

Word In Your Ear
Mark Ellen, David Hepworth and Alex Gold
Mark Ellen and David Hepworth have been talking about and writing about music together and individually for a collective eighty years in magazines like Smash Hits, Mojo and The Word and on radio and TV programmes like "Rock On", "Whistle Test" and VH-1.Over thirteen years ago, when working on the late magazine The Word, they began producing podcasts. Some listeners have been kind enough to say these have been very special to them. When the magazine folded in 2012 they kept the spirit of those podcasts alive in regular Word In Your Ear evenings in which they spoke to musicians and authors in front of an audience. Over these years they've produced hundreds of hours of material. As of the Current Unpleasantness of 2020, they've produced yet hundreds of hours more with a little help from guests kind enough to digitally show them around their attics such as Danny Baker, Andy Partridge, Sir Tim Rice and Mark Lewisohn. For the full span of the Word In Your Ear world, visit wiyelondon.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Feb 17, 2026 • 35min
Boston, Def Leppard, bad hair & the golden age of rock radio
Paul Rees fell in love with AOR when it began with Boston in 1976, the polished, ramped-up hits that were briefly the music of the American heartland. His book ‘Raised On Radio: Power Ballads, Cocaine & Payola – the AOR Glory Years 1976-1986’ remembers the age when records were launched via car stereos, their eternally appealing sound and the preposterous lives of the people who wrote and played them – Bon Jovi, Pat Benatar, Asia, REO Speedwagon, Don Henley and Toto among them. “It’s happy music,” he points out. “Music that makes you raise a quizzical eyebrow.” In the mix … … the original AOR sound: “Led Zeppelin hard rock with Eagles harmonies and a stratospheric high-tenor voca|” … the absolute power of producers like Mutt Lange (a man raised on radio jingles) … Pat Benatar, the former married bank clerk who wanted to be Robert Plant in a leotard … “AOR stars were all salesmen who talked in quotes” ... the many reasons Don Henley fired people on a whim … Def Leppard’s vision of America built on AOR and cowboy movies … “Chicago and the Tubes never played on their records” … “he ended up butterball-naked in a cocaine threesome sting with two disguised police women” … the producer who had his trout pond realigned as he couldn’t work looking at a garden that wasn’t symmetrical … the story of Toto’s Africa: “tape loops strung round chair-backs and a quick flick through a geography book” … “if this record’s a hit I’ll run naked down Sunset Boulevard”. Order a copy of ‘Raised On Radio: Power Ballads, Cocaine & Payola – the AOR Glory Years 1976-1986’ here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raised-Radio-Paul-Rees/dp/1408721112 Help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 16, 2026 • 1h 4min
Was Bad Bunny at the Superbowl the greatest show ever staged?
After 40 days of relentless rain, you need our little ray of sunshine. And here we all are! Sitting in the rock’n’roll rainbow this week you’ll find … ... the Wuthering Heights instagram gold-rush … licensing Foreigner and Lynyrd Skynyrd: when is a band not a band? .. what Michael Jackson asked the Superbowl promoter … one long video for Charli XCX: “if that film was playing in my back garden I’d draw the curtains” … Bob Dylan & Kurtis Blow, Kate Winslet & ‘Weird Al’ Yankovic: a brief history of weird duets … a walk-on forest, 300 extras, 29 hidden messages: how can you top Bad Bunny? (“Disgusting!” – D Trump) … what a 1969 Rock Encylopedia said about “the poets and minstrels of our time” … “biopics are designed for people who don’t know the subject” ... Paul Anka did Smells Like Teen Spirit? The Flaming Lips did Kylie Minogue? … whippets, flat caps, bottles of stout: begone hoary old Yorkshire clichés! … “that’s the biggest power station in Western Europe – and I know the manager!”: our love for Alan Bennett … plus Top Gear, M*A*S*H, Twins Peaks, Arena (by Brian Eno) and birthday guest Paul Monaghan on great TV theme tunes.Help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 10, 2026 • 32min
Andy Bown remembers the Herd, Judas Jump and 47 years in Status Quo
Andy Bown, veteran musician from The Herd, Judas Jump and 47 years in Status Quo, chats about rediscovering a sci-fi musical he wrote with Russell Hoban. He recalls playing with Bowie, opening for Hendrix, chaotic sessions with Jerry Lee Lewis, Judas Jump’s rise and fall, co-writing Whatever You Want, and how the deep-space love story project was finished and released.

