Redefiners
Russell Reynolds Associates
Call them changemakers. Call them rule breakers. We call them Redefiners. And in this provocative podcast, we explore how daring leaders from across industries and around the globe are redefining their organizations—and themselves—to create extraordinary impact in today’s rapidly changing world. In each episode, Russell Reynolds Associates former CEO Clarke Murphy, Leadership Advisor Marla Oates, and Chief Science Officer Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, host engaging, purposeful conversations with leaders in and out of the business world who share their insights and perspectives on how they lead, boldly. You’ll come away with fresh ideas and tangible takeaways on how you can redefine your own leadership trajectory—no matter where you are on your journey.
Leadership Lounge
A sister mini-series to the Redefiners podcast, Leadership Lounge gives listeners unfettered access to our global team of leadership experts, who share real-world answers to your most-pressing leadership questions—from how you can give and receive feedback to the benefits of having a mentor. Hosted by RRA leadership advisor Emma Combe, each 15-20-minute episode lifts the curtain on how great leaders think, act, and lead, helping you build your own leadership muscles, whether you’re just starting out or already at the top.
Our Hosts: Clarke Murphy, Marla Oates, Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, and Emma Combe :
Clarke Murphy leverages 30 years of experience in the executive recruiting industry to advise on critical leadership mandates across sectors—including Fortune 100 board searches and CEO successions. Based in New York, he has provided leadership advisory services to corporations such as Duke Energy, Deutsche Bank and Siemens, as well as private equity firms including the Carlyle Group.
Since joining the firm in 1988, Clarke has held several senior level roles at the firm, working both in Europe and the US. Clarke was the CEO of Russell Reynolds Associates from 2011-2021, where he led the firm through unprecedented growth. Previously, he led the CEO & Board Advisory Practice, served as Head of the Americas region, and was a member of the firm’s board of directors and Executive Committee.
Marla Oates is a leadership advisor at RRA who is passionate about connecting organizations with influential leaders and trailblazers who can inspire and drive change in a rapidly evolving world. With a focus on identifying and recruiting exceptional talent for Chief Financial Officer, Chief People Officer, and board searches, Marla has successfully partnered with hundreds of Fortune 500 organizations and private equity firms throughout the technology, industrial, and consumer sectors to identify and recruit top talent.Based in Austin, she has the privilege of fostering community and curating meaningful connections for C-suite executives and board members.
Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic is the Chief Science Officer at RRA and is an international authority in people analytics, talent management, leadership development, and the human-AI interface. His commercial work has focused on the creation of science-based tools that improve organizations' ability to predict performance, and people's ability to understand themselves. He was recently the Chief Innovation Officer at ManpowerGroup, and is a co-founder of DeeperSignals and MyTrudy, as well as Professor of Business Psychology at University College London and Columbia University. He has previously held academic positions at New York University and the London School of Economics, and lectured at Harvard Business School, Stanford Business School, London Business School, Johns Hopkins, IMD, and INSEAD, as well as being the CEO at Hogan Assessment Systems.
As the host of Leadership Lounge, Redefiners’ sister podcast, Emma Combe leads the UK Board Practice for Russell Reynolds Associates. She excels at identifying board chairs, CEOs, and executive and non-executive directors for listed, private equity, and family-owned enterprises. She also has extensive experience advising clients on board composition and development, as well as CEO succession planning. Based in London, she brings deep expertise in the industrial, infrastructure, and services sectors, both in the UK and internationally.
Since 2023, Emma has hosted Leadership Lounge, a podcast mini-series where she asks Russell Reynolds Associates’ leadership advisors to answer some of the most pressing questions facing leaders today.
Emma joined Russell Reynolds Associates when The Zygos Partnership became part of the firm in 2017. Previously, Emma worked for a specialist headhunting firm advising private equity funds on the leadership of their portfolio companies. She began her career as an associate for a boutique executive search firm based in New York.
Leadership Lounge
A sister mini-series to the Redefiners podcast, Leadership Lounge gives listeners unfettered access to our global team of leadership experts, who share real-world answers to your most-pressing leadership questions—from how you can give and receive feedback to the benefits of having a mentor. Hosted by RRA leadership advisor Emma Combe, each 15-20-minute episode lifts the curtain on how great leaders think, act, and lead, helping you build your own leadership muscles, whether you’re just starting out or already at the top.
