

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Aug 29, 2025 • 52min
Workday Buys Paradox | HR Tech’s Biggest AI Move Yet?
Strap on your helmets and tighten those chinstraps, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are celebrating their 1,500th episode with more swagger than a Cracker Barrel parking lot brawl.
Expect:
-Trump cosplaying as a mob boss at Intel and Cracker Barrel-Kelce + Swift rumors getting the “wink-wink” treatment-Fantasy football team names that would make your grandma blush-Workday dragging Paradox into the modern era-Employ Inc.’s CEO carousel—because why settle for one clown when you can have the whole circus?-Dayforce’s $12.3B private equity soap opera-Meta’s AI drama (aka “Zuck being Zuck”)
It’s business, it’s football, it’s chaos—and it’s all drenched in the unfiltered sarcasm you love.
1500 episodes later, the boys are still slinging takes hotter than a Browns fan’s rage.
Chapters:
00:00Celebrating 1500 Episodes
01:24Reflections on Current Events
05:53The Future of Restaurants
06:31AI in Business: The Human Factor
09:38Travis Kelsey and Celebrity Culture
11:14Fantasy Football Team Names
18:08Workday Acquires Paradox: A Game Changer
22:18The Rise and Fall of Jobbing
26:05Workday's Strategic Moves in AI
30:18The Future of Recruitment Tech
32:41Leadership Changes in Employee Tech
40:24Dayforce's Private Equity Acquisition
45:25Meta's AI Controversies and Hiring Pause
Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Aug 28, 2025 • 6min
Shredded: Dayforce, Pintarnya, Folks, Glow Talents, ZipRecruiter, Workday, Paradox & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Aug 27, 2025 • 22min
How Marriott Tackles AI, Complexity, and Fake Candidates
Marriott’s Tyler Weeks joins Chad & Cheese to unpack what it’s like running HR for a million humans (and possibly a few Roombas).
Expect:
Ritz-Carlton ghosting Joel harder than his prom date.
Why Marriott’s HR is basically 9,000 mom-and-pop shops in a trench coat.
The shocking discovery that AI doesn’t make great recruiters greater—it just stops the bad ones from lighting themselves on fire.
CFO ROI math so sketchy it belongs in a late-night infomercial.
And the big AI fix for fake résumés and deepfakes? Drag ‘em into the lobby for an old-fashioned, in-person interview.
This is hospitality meets HR Tech chaos—and Tyler’s got the room service order. 🍸
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Aug 25, 2025 • 53min
Upwork’s €20M Bupty Bet, Denmark’s Deepfake Crackdown, and Europe’s 4-Day Work Week
Forget the Eiffel Tower, kids—we’re climbing the recruitment rollercoaster instead. Upwork’s shopping spree in Holland (Bupty? Buptie? Bupkis?), Denmark’s going full Face/Off to keep Nic Cage off Viggo’s jawline, and the UK is suddenly allergic to Fridays.
Joel’s out dropping Cole at college, so Chad is joined by Belgium’s royal pain Lieven and Scotland’s deep-fried-pizza poet Stephen McGrath. Loud Americans, entitled tourists, and the four-day work week—this one’s got more punch than a Glasgow nightclub at 2 a.m.
👉 Press play. Europe’s never been so dangerously entertaining.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
04:15 Shout Outs and Celebrations
11:11 Upwork's Strategic Acquisitions
22:52 The Future of Staffing and Technology
38:29 Denmark's Deepfake Legislation
44:24 The Four-Day Work Week Discussion

Aug 22, 2025 • 56min
Upwork & Indeed Target Randstad
🎧 This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast:
AI hiring lawsuits pile up faster than unread LinkedIn DMs
Upwork tries on staffing’s Blockbuster costume
Deel debuts creepy digital clones (no, not the cool Star Wars kind)
And Joel cries in Bloomington while Chad rants about Tim Apple
It’s HR tech, corporate drama, and just enough bad jokes to make you question humanity.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro: Chad and Cheese, the HR comedy duo you didn’t know you needed.
02:23 - College Drop-Off Diaries: Tears, tuition, and existential dread.
05:23 - AI in Hiring: When algorithms discriminate worse than your uncle at Thanksgiving.
17:15 - AI Recruitment: Is it saving HR or just ghosting candidates with flair?
23:14 - AI Hiring Outlook: Crystal balls and code, what’s next?
24:30 - AI Marketplaces: New risks, same old corporate facepalm.
26:20 - AI Governance: Trying to tame the tech beast in talent acquisition.
29:30 - Upwork’s Lifted: Enterprise staffing with a side of swagger.
36:17 - Deel and SiriusXM/iCIMS: AI innovations meet legal oopsies.
43:33 - Government Funds Shipbuilding: Because who doesn’t want to sail into 1850?
49:41 - Humans + AI: Recruitment’s new rom-com, minus the happy ending.
Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Aug 21, 2025 • 6min
Shredded: Visage, Rolebot, Workday, Upwork, Professional.me, Deel, & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Aug 19, 2025 • 28min
Domino’s HR Tech Transformation with Matt King
Domino’s isn’t just delivering pizza in 30 minutes or less anymore—they’re trying to deliver candidates, too. In this episode, we sit down with Matt King, Director of HR Tech at Domino’s, to talk AI, ATS drama, and why franchisees always have “better ideas” than corporate.
From killing off Kenexa (RIP, nobody misses you) to jumping into bed with SmartRecruiters, Domino’s is betting big on speed, automation, and a sprinkle of chatbot charm. Matt spills on:
Why hiring at Domino’s must be as fast as ordering a pepperoni with extra cheese.
How chatbots went from clunky decision trees to almost-human assistants (minus the dad jokes).
What happens when franchisees get in a room with vendors.
The eternal struggle between human touch and “just let the damn bot send the background check reminder.”
And yes—we even asked about the Noid. Because if Domino’s doesn’t bring him back as a recruiting chatbot, what are we even doing here?
It’s tech, pizza, and questionable morals—just another day on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI Sessions.

