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Want to know how to interpret the Bible with humility and maturity in a fractured and polarized culture? This deep-dive conversation between Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, Bonnie, and returning guest Tim Gombis continues the "Misunderstanding the Bible" series by peeling back the layers on hermeneutics, historical assumptions, interpretive power dynamics, and the posture Christians bring to Scripture. The episode kicks off with an honest reflection on listener feedback about tone and disdain when critiquing political and theological stances—offering a real-time example of the humility and self-critique Tim Gombis later emphasizes as vital to responsible interpretation. They then unfold a richer vision of reading the Bible—not as a storehouse of propositional truth or ammunition for proving others wrong, but as an invitation to be mastered by the text, to date it (i.e., live with it over time), and to discern its logic through community, cross, and new creation lenses. Key Takeaways: • Rethinking Hermeneutics – Why "sound hermeneutics" alone can't guarantee truthful or faithful readings of Scripture, and how that too often reinforces existing power structures. • Reading as Formation, Not Control – How interpretive posture—not just methodology—determines whether we're being shaped by the Bible or using it to control others. • Scripture as Relationship – Tim Gombis introduces the idea of "dating the text," encouraging long-term, immersive reading to let Scripture reveal its shape. • Welcoming the Tension of Disagreement – How church leaders can hold space for unresolved tension around issues like sexuality, while remaining faithful to Jesus' call for unity, humility, and welcome. • Using the Bible Without Weaponizing It – Addressing the damage done when Scripture is used to enforce ideology rather than facilitate community discernment. Guest Highlights: Dr. Tim Gombis – New Testament scholar and Professor at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary. Known for his work on Paul, the New Testament, and the ethics of interpretation, Tim brings incisive insight and disarming humility. He challenges listeners to move beyond modernist methods and into a deeper, community-shaped reading of Scripture that is faithful to both text and Spirit. Resources Mentioned: • Richard Hays' Model – Community, Cross, and New Creation framework for biblical ethics. • Kevin Vanhoozer – Essay in Evangelical Futures on interpretive approaches. • Romans 1–2 and 14–15 – How Paul's rhetorical flow shapes our ethics and humility. • Church Discipline in 1 Corinthians 5 – Differentiating destructive behavior from personal journeys. • Gospels (especially Matthew and Mark) – Drawing insight from Jesus' approach to judgment, hospitality, and discernment. • N.T. Wright – The Bible as a unified story told through genre-rich literature. Find yourself grappling with how to interpret Scripture in our polarized world? Whether dealing with hard conversations around sexuality, church unity, or biblical authority, this episode offers a framework of humility, curiosity, and transformation. Be part of the community striving to read the Bible responsibly and graciously. Subscribe, leave us a review, and follow us on social media to continue this essential conversation. Write to us: hello@voxpodcast.com Join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram: @voxologypodcast Check out the YouTube channel: VOXOLOGY TV Support us on Patreon and explore our Merch Store on Etsy Learn more at voxologypodcast.com Music by Timothy John Stafford — @GoneTimothy on socials Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Check out our curated Spotify collections at Voxology Radio As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How embracing spiritual homelessness can lead to deeper maturity, richer community, and a more authentic vision of Jesus. In this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie dive into the emails and reflections flowing from their recent "Spiritually Homeless" and "Future of the Church" conversations. Together, they unpack tough theological questions, critiques about the direction of the show, challenges in church culture, and moments of clarity about why spiritual tension may actually be a gift. This isn't just a mailbag—it's a soul-searching conversation about making space at the table for spiritual wanderers, the marginalized, and those disillusioned by religious systems that fail to reflect Jesus. From deconstruction fatigue to gender roles in ministry, from megachurch questions to forgiveness journeys, this episode is a snapshot of a diverse and longing community seeking to build something new—together. Key Takeaways: • Spiritual Homelessness as Growth – Why questioning, discomfort, and feeling adrift spiritually can invite deeper relationship with Jesus and others. • Inclusivity and Justice in Church Leadership – How unclear or harmful stances on women in ministry directly impact not just individuals but entire congregations. • Forgiveness as a Path to Community – A powerful testimony on how personal healing after church hurt created space to re-engage faith and community without bitterness. • Holding Tension Well – The team discusses how to balance critique with grace, truth with love, and tradition with transformation. • Redefining Church – Honest reflections on small group dynamics, megachurch systems, and how house churches or new forms might open room for hard conversations that foster belonging. • Making Jesus Beautiful – Responding to feedback about the tone of recent episodes and the ongoing desire to point everything—critique included—toward the real Jesus. Quotes Worth Noting: • "True spiritual maturity is being at peace with people no matter where they're at. Even if you vehemently disagree, they're still worthy of dignity, respect, and love." • "If our spiritual homelessness causes others to feel alienated, that's not growth—it's gatekeeping in new clothes." • "Forgiveness wasn't about them—it was about clearing my soul enough so I could hear God again." Resources Mentioned: • Episode 195 – "Spiritually Homeless" • "The Patient Ferment of the Early Church" by Alan Kreider • "Resident Aliens" by Stanley Hauerwas and William Willimon • Past "Future of the Church" conversations with Tim Gombis, Sky Jethani, Andy Crouch, and Rick • Zenos Christian Fellowship model – [Link to learn more about their house church discipleship structure] Call to Action: Share your story of spiritual tension or hope with us! Email us at hello@voxpodcast.com and let us know what you're learning on your journey. