Pruitt's personal scandals. Democratic co-host Brandon Hurlbut challenges Gunasekara on the EPA's treatment of climate science, while Republican co-host Shane Skelton raises issues with the Renewable Fuel Standard. As always, we end on a bipartisan note in our "Say Something Nice" segment.Recommended Reading:
GTM: Scott Pruitt Resigns; EPA Deregulation Poised to Continue
BNA: Senate Aide Named a Top Adviser to EPA Head on Climate, Clean Air
Inside Climate: In Rebuke to Pruitt, EPA Science Board Votes to Review Climate Policy Changes
Bloomberg: Trump to Hit Refiners With Biofuels Boost
Des Moines Register: Iowa political leaders cheer EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt's resignation
Wash Post: Rollback of auto mileage standards advances to White House, bringing conflict with California closer
NYT: How Trump’s Policy Decisions Undermine the Industries He Pledged to Help
CNN: Woman confronts Scott Pruitt at a restaurant, urges him to resign
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Jun 20, 2018 • 60min
Fossil Fuel Dollars and Democrats
The Democratic National Committee recently decided to no longer accept campaign donations from fossil fuel companies. The move signals the party’s commitment to addressing climate change. But could blocking contributions from oil, gas and coal companies end up hurting Democrats in the midterm election?We discuss the new DNC policy with RL Miller, political director at Climate Hawks Vote, chair of the California Democratic Party’s environmental caucus, and a co-author of the resolution.Before that, we answer a listener’s question about the influence of billionaire conservative activists Charles and David Koch. Did Republicans start to resist climate action because of the Koch brothers' involvement? We also check in on the non-partisan, non-profit Citizens' Climate Lobby, which met with members of Congress last week to advocate for a price on carbon. One participant admits progress is slow, but insists the dialogue is valuable. To kick off the show, we briefly circle back on the Climate Solutions Caucus, bipartisan group of lawmakers seeking to advance climate change policies. Several Republican members recently voted against valuing carbon in environmental regulations. Is the Caucus a sham?Recommended reading:
HuffPost: DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations
NYT: How G.O.P. Leaders Came to View Climate Change as Fake Science
GTM: Conservative Groups Come Out Against the Suniva, SolarWorld Trade Case
E&E News: Here’s how one group pitches a carbon tax to the GOP
Washington Examiner: House GOP blocks Obama-era rules on cost of climate change
Subscribe to the Political Climate podcast via Apple Podcasts, Google Play, TuneIn, Overcast and Stitcher. Look out for us soon on Spotify!Follow Political Climate on Twitter @Poli_Climate.

Jun 5, 2018 • 38min
The Hypocritical Politics of Gas Prices
Gas prices are always a hot-button political issue, and especially in an election year.In the latest showdown, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer blames a spike in gas prices on President Trump’s “reckless decision” to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal.Republicans say these claims are insincere. If Democrats are so worried about high gas prices, why do they oppose oil drilling in the U.S. and support increasing gas taxes?We’ve seen this play out before. When President Obama was in office, Republicans placed the blame for high gas prices squarely on the Democrats — and used cherrypicked statements from then Energy Secretary Steven Chu to help make their case.In this week’s episode we tackle the hypocritical politics of gas prices. We also discuss the Pope’s upcoming climate summit with leading oil companies.To kick it all off, we weigh in on a leaked memo with new details on the Trump administration’s unprecedented efforts to bail out struggling coal and nuclear plants. Is this an abuse of power?Recommended reading:
GTM: DOE Plans to Order Guaranteed Profits for Coal, Nuclear Power Plants
Axios: Pope convenes Big Oil, investors to talk climate change
The Hill: Senate Democrats look for traction on gas prices
Rolling Stone: What President Obama Should Have Said About High Gas Prices
NY Mag: Higher Gas Prices a Headache for GOP — Except in California
The Verge: Three US states will spend $1.3 billion to build more electric vehicle charging
Subscribe to the Political Climate podcast via Apple Podcasts, Google Play, TuneIn and Stitcher. Look out for us soon on Spotify!Follow Political Climate on Twitter @Poli_Climate.Correction: Rebecca Schenker, who submitted news topics for the "Constituent Services" segment of this show, is a transportation planner with the LADOT. This episode incorrectly referred to her as the head of transportation planning at the LADOT. We regret the error.