Aug 15, 2025 • 51min
It's the End of Entry Level Jobs as We Know It (and I Feel Fine) : Silicon Valley Gets Hard
Hold onto your headphones, folks, because the Chad and Cheese Podcast is serving up a hilarious, hot-mess buffet of insights that’ll leave you laughing and maybe a little worried about your career!
This episode, your hosts sling snarky banter like baristas tossing espresso shots, breezing through early chit-chat about travel woes, Coldplay’s drama-fest, LinkedIn’s questionable career tips, sports shout-outs, Walmart’s employee discount PR stunt, free swag, and fantasy football.
But the real meat hits after the 15-minute mark, where they dive into the chaos facing recent grads—think degrees collecting dust while the job market laughs. The future of work gets a roasting, with the creator economy shining as the cool kid at the career fair, while AI and economic shenanigans threaten to swipe jobs faster than you can say “pivot.”
Teaching’s future? It’s AI’s new playground. Silicon Valley’s traded ping-pong tables for “purpose,” but don’t get too cozy—tech employment’s a rollercoaster, and global competition’s got everyone sweating.
Job boards like ZipRecruiter are wheezing in the dust, outrun by AI, and in a plot twist nobody saw coming, the hosts ponder if newspaper job ads might stage a retro comeback. It’s a wild, witty ride through the workforce’s new reality—adapt or get left behind, and maybe grab a newspaper just in case.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Banter
00:29 - Travel and Cultural Observations
02:26 - Coldplay Drama and LinkedIn Insights
04:12 - Shout Outs and Celebrating Progress in Sports
09:20 - Walmart's Employee Discount Initiative
11:00 - Free Stuff and Promotions
12:10 - Travel Plans and Upcoming Events
13:14 - Fantasy Football and Sports Culture
14:26 - Challenges for Recent Graduates
18:30 - The Future of Work and the Creator Economy
21:04 - The Impact of AI and Economic Factors on Employment
22:53 - The Future of Teaching and AI
24:49 - Silicon Valley's Shift: From Perks to Purpose
27:16 - The Changing Landscape of Tech Employment
30:21 - Global Competition and the Tech Industry
32:03 - The Decline of Job Boards and the Rise of AI
39:34 - Reviving Newspaper Job Ads: A Retro Solution?
48:27 - Closing Thoughts and Dad Jokes

Aug 14, 2025 • 6min
Shredded: ZipRecruiter, DHI Group, AgileATS, Kelly Services, Darwinbox, Upwork, Bubty & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Aug 12, 2025 • 28min
Why Working in HR Sucks Right Now with Sarah Needleman
In this episode, the boys chat with Sarah Needleman, Business Insider’s Leadership and Workplace Correspondent, formerly of the Wall Street Journal for 23 years. Her article, “If You Think Your Job Is Hard Right Now, Try Working in HR,” dives into HR’s brutal post-2020 landscape: mass layoffs (like Microsoft’s 9,000 cuts) burden HR with soul-crushing terminations, as Evan Loveless shared, facing tears and dashed hopes.
AI automation shrinks HR teams, incivility spikes with employee backlash, and return-to-office mandates spark resentment over commutes and fairness. ICE raids and immigration fears—amped by Trump’s “big beautiful bill”—disrupt workplaces, with HR crafting response plans.
Political uncertainty, like tariffs pausing hires, and H-1B visa exits to Canada/Europe strain talent pools. Interest in HR jobs is waning on Indeed, hinting at future shortages. Yet, many HR pros see this as a “calling” to shine via support and outplacement.