Our Hosts: Clarke Murphy, Marla Oates, Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, and Emma Combe :
Clarke Murphy leverages 30 years of experience in the executive recruiting industry to advise on critical leadership mandates across sectors—including Fortune 100 board searches and CEO successions. Based in New York, he has provided leadership advisory services to corporations such as Duke Energy, Deutsche Bank and Siemens, as well as private equity firms including the Carlyle Group.
Since joining the firm in 1988, Clarke has held several senior level roles at the firm, working both in Europe and the US. Clarke was the CEO of Russell Reynolds Associates from 2011-2021, where he led the firm through unprecedented growth. Previously, he led the CEO & Board Advisory Practice, served as Head of the Americas region, and was a member of the firm’s board of directors and Executive Committee.
Marla Oates is a leadership advisor at RRA who is passionate about connecting organizations with influential leaders and trailblazers who can inspire and drive change in a rapidly evolving world. With a focus on identifying and recruiting exceptional talent for Chief Financial Officer, Chief People Officer, and board searches, Marla has successfully partnered with hundreds of Fortune 500 organizations and private equity firms throughout the technology, industrial, and consumer sectors to identify and recruit top talent.Based in Austin, she has the privilege of fostering community and curating meaningful connections for C-suite executives and board members.
Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic is the Chief Science Officer at RRA and is an international authority in people analytics, talent management, leadership development, and the human-AI interface. His commercial work has focused on the creation of science-based tools that improve organizations' ability to predict performance, and people's ability to understand themselves. He was recently the Chief Innovation Officer at ManpowerGroup, and is a co-founder of DeeperSignals and MyTrudy, as well as Professor of Business Psychology at University College London and Columbia University. He has previously held academic positions at New York University and the London School of Economics, and lectured at Harvard Business School, Stanford Business School, London Business School, Johns Hopkins, IMD, and INSEAD, as well as being the CEO at Hogan Assessment Systems.
As the host of Leadership Lounge, Redefiners’ sister podcast, Emma Combe leads the UK Board Practice for Russell Reynolds Associates. She excels at identifying board chairs, CEOs, and executive and non-executive directors for listed, private equity, and family-owned enterprises. She also has extensive experience advising clients on board composition and development, as well as CEO succession planning. Based in London, she brings deep expertise in the industrial, infrastructure, and services sectors, both in the UK and internationally.
Since 2023, Emma has hosted Leadership Lounge, a podcast mini-series where she asks Russell Reynolds Associates’ leadership advisors to answer some of the most pressing questions facing leaders today.
Emma joined Russell Reynolds Associates when The Zygos Partnership became part of the firm in 2017. Previously, Emma worked for a specialist headhunting firm advising private equity funds on the leadership of their portfolio companies. She began her career as an associate for a boutique executive search firm based in New York.
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Apr 8, 2026 • 27min
Winning in Volatility: How Trafigura Chairman Jeremy Weir Built a Global Powerhouse
There’s no shortage of uncertainty and change in the world these days, which is why it’s a frequent topic on Redefiners. This is especially true in the world of commodities, as perhaps no other industry has to deal with the level of uncertainty and volatility that comes with the global trade of energy, metals, and minerals. Trafigura Chairman Jeremy Weir joins Clarke Murphy and Marla Oates to discuss how he scaled the employee-owned company during his time as CEO to become one of the world’s leading commodities groups. Jeremy talks about how he identified and developed leaders and talent to manage that growth while staying ahead of constant volatility and change. He shares insights from his transition into the CEO role, and how he’s shifted his leadership style as Chairman to help the company and the next CEO succeed. He also talks about how AI is being used at Trafigura to reshape the business and where they’re placing the biggest bets. We’ll also hear from Dee Symons, a leadership advisor at Russell Reynolds Associates, who will share her perspective on how leaders can respond effectively in times of uncertainty. Four things you’ll learn from this episode: Preparing for a transition to a CEO and board role Ways to identify and develop leaders and talent during times of rapid growth Decision-making during volatile and uncertain times Making big bets with AI and how to manage the risksIf you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes: Digging Deep: Leadership, Growth & Risk with BHP CEO Mike Henry Leadership Lounge: How New CEOs Build Productive Relationships With Their Board From Chaos to Clarity: How Bain Capital’s John Connaughton Leads Through Volatility Leadership Lounge: How to Build a Top-Performing C-suite – The Leadership Blueprint for Sustained High Performance The Only Certainty Is Change: Nasdaq CEO Adena Friedman on AI, Innovation & Market Evolution Leadership Lounge: From Firefighting to Future-Building: How Leaders Can Master Perpetual Transformation A closer look at the research from this episode: Global CEO Turnover Index Global Corporate Governance Trends for 2026
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Mar 25, 2026 • 36min
All in the Family: Leadership Lessons from the World’s Biggest Family Offices with Stephan Roche
Meet Stephan Roche, a family office advisor and former CEO of Walton Enterprises who helps ultra-wealthy families with governance, philanthropy, and succession. He discusses navigating family dynamics, balancing purpose with wealth, diplomacy and compassion as leadership skills, and preparing the next generation to steward long-term wealth. Short, practical stories and leadership lessons throughout.
