

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
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We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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Jun 20, 2022 • 1h 14min
246 | Is Farming Worth Investing In? Ft. Muhammed Bukhari
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Muhammed Bukhari. What has his life been like? Spending 22 years in London and what was the trajectory of his career there? How and why did he shift to farming? Starting the Mango business, and how does it work? Increasing the shelf life and what constitutes high-quality mango? Pre and post-harvest roles and water efficiency. How do they identify the moisture levels in plants? What are they currently up to? How to get the Nitrogen and stress levels of the soil? How often do they guide the farmers through the report? How do they make money? Are partners available in Pakistan? What’s their B2B channel like? What is G1 Garlic? What value are they providing? What is the Ratoon crop? How did they end up raising $130000 Million in seed funding? How do they plan on using this money? Where are they located? Are we water-scarce or can it be used more effectively? What are Pakistan’s agriculture ecosystem flaws? How are they bringing change? Eventually, will they help farmers in deciding which crop to buy? How are they doing in this economic downturn? What’s the feedback like? What is the potential investment opportunity? What’s his opinion on the current ecosystem? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Jun 17, 2022 • 1h 22min
245 | Pakistan’s First Ever Google Developer Expert Ft. Saad Hamid
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Saad Hamid. What has Saad’s journey been like? What was living in Skardu like? How was communication back then? Saad’s opinion on why he thinks he was bullied? What was his educational journey like? Does GPA matter? What factors contributed to his success? Are your younger siblings usually inquisitive? How did he earn money at the time? Why did he sell it? Why did he join Jazz? What was his role in Jazz? What position did he move to next? Why did he switch jobs? How was his time in Invest2Innovate? How did he launch his own company and how did it go? What was DEMO about? Jadu and what it’s focused on? Launching a co-working space and why he left it? How did he end up at Google? What is his current role at Google? Everything about the Jadu career app and career progression? What does this app entail? What does their general aptitude test do? Will Jadu become a career companion app? IT exports and lack of developer talent? What’s the issue? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Jun 15, 2022 • 1h 14min
244 | CEO Jazz Aamir Ibrahim & Executive Director Dastgyr Saif Ali
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In tonight’s conversation with our special guests, Aamir Ibrahim and Saif Ali. What has Aamir's journey been like? When and how did he join Mobilink? How was Jazz launched? How did his career progress? When did they acquire WARID and how did it convert into JAZZ? How has Jazz evolved over time? What are their goals to make Pakistan digital? What was the merger advantage and what other initiatives do they have on the go? Why is customer engagement important to them and when can we expect a super-app? What is the "Jazz World" and "Tamasha" app? Why are they interested in local content development? How did they end up raising Pakistan’s largest series A with $37m raise? How is Jazz adding value to this? Will they maximize the potential of digital? Can we expect friction costs to reduce? How can this reduce corruption? How are they enabling trade? Why retail? Why is their partnership valuable? Who provides the inventory? Eventually, can Dastgyr become the main source of supply? Was it risky to announce it during this time? What is the next step? Why has 5G not been introduced in Pakistan yet? How can the internet situation in Pakistan be improved? Luxury Vs. Necessity and Spectrum. Why did they partner with Nayatel and why is our internet so unstable? How does Aamir envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and so much more in tonight's episode.
