

Producer Points
Justin Gammella
“Producer Points” with Justin Gammella brings you inside the music industry. Hosted by Justin, a platinum-selling producer and songwriter, this podcast features in-depth conversations with industry-leading music professionals. Discover their journeys, creative processes, and the untold stories behind today’s biggest hits. A must for anyone passionate about music production and the art of making music.
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May 6, 2025 • 1h 13min
Diamond Pistols on bbno$, Yung Gravy & the Wild Art of Sound Design
In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Christian Dold—better known as Diamond Pistols—for a deep dive into his explosive production style, his viral hits with bbno$ and Yung Gravy, and the mindset shifts that took him from bedroom beatmaker to in-demand hitmaker. From crafting the viral smash “edamame” to shaping Yung Gravy’s “C’est La Vie,” Christian shares how he keeps his sound simple, bold, and wildly effective.They talk:🎧 The making of “edamame” and why the horns were an accident🎧 How a Baja Fresh trip inspired one of his biggest tracks🎧 Why fewer layers = better mixes🎧 Favorite gear, plugins, vocal chain, and mixbus philosophy🎧 Lessons from working with artists like Rich Brian and Baby No Money🎧 Why building with indie artists changed his life—and his financesPlus, Diamond Pistols gives rapid-fire takes in the "Plug or Unplug" segment and shares what advice he’d give his younger self walking into his first L.A. sessions.🎶 Check out the Producer Points Spotify playlist for the songs discussed in this episode.

May 3, 2025 • 1h 14min
Getting Discovered in 2025 — Tips from the Producers Behind Benson Boone, GAYLE & ITZY
🎙 Getting Discovered in 2025 — Tips from the Producers Behind Benson Boone, GAYLE & ITZYOn this roundtable episode of Producer Points, we’re diving into one of the most asked (and misunderstood) topics in the industry: how do producers actually get discovered today?In 2025, A&Rs aren’t digging through SoundCloud — they’re watching reels, scanning analytics, and scouting self-released music. So where should producers focus their energy if they want to break through?Host Justin Gammella is joined by two producers who’ve navigated both traditional and modern paths to success:🔹 Alina Smith – One half of LYRE Music Group, with credits for ITZY, Red Velvet, and Betty Who. Alina built a global career through writing, branding, and leveraging social content.🔹 Stephen Conley – Gold-certified producer, songwriter, and mixer with credits including Benson Boone and GAYLE. Known for combining emotional clarity with technical excellence.In this episode, we cover:🎵 Social media vs. word of mouth — what’s actually working🎵 Why your artist project might be the best way to get hired🎵 Sync, niche fandoms, and overlooked discovery platforms🎵 Viral content: fluke or strategy?🎵 Why being “busy online” isn’t the same as building momentum🎵 What managers and A&Rs actually want to see in 2025Whether you're grinding in your bedroom or already building momentum, this episode is packed with real insights, honest advice, and modern strategies for getting seen, heard, and hired.🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.🎶 Check out the Producer Points Spotify playlist for featured songs.

Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 18min
From ‘Shut Up and Dance’ to Benson Boone: Captain Cuts on Crafting Iconic Pop
🎙️ From ‘Shut Up and Dance’ to Benson Boone: Captain Cuts on Crafting Iconic PopSeason 2 of Producer Points kicks off with the hit-making duo Captain Cuts — Ben Berger and Ryan Rabin — whose songwriting and production credits include Walk the Moon, Bebe Rexha, Benson Boone, Halsey, The Chainsmokers, Tove Lo, Grouplove, and many more.In this episode, host Justin Gammella sits down with the longtime friends and collaborators to unpack how they’ve maintained success across over a decade in pop music. They discuss their evolution from managing and touring in a band to becoming in-demand producers and songwriters, how their surprise artist deal with Epic Records came to be, and the balance between being creators and curators.We dive deep into:🎵 The making of Benson Boone’s “There She Goes” — from piano jams to tempo-switching choruses🎵 Building Bebe Rexha’s “I Got You” and the wild vocal production journey behind it🎛️ Favorite gear, plugins, and how they split creative roles as a duo🎧 Their approach to demo mixes, final bounce philosophies, and vocal chain secrets🔥 Plus: Their first studio was raided by a SWAT team?! Yep.This episode is packed with insight, stories, and real talk from two of the best in the business.🎶 Check out the Producer Points Spotify Playlist for songs discussed in this episode:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2oqD4l6js2moC7r1DxqAR9