Mar 11, 2026 • 19min
Leadership Lounge: How GenAI Can Elevate—And Expose—Today’s Leaders
Generative AI is reshaping how leaders think, decide, and communicate. Used thoughtfully, it can sharpen strategic thinking and accelerate decision-making. But when GenAI output replaces genuine insight, it can expose leaders who can't defend their thinking under pressure. In this episode of Leadership Lounge, Emma Combe sits down with Amy Scissons, Sean Dineen, and Fawad Bajwa to explore how senior leaders can harness GenAI's potential while avoiding its pitfalls. They discuss: How C-suite leaders are using GenAI in their work The growing concern about "workslop"—GenAI-generated output that lacks real insight The critical skills needed to pressure-test GenAI output and avoid shallow thinking Why transparency and accountability matter more as GenAI becomes embedded in workflows “Leaders carry a lot of wisdom. They need to feed that wisdom into AI and educate it. Context is king.” Sean Dineen, Leadership Advisor, Russell Reynolds Associates Four things you'll learn from this episode: 1. GenAI can elevate strategic thinking: senior leaders are using GenAI as a sparring partner to pressure-test decisions, create board personas, and refine their perspectives before high-stakes moments. 2. Polish doesn't equal depth: GenAI-generated output can look impressive, but it can also lack substance. Leaders who can't defend their thinking under scrutiny will be exposed. 3. Critical thinking is your competitive advantage: the ability to interrogate GenAI output, provide context, and apply wisdom separates leaders who use GenAI effectively from those who outsource their judgment. 4. Transparency and accountability are non-negotiable: leaders must own their outputs, regardless of how much GenAI contributed to the process. In this episode, we will cover: (02:00) Using GenAI as a sparring partner and creating board personas to pressure-test strategic thinking. (04:39) Why senior leaders should experiment with GenAI tools to build confidence before trusting them with critical decisions. (09:05) The personal risk for leaders who rely on seemingly polished GenAI output without developing their own point of view. (09:50) How GenAI can create false flattery and why leaders need to ask it to be critical. (10:50) Why credibility is a leader's currency—and how shallow GenAI-generated thinking can erode trust. (13.13) Why critical thinking—built through struggle and learning from mistakes—is the most essential leadership skill in a GenAI world. (16:20) The importance of transparency and accountability when using GenAI tools. (17:45) How GenAI output reflects your approach: clear and thoughtful inputs amplify clarity; rushed inputs amplify shallowness. A closer look at the research from this episode: Boston Consulting Group, AI at Work 2025: Momentum Builds, but Gaps Remain | BCG Russell Reynolds Associates, Season 5 - Ep. 2 | AI or Die: A Conversation with Coveo Chairman and CEO Louis Têtu | Redefiners - Podcast Series | Russell Reynolds Associates Harvard Business Review, AI-Generated “Workslop” Is Destroying Productivity Russell Reynolds Associates, Global Leadership Monitor | Russell Reynolds Associates Russell Reynolds Associates, Season 3 - Ep. 18 | A Front Row Seat to the AI Revolution with Microsoft Vice Chair and President Brad Smith – Part 2 | Redefiners - Podcast Series | Russell Reynolds Associates
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Feb 25, 2026 • 32min
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn
Andy Penn, former Telstra CEO who led a massive company reinvention and now advises on cybersecurity and governance. He recounts simplifying complex systems, aligning resources to overcome resistance, using agile for cross-functional delivery, and practical steps to prepare for cyber threats. Short takes on leadership habits, AI transformation essentials, and moving from CEO to board roles.