May 29, 2018 • 59min
The 2018 Election Preview
There are a lot of questions swirling around the 2018 midterm election — including how energy and climate issues will play into this broader political moment.Can pro-climate Republicans hold on to their seats in Congress? Will Democratic candidates with cleantech industry experience win over voters? Could the outcome of Nevada’s Senate race affect how the nation deals with nuclear waste?Then there’s California and Texas, the nation’s leading clean energy states, where the results of this year’s election could determine which political party controls Congress in 2019.In this election preview show we discuss several key races where energy and climate issues are expected to be major factors. To up the ante, Political Climate co-hosts Shane Skelton and Brandon Hurlbut make a friendly election wager. As always, we end with our segment "If you can't say something nice," where our Republican and Democratic representatives have to say something they recently found redeeming about the opposing party.Recommended reading:
Popular Mechanics: NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine: "I Believe Fully In Climate Change"
Think Progress: Progressive candidates are embracing clean energy as a campaign issue
Time: Can Beto O'Rourke Turn Texas Blue?
Florida Politics: Committee touts Carlos Curbelo’s climate change record in new ad
PV Magazine: Republicans request utility-scale solar panel tariff exemption
Mother Jones: California’s “Jungle Primary” Could Turn Democrats’ Enthusiasm Into a Fiasco
SF Chronicle: California and climate change: Jerry Brown’s would-be successors make plans
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May 4, 2018 • 60min
LIVE: 'The Only Way to Save Ourselves'
Republicans are often viewed as enemies of the clean energy transition. Some people believe the GOP will never embrace climate action. So is voting them out the only way to save the planet?If you ask environmental policy pioneer Terry Tamminen, the solution isn’t that simple. As Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s pick to lead the California EPA, Tamminen found ways to craft ambitious clean energy policies and programs with buy-in from both Democrats and Republicans. In his current role as CEO of the Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation, Tamminen is working to advance sustainability solutions across the country and around the world. In this episode of Political Climate, recorded live at GTM’s Solar Summit, we talk to Tamminen about why it’s important to get Republicans on board with the climate change agenda. Even if it means avoiding the words "climate change" altogether.We also discuss why Democrats are rallying around a 100 percent renewable energy target, when it has yet to be proven technically feasible. Plus, we talk about California's clash with Washington D.C. over fuel economy standards and whether philanthropy is proving we don't need to spend taxpayer dollars on fighting climate change.Recommended reading:
Terry Tamminen: Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation
LDF: Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation awards $20 million in environmental grants
GTM: Solar and Wind Companies Spend More on Republican Candidates Than Democrats
GTM: Mark Jacobson Drops Lawsuit Against Critics of His 100% Renewables Plan
NYT: California Sues Trump Administration Over Car Emissions Rules
BBC: Michael Bloomberg pledges $4.5m for Paris deal
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Apr 27, 2018 • 52min
Winners and Losers in Trump's America
President Trump is considering the use of a Cold War-era defense act to shore up struggling coal and nuclear power plants, something the administration argues is essential to U.S. national security. But critics say this is the government picking winners and losers for political purposes. Republicans repeatedly slammed President Obama for investing taxpayer dollars in clean energy technologies during his tenure. Obama even invoked the Defense Production Act, the same law Trump is looking to use, to justify testing biofuels in the Navy. Was he picking winners and losers too? Or was he investing in the next generation of American competitiveness?In this episode of Political Climate we debate who is picking favorites in the energy space, and how solar was a loser in the roll out of Trump’s protectionist trade agenda.We also touch on the unusually tight Arizona special election, where Democrat Hiral Tipirneni came within a few points of upsetting Republican Debbie Lesko in a deep red district. Did the candidates’ views on climate change play a role in the outcome? Next, we discuss the bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus, which recently added two new members. Does the group represent an honest effort to combat climate change? Or is it political greenwashing?In our final section, “If you can’t say something nice,” our Republican and Democrat co-hosts share something they recently found redeeming about the opposing party. Recommended reading:
AZ Central: Here's where West Valley congressional candidates stand on climate change
Citizens’ Climate Lobby: What is the Climate Solutions Caucus?
Bloomberg: Trump's Latest Plan for Saving Coal Comes From the Cold War
GTM: The Trumpian Politics Behind SunPower’s Planned Purchase of SolarWorld USA
GTM: New Bipartisan Legislation Would Repeal Trump’s Solar Tariffs
Time 100: Scott Pruitt
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