Apr 25, 2025 • 1h 40min
Roundtable: Analog vs. Digital with The Mixers Behind Death Cab, NOFX & David Kushner
In this roundtable edition of Producer Points, host Justin Gammella sits down with three seasoned producers and mixers to unpack one big question: Does analog gear still matter in 2025?As digital tools continue to evolve, the role of analog gear is less about necessity—and more about taste, process, and emotion. From workflow to sonics to studio philosophy, this episode explores the creative and practical reasons some of the best in the game still turn to hardware.🎙 Featuring:🔹 Martin Cooke – Mixer/producer for Death Cab for Cutie, Pearl Jam, Biffy Clyro🔹 Jon Graber – Producer/engineer with credits including NOFX, MxPx, and Capitol Records sessions🔹 Yianni AP – LA-based mixer/producer known for Jeremy Zucker, David Kushner, Alexander 23🎛 Topics include:The real reasons to still use analog gear in a digital worldHow analog shapes mindset, speed, and decision-makingBudget gear worth investing in (and what to skip)Their favorite chains, racks, and plugin equivalentsWhether analog is about sound… or just vibeWhether you're a hardware junkie or totally in the box, this episode is packed with insight from pros who've built careers blending both worlds.🎶 Check out the Producer Points Spotify Playlist:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2oqD4l6js2moC7r1DxqAR9

Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 16min
Roundtable: How To Level Up - From Bedroom Beats to Hits for Khalid, LP & David Kushner
From cracked DAWs to Billboard credits — this roundtable is all about what it really takes to grow.On this episode of Producer Points, host Justin Gammella is joined by three powerhouse producers to talk about leveling up — creatively, professionally, and technically — without losing the magic that got you started.🔹 Sarcastic Sounds – Artist/producer known for his signature lo-fi meets pop sound and co-writer/producer of “Daylight” by David Kushner.🔹 Mike Del Rio – Artist/producer and one half of Rio Kosta, with credits including LP, X Ambassadors, and Kylie Minogue.🔹 Denis Kosiak – Grammy-winning mixer/producer known for his work with Khalid, Normani, and more.🎛 In this episode:What gear is actually worth upgrading — and what’s notFile organization, studio vibe, and hosting like a proMindset shifts from casual creativity to professional consistencyHow to collaborate on bigger projects without losing your identityWhy scrappiness and instinct still matter as you growWhether you're scaling up your gear, your space, or your mindset — this episode is packed with practical insights and real talk.🎶 Check out the Producer Points Playlist:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2oqD4l6js2moC7r1DxqAR9

Apr 10, 2025 • 48min
Delayed, Devalued, Disrespected: Why Aren’t We Getting Paid?
🎙 Delayed, Devalued, Disrespected: Why Aren’t We Getting Paid?In this special solo episode of Producer Points, host Justin Gammella opens up about one of the music industry’s most frustrating and under-discussed realities: not getting paid on time—or at all.From indie artists to major-label collaborators, this episode dives into the broken system that delays payments for months (or even years), erodes trust, and pushes creators to the brink. Justin shares personal stories, behind-the-scenes experiences, and messages from other creators who’ve had enough.🎵 Topics covered:The song that went viral—but still hasn’t been paid outWhy it takes 6 to 12 months (or more) to see a checkThe emotional and financial toll of being ignored by labels and publishersVoice messages from real producers and writers sharing their storiesWhy this isn’t just about money—it’s about respect, equity, and survivalIf you’re a songwriter, producer, artist, or anyone in the music world, this one’s for you.🎧 Listen. Share. And if you’ve been through this too—reach out.🎶 Playlist: Producer Points Spotify Playlist

Apr 4, 2025 • 1h 18min
Roundtable: Letting Go of Perfectionism in Music Production
🎙 Letting Go of Perfectionism in Music ProductionOn this roundtable episode of Producer Points, we’re getting real about one of the most universal—and paralyzing—challenges for music producers: perfectionism. Host Justin Gammella is joined by three dynamic producers with unique workflows, candid stories, and practical wisdom on how to stop overthinking and start finishing music.🔹 Joe Pepe – LA-based producer/songwriter with credits including MGK, Travis Barker, and Kiana Ledé. Joe’s relaxed, intuitive approach blends rawness with polish.🔹 Stephen Conley – Songwriter, producer, and mixer known for his work with GAYLE. Stephen brings a thoughtful balance of technical precision and emotional instinct.🔹 Matt Parad – Alt-pop producer and composer for Tinashe and Olivia O’Brien. Matt thrives in minimalist, emotionally driven production environments.In this episode, we dig into:🎛️ The difference between refining and over-editing—and how perfectionism often hides as “just one more tweak”🎛️ The vocal comping trap: when endless takes kill the vibe🎛️ Building trust in your taste, and why your first idea is usually the right one🎛️ How to know when a song is done (hint: it’s usually a feeling, not a checklist)🎛️ Why committing to sounds, using templates, and simplifying your toolkit leads to better records🎛️ The high cost of mixing fatigue—and strategies for resetting your ears🎛️ The underrated magic of “imperfections” that make a record feel human🎛️ What letting go really means for both technical mixers and emotionally-driven artistsPlus:🎧 Listener Q&A covering vocal tracking limits, artistic perfectionism, mixing with crickets (literally), and whether AI tools are helping—or hurting—the creative process.🔥 Our unfiltered take on plugins like God Particle, Tonal Balance Control, and the surprisingly useful $30 Maserati Waves plugin.Whether you’re battling vocal takes, struggling to call a mix finished, or trying to break free from the loop of endless tweaks, this episode offers perspective, humor, and actionable tools to help you move forward.🎧 Listen now and give yourself permission to stop chasing perfect.🎶 Check out the Producer Points playlist featuring songs discussed in this episode: Producer Points Playlist

