

Divergent Conversations
Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale
Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, theyâll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and theyâll interview other ND Folx to amplify the voices of other neurodivergent advocates and individuals as they share their authentic stories. New episodes will come out weekly, on all major platforms. Megan told Patrick, âIâll bring the chaos, You organize it.â This perfectly sums up their working relationship and friendship. Reflections of two neurodivergent clinicians. Raw, Vulnerable, Affirmative As Hell. Follow on instagram.com/divergentconversations
Topics include Autism, ADHD, Sleep struggles, Chronic Illness, RSD, Alexithymia, Autistic burnout, Intersectionality, Neuroqueer, Creativity, OCD, Neurodivergence, Affirming Language, Small business ownership, Unpacking Internalized Ableism, and so much more.
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Topics include Autism, ADHD, Sleep struggles, Chronic Illness, RSD, Alexithymia, Autistic burnout, Intersectionality, Neuroqueer, Creativity, OCD, Neurodivergence, Affirming Language, Small business ownership, Unpacking Internalized Ableism, and so much more.
If you love the podcast, please leave us a 5 star review https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/divergent-conversations/id1662009631
Visit our website for all podcast episodes and sponsorship opportunities divergentpod.com
Legal Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider or medical professional for personalized advice regarding any medical condition or treatment.
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Dec 22, 2023 ⢠44min
[FLASHBACK] Episode 2: Autistic Burnout
Explore the concept of autistic burnout and its impact on sensory sensitivities. Understand the challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals in the workplace. Discover coping mechanisms for managing autistic burnout and ADHD. Learn about the importance of self-care and setting boundaries.

Dec 15, 2023 ⢠53min
Episode 32: Navigating Neurodivergent Attachment: Unraveling Complex Relationships
Discover the complexities of neurodivergent attachment styles and relationships as Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff share personal stories and insights. Learn about unique challenges, sensory impacts, and the importance of communication in fostering healthy connections.

Dec 8, 2023 ⢠34min
Episode 31: Releasing Expectations Around The Neurodivergent Holiday Experience
Explore the challenges of navigating the holiday season as neurodivergent individuals. Learn strategies for managing stress, setting boundaries, and finding moments of connection. Discover the importance of releasing expectations and embracing individual experiences.

Dec 1, 2023 ⢠1h 9min
Episode 30: Rewriting Neurodivergent Narratives: Navigating Labels, Trust, and Healing through Somatic Work [featuring Sandra Coral]
Sandra Coral, somatic therapist, founder of Neurodivergent Narratives, discusses the impact of labels on neurodivergent individuals and the use of somatic therapy. Topics include narratives, empowerment through personal exploration, the significance of somatic work, interpreting behaviors in educational settings, and navigating privilege and power.

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Nov 24, 2023 ⢠42min
Episode 29: Unmasking Rejection: Answering Questions About RSD
Dr. Megan Anna Neff, a mental health professional specializing in AuDHD, joins Patrick Casale to dive deep into rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD). They explore how RSD is masked and its profound effects on shame and connection. The conversation also highlights the links between RSD, PMDD, and different perspectives from ADHD and autistic individuals. Plus, they share practical strategies for managing RSD to foster a nurturing environment and emphasize the importance of understanding core needs to break the cycle of shame.