Feb 11, 2026 • 22min
Leadership Lounge: How New CEOs Build Productive Relationships With Their Board
For new CEOs, few relationships matter more—and few are more complex—than the relationship with their board. The tone set in the first year can either establish the board as a powerful ally or create friction that slows progress. In this episode of Leadership Lounge, Emma Combe is joined by three of our trusted leadership advisors Rusty O’Kelley, Anita Wingrove, and Ty Wiggins, to explore how new CEOs can build trust, alignment, and effective ways of working with their boards—and how that relationship evolves over time. They discuss: Why the CEO–board relationship is so critical in the first year of leadership What new CEOs should seek to understand about their board before and during the transition How transparency and candor build credibility and trust Where conflict most often arises between CEOs and boards—and how to navigate it constructively “You ultimately want their perspective on key matters. And for that, they need to have the unvarnished truth.” Ty Wiggins Leadership Advisor, Russell Reynolds Associates Four things you’ll learn from this episode: Early engagement with board members helps new CEOs understand individual perspectives, priorities, and expectations—reducing the risk of misalignment later on. Clear priorities, timelines, and metrics give boards confidence and prevent anxiety from filling information gaps. Candor builds trust—boards are most effective when CEOs share the full picture, including challenges, alongside a clear plan forward. The CEO–board relationship must evolve over time, with periodic resets helping to maintain alignment. In this episode, we will cover: (01:45) Why the CEO–board relationship is critical in the first year (03:10) How new CEOs should prepare for working with multiple board perspectives (05:05) What to understand about the board during the selection and transition phase (10:30) What effective transparency with the board really looks like (13:40) How to share difficult news without undermining confidence (16:20) The most common sources of tension between CEOs and boards (18:55) Managing disagreement constructively and maintaining trust (24:10) When and how to reset expectations with the board over time (26:45) The most common mistakes new CEOs make—and how to avoid them A closer look at the research from this episode: CEO Transitions | Russell Reynolds Associates The New CEO | Russell Reynolds Associates
Jan 28, 2026 • 29min
Leading with Faith and Purpose with His Eminence Cardinal Dolan
Leadership is crucial to provide vision, direction, and motivation, guiding individuals and organizations toward common goals and overall success. This is true whether it’s in business, society, or your local community. Today, Clarke Murphy sits down with His Eminence Timothy Cardinal Dolan, a well-known leader in the Catholic church, in the New York City community, and around the world. Cardinal Dolan shares his path to leadership roles in the Church and how he looks at developing the next generation of Church leaders. He talks about what goes into electing the next Pope and lessons on leading through uncertainty. He’ll explore the commonalities that business and religious leaders have when it comes to the challenge of earning and developing trust. And he shares his views on the role of faith in today’s world of technology and change. We’ll also hear from Dean Stamoulis, a leadership advisor at Russell Reynolds Associates, who shares why thoughtful succession planning—and the responsible transfer of power—are essential to long-term leadership continuity. Four things you’ll learn from this episode: The key insights business leaders can learn from religious leaders to help them build and maintain trust in their organizations The criteria that go into deciding who the next Pope will be and how to manage through leadership uncertainty The critical skills and traits to look for in the next generation of leaders His views on the role of faith today in a fast-changing world If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes: The Urgent Race to Create 800 Million Jobs: World Bank President Ajay Banga’s Global Challenge Leadership Lounge: How to Create and Maintain Impact as a Leader Action Creates Hope: A Conversation with IRC President and CEO David Miliband Leadership Lounge: The Art of Succession: How to Identify Tomorrow's Leaders Today Thriving Through Adversity: How WTO’s Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala is Solving Global Problems Leadership Lounge: Beyond Handshakes: How to Build Trust and Transform Executive Team Performance
Jan 14, 2026 • 33min
The Truth About Talent, AI, and Why Some Leaders Get It Wrong with RRA Chief Science Officer Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic
Welcome back for Season 6 of Redefiners! What better way to kick off the new year than introducing Russell Reynolds Associates’ first-ever Chief Science Officer, Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic. And if that wasn’t enough, Emma Combe from the Leadership Lounge joins Marla Oates for this special conversation. In this episode, Tomas shares his latest research on talent management, leadership development, and the human-AI interface. He’ll explain why authenticity is overrated, how to use negative thinking as a positive force, and what leaders new in their roles can do to gain competence and confidence to be successful. He’ll dig into AI and how people can stand out in a sea of technology while avoiding the growing problem of “AI workslop.” He’ll look at how AI is impacting the traditional career ladder and what leaders need to do to develop young talent for future leadership roles. And he’ll highlight the key leadership topics he’s tracking in 2026. We’ll also hear from Amy Scissons, RRA’s Chief Marketing and Communications Officer, who will highlight a key AI challenge many leaders are only just beginning to notice. Four things you’ll learn from this episode: How to rethink authenticity and use negative thinking as a positive force What leaders new to their roles need to do to gain competence and be successful How to avoid AI workslop and how AI is impacting the traditional career ladder What are the key leadership topics Tomas is tracking in 2026 If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes: The Leadership Lessons That Shaped Us: Celebrating 100 Episodes of Redefiners Leadership Lounge: How to Create and Maintain Impact as a Leader Banking on AI: How Goldman Sachs CIO Marco Argenti Is Rewriting the AI Playbook Leadership Lounge: Unleashing AI’s potential: Are you ready to lead the charge? Talking Transformational Leadership with RRA’s CEO Constantine Alexandrakis Leadership Lounge: How to nail your first year as CEO
Dec 17, 2025 • 46min
Redefiners 2025 Wrapped: What's Next for Leaders
A lively roundup of 2025 leadership themes: AI urgency and how to invest for real results. Succession planning that builds future leaders, not just replacements. Culture change tactics for continuous transformation. What it takes to step into the CEO role and how boards shape strategy and timing.