Mar 21, 2025 • 1h 24min
Roundtable: How the Producers Behind Powfu, Tinashe & Ella Mai Built Lasting Careers
In this engaging roundtable, Midi Jones, a versatile producer celebrated for his adaptability across genres, and Sarcastic Sounds, known for his unique lo-fi indie style, share insights on forging a lasting music career. They discuss the true meaning of sustainability beyond just hits, stressing the need to blend passion projects with paid work. The duo reveals secrets to navigating contracts, payment challenges, and the importance of building strong relationships in the industry. Their personal journeys inspire a fresh perspective on success in music production.

Mar 14, 2025 • 1h 46min
Roundtable: Vocal Production Secrets from the Pros Behind Sabrina Carpenter, BTS & Shawn Mendes
🎙 Crafting the Perfect Vocal Production: Secrets to Stellar VocalsOn this special roundtable episode of Producer Points, we're diving into the art and science of vocal production—one of the most crucial yet nuanced aspects of music creation. From tuning and layering vocals to fostering the perfect recording environment, host Justin Gammella is joined by three top industry talents who share their expert insights:🔹 Ryan Marrone – A versatile producer whose innovative touch has elevated projects for artists like Sabrina Carpenter and JP Saxe, consistently bringing fresh creativity and technical precision to every track.🔹 Alex Bilowitz – A songwriter and producer whose impressive credits include global icons BTS and Bebe Rexha. Beyond his chart-topping work, Alex might just be one of the greatest keys players around—and he's equally known for his sharp humor and engaging studio presence.🔹 DJ Kyriakides (Daylight) – Renowned for his versatility, DJ Kyriakides (Daylight) has produced hits across genres for artists like Shawn Mendes and Fifth Harmony. His keen musical instincts and adaptive production style make him a respected figure in the industry.In this episode, we break down:🎵 The essentials of vocal production: roles, responsibilities, and balancing technique with artistry.🎵 Gear and pre-production strategies: microphone choices, vocal warm-ups, and setting session expectations.🎵 Creating the ideal atmosphere: techniques to help vocalists feel comfortable, confident, and ready to deliver their best performances.🎵 Technical insights: A deep dive into vocal tuning software (Melodyne, Auto-Tune, Waves Tune), clip gaining strategies, and vocal layering.🎵 Mixing magic: EQ and compression tips that will ensure vocals sit perfectly in the mix.🎵 The rise of AI-generated vocals: Impacts, challenges, and ethical considerations for producers.Join us as we reveal insider tips and techniques that can take your vocal productions to the next level.🎧 Listen now and elevate your vocal production game!

Feb 27, 2025 • 1h 18min
Roundtable: Spotify’s Pay Cuts: What It Means for Songwriters & Producers
🎙 Spotify’s Pay Cuts: What It Means for Songwriters & ProducersFor the first time on Producer Points, we’re bringing you a roundtable discussion on one of the most pressing issues in the music industry—Spotify’s recent rate changes and their impact on songwriters, producers, and artists.Host Justin Gammella is joined by two incredible guests to break down what’s happening, why it matters, and what can be done about it:🔹 Scott Robinson – Grammy-nominated producer, songwriter, and engineer with a diverse career spanning major labels, indie success, and everything in between. A returning Producer Points guest and fan favorite.🔹 Jeremy Silver – Powerhouse songwriter and producer with credits including Christina Aguilera, Michael Bublé, and countless major sync placements. He’s also a candidate for the ASCAP Board of Directors, advocating for songwriter rights.Together, they dive into:🎵 The Spotify rate decrease: How bundled services like audiobooks have led to significant cuts in publishing payouts.🎵 The songwriter master share debate: Should songwriters get a percentage of the master, or is this just a band-aid solution?🎵 Producer points & publishing struggles: The challenges of tracking royalties, why fees may be a better alternative, and what needs to change.🎵 What’s next? How songwriters and producers can push for fairer rates, the role of unions, and whether major catalogs can leverage power over streaming platforms.This episode is a must-listen for anyone in the music industry who wants to understand where things stand and what the future holds for songwriters and producers.🎧 Listen now and join the conversation!🎶 Don’t forget to check out the official Producer Points playlist on Spotify featuring songs discussed on the show. Listen here.