Feb 10, 2026 • 39min
How the album survived and why it satisfies the soul!
The album has had 25 years of being hammered by other formats – Napster, iTunes, Spotify, TikTok – and not only survived but thrived. For Keith Jopling it’s the irreplaceable way to hear music and to measure the people who make it. His new book Body Of Work celebrates its battle-scarred trajectory from the beating heart of pop culture to 21st Century affordable luxury, and stops off at … … growing up in the age of cassettes … his lifelong devotion to a Police album left on his doorstep … Adele’s battle with Spotify to get records played in sequence … how albums are how you calibrate a career, from the Beatles to Taylor Swift … has anyone ever loved a CD the way they love an album? … how parents used to despair of their kids loafing in bedrooms listening to records but now try and persuade them to do it … pictures of equipment: rock porn! … the swingback to Listening Parties and analogue recording … records as shining examples of the packaged goods business … “we need to regain control of our attention” … and the iTunes launch party and why Smashing Pumpkins thought they’d seen the future. Order Body Of Work in the UK here: https://www.roughtrade.com/product/keith-jopling/body-of-work-how-the-album-outplayed-the-algorithm-and-survived-playlist-culture And in the USA here: https://repeaterbooks.com/product/body-of-work-how-the-album-outplayed-the-algorithm-and-survived-playlist-culture/Help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 8, 2026 • 47min
Racy pulp paperbacks, teenage Joni and the BRIT School versus the age of the amateurs
A playful run-through of celebrity baby names and hippie naming tales. A debate on the BRIT School versus the age of amateurs and how musicians used to break in. Tales of American rock acts that never caught on in Britain. Nostalgic love for racy pulp paperbacks and a chat about why some music biographies sing while others fall flat.

Feb 3, 2026 • 39min
David Bowie and the triumph, mystery and struggle of his third act
Bowie’s early years have been scrutinised repeatedly but people tend to speed through the last act, from the early ‘90s to his death in 2016. Alexander Larman’s ‘Lazarus: The Second Coming Of David Bowie’ looks at his resurrection and the mystery of his final days in Manhattan in attractively honest detail, a book that’s as fondly critical of his artistic decisions as it’s celebratory. Under discussion here … … ‘David Bowie was a fictional invention and much of his life an act’ … how wrong so many album reviews turned out to be … “he liked to be liked and he put a lot of effort into being liked” … Eno, Tony Visconti, Nile Rodgers, Pet Shop Boys and his endless search for collaborators … the Lucian Freud incident at the Dorchester … Scott Walker’s taped message: “I see God in the window” ... “he trusted in the idea he was a genius” … the sharp contrast been his public image and private life … how his Lord’s Prayer at the Freddie Mercury tribute was a deliberate attempt to steal the show … the piercing question Tin Machine were asked on ‘Wogan’ … and the struggle to find anything sincere in his interviews. Order ‘Lazarus’ here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lazarus-Second-Coming-David-Bowie/dp/1917923449Help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 2, 2026 • 1h 2min
Days with Bowie, Prince, the Stones, Hendrix & the Clash by David Sinclair
David Sinclair was a long-running rock critic for the Times, Rolling Stone and many others and now makes records himself. He looks back here at some of the first bands he saw and the extraordinary people he interviewed, which touches on … … the day Bowie took him to the Hammersmith Odeon to stand on the spot where he announced his retirement … Keith Richards’ dark side (and what he said about Lady Di) … interviewing Prince “who seemed like a shadow” … seeing Free in 1970: “I still think about it. Some bands are like footprints in fresh snow” … Hendrix on a bill with Cat Stevens and the Walker Brothers when he was 14 … singles he wore out in the days when you had to change the needle … his theory about the lyrics of Crossroads … “the Simon Templar of rock journalism” … the purgatory of being a serious musician when Spotify adds 100,000 new tracks a day … and the Shadows, the Scorpions, Sting, ZZ Top, David Coverdale and … Millstone Grit. David Sinclair’s music here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4oMczlXHj1pt6M4ZNGR14E?si=_9Dx_G_UQ3GifCFGFra07A To buy here: https://www.davidsinclairfour.com/shop Tickets to the 100 Club, May19: https://www.solidentertainments.com/100club/index.htmlHelp us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 1, 2026 • 57min