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Saif Ali (Executive Director - Dastgyr)
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Jun 13, 2022 • 1h 8min
243 | Which Socio-Economic Class Are You From? Ft. Kashif Hafeez Siddiqui
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Kashif Hafeez Siddiqui. What has Kashif’s Journey been like? Have our teachers changed over time? How does “Shayari” help us in practical life? Do poets still exist in today's world? Is it useful for communication? Teaching Urdu to our kids and the educational journey. What was Kashif’s first job? Joining “Oasis” & pursuing master's. Which jobs did he change? How did “Pulse Consulting” begin? Where is the company right now? What did he learn during his marketing research and what are the different cultural bands in Pakistan? The socio-economic classes in Pakistan and PSLM? What is his opinion of the media? Where is Media’s viewership headed? How do you define your target market? How are they gathering insights? Is digital media replacing traditional methods? What is their analysis of the youth of Pakistan? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Jun 10, 2022 • 1h 3min
242 | How To Market & Sell Your Product? Ft. Haseeb Khan
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Haseeb Khan. What has his journey been like? The BNU experience? Can defining your children's lives have an impact on them? Why did he choose to pursue design back then? What is the importance of freelancing? Haseeb’s experience in 9Lines and how did he begin to get additional work? What was it like to work in the fashion industry? Fashion Designer Vs. Corporate brands? Was it a collaborative effort? What kind of gear did they use? Why did he shift from Canon to Sony? Why do they use A7R3 & A73? When did he leave fashion and what did he shift to? What aspects of Product Photography did he tap into? Why did he start his own business? How did he meet his wife? How did they end up getting married? What does his wife do? Does working in the same place affect them? What do they sell on Mytype.Store? How was it sourcing from Pakistan? Are their supplies currently in order? How many returns do they get? Are they creating a lifestyle brand? Does Sales Tax impact them? How do they plan on scaling it? The importance of boosting your product? Can we upscale our designers? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Jun 8, 2022 • 2h 28min
241 | Why Are Startups Laying Off Employees? Ft. Haziq Ahmed
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Haziq Ahmed. What has Haziq’s journey been like? The self-exploration stage, what exactly is TIP, and how did he end up there? What were the teachers there like? What is textile 101? Textile product science and their buying house? How did he figure out this model won’t work and what did he do about it? What was Haziq’s own brand like? What is CMT? How did they add value and end up expanding the business? Applying to the University of Manchester and getting accepted. How was Haziq’s first-ever exhibition? What was he exactly doing at the time? What was the reason for the shutdown? How did he end up finding a job? What was he selling and how did his career progress? Why did he return to Pakistan? How did he help create a digital store and why did it fail? How did he become a brand manager for KAPRAY and how did it go? What is Pakistan’s apparel market like? How did Zellbury happen and why did he end up moving to Alkaram Studio? How much of our western wear is sourced locally & how much is imported? What is the economics of Pakistan’s apparel market? Why aren't our brands more widely recognized? What is elo’s model and why is it smart? Why did he switch to Foodpanda? What challenges was Foodpanda facing at the time? How was Haziq’s technical interview? How did they grow? Are food delivery companies profitable? How to make it operationally positive? Is there utility in electric mobility? Shifting to Dukan.pk? Why did he start his own company? What are they exactly building? What is Krave Mart? Where are they operating currently? What’s their vision? Is it profitable to digitize it? Why have they used AI-based surveillance? What else will they integrate and why? Is last-mile logistics creating a problem? How will they optimize it? What did they do with the money they raised? Will there be mergers and acquisitions? Are riders being ill-treated and is something being done? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Jun 6, 2022 • 1h 13min
240 | Directing a SPIDERMAN Fan-Film Ft. Saboor Akram
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Saboor Akram. What has Saboor’s journey been like? How did he get his camera skills? How did he decide what path to take? When did he begin his professional career? Saboor’s breakthrough? How did he end up making the Spiderman fan fiction film? What steps did they take with the sensor board? The premiere and what were his learnings? What are his plans for the future? Why did he choose to go to Turkey? What is Saboor currently doing? What is an “Era film”? What problems do we face? What type of era film will he be making? Reason behind Pakistan's film industry's lag? What is the main problem that causes this? How can we solve this? Saboor’s thought on Rahim Pardesi’s film? What do we lack? Why are we behind the Indian cinemas? How has Saboor changed his mindset? Importance of finding the connection? What is the storytelling in Pakistan like? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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00:00 Tonight’s guest: Saboor Akram
00:54 Saboor’s Journey!
02:25 How did he get his camera skills?
04:10 How did he decide what path to take?
06:23 When did he begin his professional career?
07:22 Saboor’s break-through
08:07 How did he wind up making a Spiderman fan film?
11:05 What steps did they take with the sensor board?