Dec 3, 2025 • 18min
Leadership Lounge: How to Create and Maintain Impact as a Leader
Creating leadership impact isn’t about one defining moment—it’s about the ripple effects your leadership generates over time. In this episode of Leadership Lounge, Emma Combe sits down with Shannon Knott and Erin Marie Collins to unpack what meaningful impact looks like today, and how leaders can sustain it. They explore: Why impact extends beyond results to the experience others have of your leadership. The key skills—curiosity, adaptability, and an understanding of your purpose—that enable long-term influence. How to evaluate whether your leadership is truly landing across stakeholder groups. Why reflection and feedback loops are essential to maintaining credibility and trust. “Leaders who can sustain real impact do so because they’re able to stay curious. They continually learn and adjust. They treat leadership less like a position and more as a practice.” — Shannon Knott, Leadership Advisor, Russell Reynolds Associates Four things you'll learn from this episode Impact is intentional: define it consciously and test it objectively through feedback. Curiosity sustains relevance: stay adaptable and open to learning at every stage. Feedback fuels evolution: build a trusted “cabinet” to give unfiltered perspectives. Purpose anchors action: a clear sense of values helps leaders maintain credibility and trust. In this episode, we cover: (01:35) How you define leadership impact and why it extends beyond results to lasting influence (04:10) The skills that sustain long-term impact (07:25) Why leadership must shift from mastery and control to influence and judgment as careers progress (09:42) Practical ways to assess whether your impact is landing across teams and stakeholders (12:10) How reflection, feedback, and purpose create a rhythm for sustained leadership effectiveness (14:38) What inspirational leaders do differently to remain authentic and effective over time A closer look at the research from this episode: Edelman Trust Barometer 2025 Russell Reynolds Associates Global Leadership Monitor, H2 2025
Nov 19, 2025 • 29min
The Urgent Race to Create 800 Million Jobs: World Bank President Ajay Banga’s Global Challenge
Roughly 1.2 billion young people will reach working age in developing countries over the next 10-15 years. However, current projections show that only 420 million jobs are expected to be created by that time, meaning millions of young people will be left without a clear path to employment. World Bank President Ajay Banga joins Clarke Murphy and Marla Oates on Redefiners to talk about what the Bank is doing about it, and why job creation is so critical to both developing countries and the global economy. Ajay talks about what he’s doing to transform the 80-year old institution into a faster, more efficient, and more impactful partner in development, including partnering more with the private sector to increase investments in emerging markets. He also discusses what he calls the Decency Quotient and how leaders can tap into that in order to lead people with a hand on their back, not in their face. We’ll also hear from Rebecca Hart, a leadership advisor in our Atlanta office, who will discuss why the most successful leaders prioritize curiosity over having all the answers. Four things you’ll learn from this episode: How to get everyone aligned with a bold mandate, mission and vision and how to deal with challenging feedback Why job creation is a critical piece in global development Why the private sector is critical to international development What the Decency Quotient is and why it matters for leaders today If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes: Music with a Mission: Former MTV International Chairman and CEO Bill Roedy on Leading with Purpose Leadership Lounge: Built to Last or Built to Learn: How Leaders Can Develop Resilience Action Creates Hope: A Conversation with IRC President and CEO David Miliband Leadership Lounge: From Firefighting to Future-Building: How Leaders Can Master Perpetual Transformation Thriving Through Adversity: How WTO’s Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala is Solving Global Problems Leadership Lounge: Beyond Handshakes: How to Build Trust and Transform Executive Team Performance