The genius of Sly Dunbar & Catherine O’Hara plus Springsteen’s anthem and old New York
A bone-shaking ride on the weekly news cycle, stopping off here to pump up the tyres …. … Springsteen’s Streets Of Minneapolis: it’s not what he said but the fact that he’s said it … “they’re all just Sly & Robbie records but with someone different singing on them” … the price of stadium tickets: if it’s too high, don’t go – but stop complaining! … Catherine O’Hara’s wit and humanity in Waiting For Guffman and A Mighty Wind, and why Home Alone wouldn’t work without her … Melania’s deal with Amazon: the most craven act in the history of entertainment? … is Mick Jones the first cousin of a Tory Home Secretary? … the secret art of “four-walling” … are most fans conservative with a small ‘c’? … the romance of knackered old ‘70s New York: “the cheap pleasures have gone” … and the whitest rap of all time! Plus birthday guest Roger Millington and the agony of a band’s “new direction”.Help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 28, 2026 • 36min
Adele Bertei, New York’s art-rock explosion and Eno’s shopping list
Adele Bertei got a Greyhound to New York in 1977 intent on joining a band. James Chance thought she “looked like a pimp” and hired her as the organist in the Contortions, an instrument she couldn’t play. Her memoir No New York captures the most intoxicating times imaginable, the rise of Blondie, Talking Heads, Television, Madonna and her fellow raft of No Wave cheerleaders in pursuit of dismantling music. Highlights include … … the local priest recommending the Velvet Underground when she was 11 … “imbibe and dream”: her weekend with Lester Bangs … the rubble-filled New York wasteland of 1977, landlords setting fire to property just to claim the insurance … the No Wave circuit: crowd violence and singers who either talked or screamed .. her rivalry with Madonna: “our labels didn’t want people to know we were white” … the local Cleveland “Rust Belt” - Pere Ubu, Chrissie Hynde, Devo … why Warhol, Ginsberg and Burroughs seemed laughably outmoded … Brian Eno’s shopping list … the power of Tina Weymouth, Patti Smith and Debbie Harry (“sexy but with a snarl”) and why New York’s venues are internationally mythical. Order Adele Bertei’s ‘No New York’ here: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571386154-no-new-york/?srsltid=AfmBOor2IKVLRyzzZDisLz_8cTGDYIjDXphZVU9Lw5drAd4CdKR1KVhs Adele with Thomas Dolby on Whistle Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ3bGioFCXUHelp us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 27, 2026 • 54min
Steve Lillywhite produced the Stones, U2, Siouxsie, XTC - ‘the last leg of the relay’
Steve Lillywhite first got a foot in the studio door aged 17 making demos for Ultravox and became a producer with credits on over 500 records. He doesn’t have a copy of any of them but kept his Grammys and his CBE. The job involves being a lightning-rod, cheer-leader, editor, finisher and “as diplomatic as Henry Kissinger”. He looks back here from his ‘Lillypad’ in Bali at the milestones along the way, among them … … “I’d done my 10,000 hours by the age of 22” ... “If it ain’t broke, break it!” … when he screwed up as a tape-op: “you only do it once” … why bands never want to leave the studio … breakthrough hits with Johnny Thunders, Siouxsie and the Psychedelic Furs … “there’s been no new technology in the last ten years” … the radio plugger who heard Sunday Bloody Sunday and said “sounds like a hit but you’ll have to lose the word Bloody” … “when Mick and Keith weren’t talking they communicated through me” … why Muff Winwood wanted to fire Larry Mullen … why producers can’t hear a hit … Adam Clayton and Nick Rhodes “aren’t musicians” … “make the drums less Huntley & Palmers!” … the Wrecking Crew versus the “One-Man Show" production of today … and memories of making Vertigo, Fairytale of New York and Making Plans for Nigel.Help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