12:44 The premiere
12:53 What were his learnings?
13:17 What are his plans for the future?
19:36 Why did he choose to go to Turkey?
21:33 What is Saboor currently doing?
22:12 What is an “Era film”?
22:28 What problems do we face?
23:45 What type of era film will he be making?
26:01 Reason behind Pakistan's film industry's lag?
28:42 What is the main problem that causes this?
37:22 How can we solve this?
46:47 Saboor’s thought on Rahim Pardesi’s film
50:42 What do we lack?
51:07 Why are we behind the Indian cinemas?
55:41 Problem solving
58:18 How has Saboor changed his mindset?
1:01:38 Finding the connection
1:03:30 Storytelling in Pakistan
1:09:55 How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050?
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Jun 3, 2022 • 1h 50min
239 | Is EdTech Reshaping Pakistan's Educational Landscape? Ft. Fahad Tanveer
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Fahad Tanveer. Where has Fahad previously worked? What has Fahad’s Journey been like? How did he end up at LUMS and how did it go? Economics Vs. Development economics? How does this mix with political science? What did he do post-graduation? What was Fahad’s first business and how did he manage to do it? How was his MBA experience? Why should one do an MBA? The LUMS to Harvard journey and Fahad’s first job. Economics Vs. Finance? How was it like joining Telenor Easypaisa? Why did he end up moving to Nestle? What is PNL? What was it like working for Milo? Why did he leave it? Why did he choose to support his wife at the time? What program did he choose to do? When and why did he do his second masters? Where did they get the thought to start Edkasa? How did they figure out the problem? What solution did they find and how was it implemented? How and why did they scale it? Why should one pick Edkasa? Is change in the mode of assessment impacting them? How does tech evolve and how can it be made better? What will make a difference? How does he see Edkasa and Pakistan 30 years from now? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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May 30, 2022 • 1h 8min
238 | How To Make Money Through Graphic Designing? Ft. Areeb Tariq
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Areeb Tariq. How was his trip to Nathia Gali? What has Areeb’s journey been like? What is his father's occupation? After O-Levels, how can you attend university? What gave him the ability to be so good at what he does? Was he a student and a worker? How did he move to Pakistan and how did it go? When did he begin freelancing, why did he do so, and how is it going? How does one go about becoming a competent graphic designer? The shift in mentality and how things are changing? What is RadicalX? Their courses and when to attend them? Why did he decide to build a community? How much does the course cost? Was he successful in cultivating talent in his classes? Karachi Vs. Islamabad culture. Ajeeb Studio, why did he choose to call it “Ajeeb”? When was this launched and what’s it about? What is fashion to Areeb? Is it possible for Pakistani street fashion to succeed? What’s different about the GenZ? A class on “How to Google?” How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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May 27, 2022 • 1h 43min
237 | Who Destroyed Karachi? Ft. Ameer Jamaat-e-Islami Karachi - Hafiz Naeem Ur Rehman
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Hafiz Naeem Ur Rehman. What has Naeem’s journey been like? How did he enter into student politics, and why did he do so? In terms of politics, what happened back then? What is currently happening? Why is it so complicated? His thoughts on what happened in KPK? What’s the problem with this system? What’s the problem with this system? Why doesn't democracy flourish? How can the problem be solved? How can the feudal mentality be overcome? What does the government sector need to do? What are they planning to do? What happened in PMDC? What does he think should be done? Why couldn’t Karachi get the Sehat Card? Are Karachi's political parties now merely advocacy groups? Thoughts on making Karachi the federating unit? De facto & De Jure? Why were there no censuses and what impact does this have? What are the grounds for this? Population censuses, voter lists, and its practical implications. Loadshedding and wafaqi service quota? Are they ready for the elections? Karachi’s local body act? Do they have the right? What will the next local government election entail? What’s the actual problem with water and what’s the solution? How is the water being distributed? Does the Local Body have authority over this? Mass transit program and why has work not been done? How has the city managed to stay afloat? Current law and order situation in Karachi? What he has to say to the people of Karachi? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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