The New Evangelicals Podcast

Hosted by Tim Whitaker
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May 11, 2026 • 50min

429. The Empathy Paradigm

In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages with Anna Clark Miller, a counselor and author of 'For God's Sake, Recovering from Religious Trauma,' shares her journey through high-control religion, the impact of spiritual abuse, and pathways to healing. Discover practical advice for navigating faith recovery, understanding empathy's role, and recognizing the influence of religious trauma on mental health. Learn more about Anna | Empathyparadigm.com Chapters 02:54 Understanding Spiritual Abuse 08:54 Navigating Trust and Community 12:03 The Role of Worship in Healing 18:02 Curiosity as a Tool for Recovery 21:07 Self-Compassion and Judgment 23:52 Conclusion and Resources ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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May 4, 2026 • 50min

428. How to Overcome Religious Trauma

In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages with psychotherapist SC Neely about her new book 'Healing Sacred Wounds' and explores religious and spiritual trauma, its impact on mental health, and pathways to healing. They discuss how childhood religious environments shape adult beliefs, the neurological effects of trauma, and practical steps for recovery. SC Nealy's Website | ⁠Lgbtcounselingdmv.com⁠ Chapters 05:55 The Impact of High Control Religions 12:08 Navigating Parenting and Religion 23:20 Navigating Trauma and Resilience 28:59 Building Healthy Relationships and Community 37:42 From Victim to Survivor: Redefining Identity 43:44 LGBTQ+ Counseling and Community Support ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 27, 2026 • 50min

427. A Rabbi Speaks to Christians

Rabbi Sandra Lawson, a rabbi and civil-rights leader known for interfaith advocacy and combating antisemitism, shares her journey and work. She explains core Jewish texts and identity. Conversation covers the rise of white nationalism, dangers of media narratives, building Jewish-Christian coalitions, grassroots civic action, and practical steps to confront bias and defend democracy.
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Apr 20, 2026 • 58min

426. Meet the Skeptic Pastor of Not Church

In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Jeremy Steele, aka The Skeptic Pastor. Jeremy shares his journey from evangelical roots to a more open, inclusive spiritual community. He discusses deconstruction, the power of rituals, and how his online community 'Not Church' models a new way of spiritual connection beyond traditional boundaries. Chapters 13:32 The Evolution of Beliefs and Spirituality 16:54 Navigating Deconstruction and Reconstruction 22:32 Exploring the Not Church Community 26:47 Exploring the Digital Not Church Community 32:28 Building Bridges Across Beliefs 36:43 The Importance of Embodied Community 39:01 Rituals for Heretics: Reclaiming Spiritual Practices 47:00 Navigating Identity and Tradition 52:22 The Neuroscience of Spiritual Practices ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 13, 2026 • 1h 14min

425. Judaism is More Complicated than You Think

**United Theological Seminary | ⁠https://bit.ly/united-tne⁠ ** ** Apply for the fall 2026 term by July 1** In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Shaul Magid, a Harvard Divinity School professor and expert in modern Jewish studies, shares his journey from post-war America to studying in Israel and becoming a scholar. The conversation explores the history of Judaism, Zionism, and the complex relationship between Christianity and Judaism, offering nuanced perspectives on faith, identity, and interfaith dialogue. Chapters 03:24 Shaul's Journey and Academic Background 19:06 Judaism as Ethnicity vs. Religion 30:50 The Evolution of Jewish Zionism 38:38 Zionism: Secularism and Religious Tensions 45:08 The Shifting Dynamics of Evangelical Support for Israel 50:43 Navigating Complex Conversations on Israel and Palestine ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 6, 2026 • 54min

424. Islam 101 with Qasim Rashid

Qasim Rashid, a human rights lawyer and activist who advocates for religious freedom and public education about Islam, gives a clear, approachable primer on Islamic beliefs and history. He tackles Quran preservation, clarifies Sharia and sectarian diversity, discusses extremism versus political misuse, and imagines pluralistic cooperation to protect religious liberty and justice.
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Mar 30, 2026 • 15min

423. Setting the Table for What's Next

In this episode, Malynda Hale reflects on the themes of faith, deconstruction, community, and inclusion, emphasizing the importance of building a more intersectional and inclusive faith community. The discussion highlights the need for honest conversations, healing, and active participation in creating a better future. Chapters 03:05 The Importance of Deconstruction and Healing 05:49 Building Community and Intersectionality 09:11 Setting the Table Together for Inclusivity ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 23, 2026 • 55min

422. Faith Unlynched with Dr. Angela Parker

In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Angela Parker shares her journey as a biblical scholar, her approach to interpreting scripture, and how her work challenges fundamentalist perspectives. She discusses the importance of nuance, historical context, and the Black liberation tradition in understanding the Bible and resisting white Christian nationalism. Chapters 02:09 Dr. Parker's Journey in Biblical Scholarship 06:42 Navigating the Complexity of Biblical Texts 17:01 Faith and Certainty in Biblical Interpretation 26:01 Experiences of Black Women in Academia 35:54 Reframing the Biblical Narrative ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 16, 2026 • 1h 9min

421. The War on Black Women Under Trump

In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Lisa Sharon Harper discusses the urgent need for embodied, community-driven action to combat systemic injustice, particularly the economic targeting of Black women. She shares stories of resilience and emphasizes the importance of faith, local activism, and understanding historical narratives to drive real change. Harper highlights initiatives like "The Clearing" project, which supports Black women, and offers practical steps for moving from digital activism to tangible on-the-ground efforts. Chapters 01:21 The Impact of Policies on Black Women 06:48 Faith and Social Justice  10:34 Community Engagement and Trust Building  14:44 Historical Narratives and Systemic Racism  21:26 Supporting Black Women and Initiatives  27:22 Embodied Action vs. Online Activism  33:05 Resilience and Economic Empowerment  39:35 The Role of Faith in Resistance  45:37 Call to Action and Closing Thoughts ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 9, 2026 • 1h 1min

420. Reclaiming Evangelism from Fundamentalism

In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Blair Trygstad Stowe⁠⁠⁠. She shares her journey as a progressive church pastor and theologian, exploring the history of Christianity, orthodoxy, orthopraxy, evangelism, and the future of faith communities. Discover how her insights challenge traditional views and offer a more inclusive, authentic path for spiritual growth. Chapters 01:09 Blair's Background and Call to Theology 04:25 The Myth of Evangelicalism's Historical Inaccuracy 08:26 Scripture and Its Variations Across Traditions 11:09 Orthodoxy as Right Belief in Tradition 17:46 Church's Role in Social Justice and Community Care 27:26 Encountering Exclusivist Christianity in Youth 30:30 The Power of Worship and Music in Spiritual Formation 43:33 The Process of Incorporation and Faith Evolution 55:38 Spiritual Direction and Embodied Faith Practices ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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