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Nov 17, 2023 ⢠43min
Episode 28: RSD and Social Media: Exploring the Complex Relationship and Nurturing Mental Wellness Online
If you struggle with rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD), navigating social media can be complicated. Social media is both a place where many neurodivergent individuals are able to find connection and be seen, but it can also be a place where impulsivity and reactiveness can run rampant, both on the giving and receiving end of online conversations and posts.In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, delve deep into the complex relationship between social media, rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD), setting boundaries, and mental well-being.Top 3 reasons to listen to the entire episode:Understand how to address RSD burnout with social media, as well as the important role that boundary-setting plays in helping you show up online with reduced intensity of RSD.Hear about some ways that Autistic individuals may experience social media differently, and even more positively, than allistic people and neurotypicals.Learn some RSD-symptom-reducing strategies to check yourself and check in with others when you are struggling with fear of being misunderstood.As you navigate the complexities of social media, remember to check in with yourself and establish your boundaries for the way you interact with others online and who you allow into your space. Donât be afraid to unfollow someone or snooze posts from a friend. Make it your priority to protect your mental well-being and engage in a healthier way.Resources plus Exclusive Coupon CodeDr. Neff's Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria Workbook Bundle (Clinical Use): https://neurodivergentinsights.com/neurodivergentstore/p/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-clinical Dr. Neff's Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria Workbook Bundle (Personal Use): https://neurodivergentinsights.com/neurodivergentstore/p/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-bundleUse Code: âDivergentConversationsListenerâ To get 20% off anything in the shop, including the RSD bundle. Dr. Neff's free blog posts on RSD: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/blog/category/Rejection+Sensitive+Dysphoria The EFT attachment infinity loop can be downloaded here: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/couples-resourcesââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââðïžListen to more episodes of the Divergent Conversations PodcastðïžSpotifyðïžAppleðïžYouTube Musicâ¶ïž YouTubeð¬ Join Divergent Conversations Undergroundâââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââš Neurodivergent Insights Autistic Burnout ResourcesIf youâd like to supplement your learning on burnout, you can check out Neurodivergent Insights' resources on burnout. We have articles, an Autistic Burnout course, workbooks, and print books! Visit: neurodivergentinsights.com/burnout-resourcesââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââð¬ Join Divergent Conversations UndergroundDivergent Conversations Underground is a space for messy conversations, real connection, and unfinished thoughts in a neurodivergent-affirming community. If youâd like to go deeper with us into more nuanced, searching conversations, join here: divergentconversations.substack.comââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââMentioned in this episode:Neurodivergent Insights' Autistic Burnout ResourcesIf youâd like to supplement your learning on burnout, you can check out Neurodivergent Insights' resources on burnout. We have articles, an Autistic Burnout course, workbooks, and print books! Visit: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/burnout-resources

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Nov 10, 2023 ⢠46min
Episode 27: Inside Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria: Insights on RSD, Mental Health, and Relationships
They unpack what rejection sensitivity dysphoria is and how it differs from normal sensitivity. They explore how RSD shapes relationships, workplace behavior, social media use, and masking. They discuss intersections with autism and ADHD and practical treatment directions including medication and adapted therapy approaches.

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Nov 3, 2023 ⢠1h 5min
Episode 26: Exploring Different Neurotypes: Ask an Autistic [featuring Amanda Diekman]
Explore the unique experiences of Autistic individuals without ADHD, including switching between masked and unmasked selves, sensory issues, demand avoidance, and parenting challenges. Discover insights on late autism diagnosis, unmasking authenticity, shutting out visual stimuli, navigating routines and stress behaviors, special interests, managing criticism, and supporting neurodivergent parents.

Oct 27, 2023 ⢠1h 7min
Episode 25: Exploring Different Neurotypes: Ask a Neurotypical [featuring Jennifer Agee]
Jennifer Agee, a neurotypical mental health professional, joins Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff to discuss the contrasting experiences of neurotypicals and autistic individuals. They cover topics such as small talk, communication in neurodiverse relationships, travel experiences, and daily life. With personal stories and insights, the episode offers a glimpse into diverse ways of perceiving the world.

Oct 20, 2023 ⢠55min
Episode 24: Exploring Different Neurotypes: Ask an ADHDer [featuring Dr. Donna Henderson]
Dr. Donna Henderson, a non-Autistic ADHDer psychologist, discusses the differences between non-Autistic ADHDers and Autistic ADHDers, including topics like executive functioning, sensitivity, working memory, and self-care. The conversation explores how Autism and ADHD influence communication, relationships, and self-awareness. Dr. Henderson shares insights on breaking generic standards of healthy living to align with individual needs.