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on your favorite podcast platform and social media to stay part of the Voxology community. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more: voxologypodcast.com Support the Podcast: Patreon Listen on iTunes or Spotify Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford (@GoneTimothy) As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Recovering Paul's radical gospel for today's church, Mike Erre sits down with Pauline scholar Dr. Timothy Gombis for an honest and theologically rich conversation that peels back cultural assumptions and reexamines the complexities—and power—of Paul's letters. From ancient household codes to modern questions about gender, race, power, and sexuality, Mike and Dr. Gombis explore how Paul's vision of Christ-shaped community invites us into a radically inclusive, justice-seeking, cruciform way of life. Key Takeaways: • Reframing Paul's Letters – How misreadings shaped by evangelical subcultures distort Paul's intent on topics like women, sex, slavery, and sin. • Household Codes as Subversion – Understanding how Paul uses Roman structures not to uphold, but to radically counter, systems of power and honor through a Jesus-centered ethic. • Cross-Shaped Discipleship – How Philippians 2 models a life of relinquishing privilege and embracing others in humility, community, and solidarity. • White Privilege and Christlikeness – How a posture of listening, repentance, and mutuality allows privileged Christians to walk in the way of Christ's self-emptying love. • Hospitality over Judgment – Why the gospel's call to LGBTQ+ individuals must begin with deep welcome, shared burden-bearing, and long-term relational faithfulness—not assumptions or demands. • Redefining Power in the Church – Exploring why Paul, if alive today, would likely be bewildered by large, production-oriented churches and how they contradict his vision of humble, table-sharing communities. Guest Highlight: Dr. Timothy Gombis – A New Testament scholar and author of "Paul: A Guide for the Perplexed" and "The Drama of Ephesians." Tim brings scholarly depth and pastoral wisdom to help the modern church rediscover Paul's radical, Christ-centered message. His reflections challenge listeners to approach Scripture with fresh eyes and courageous faithfulness. Resources Mentioned: • Paul: A Guide for the Perplexed by Timothy Gombis – [Link] • The Drama of Ephesians by Timothy Gombis – [Link] • "Faith Improvised" podcast by Tim Gombis – [Link] • Michael Gorman's scholarship on cruciformity – [Link] • "Family Values and the Rise of the Christian Right" – [Link] • Philippians 2:5-11 and 2 Corinthians 4:7-12 – Key Scripture • Timothy Gombis's blog archive and GRTS SoundCloud teaching library – [Link] Join the movement of rekindling a just, humble, and inclusive church rooted deeply in the person of Jesus. Subscribe to Voxology, leave a review, and follow us on your favorite social platforms to join the community. As always, we encourage your thoughts and engagement. Email your questions to hello@voxpodcast.com and connect on Instagram and Facebook. Watch full episodes on VOXOLOGY TV on YouTube Grab official Voxology merch in our ETSY store For more about the podcast, visit voxologypodcast.com Subscribe via Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the show on Patreon Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Original music by Timothy John Stafford – @GoneTimothy on Instagram & Twitter. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How do we rediscover the bold, persistent faith that moves God to act? In this special bonus episode, Mike Erre shares a powerful message on prayer originally delivered as a sermon—highlighting Jesus' teaching in Luke 11 about "shameless audacity" and its role in how we approach God. With encouragement from Tim Stafford, this episode revisits Mike's prior work as a teaching pastor to dive deeper into how chutzpah—or bold, shameless persistence—is validated and encouraged by Jesus himself. This thoughtful exploration challenges the idea that prayer is merely a religious exercise. Instead, Mike argues it is a powerful invitation to partner with God in shaping the world. By walking through Luke's gospel and highlighting five remarkable stories of radical faith, he shows how outrageous persistence and unfiltered honesty in prayer are not just acceptable—they're expected. Whether you're feeling lost in prayer or longing to re-engage with God more authentically, this episode is a genuine call back to honest, transformative communion with the divine. Key Takeaways: • Bold Prayer Matters – Jesus encourages persistent, shameless audacity in prayer, not polite hesitation. • God Responds to Chutzpah – From a midnight bread request to healing interruptions, the Gospels are full of examples where bold faith moved Jesus to act. • Prayer as Partnership – The biblical narrative constantly points to God inviting us into cooperation, not passive observation. • We Have Not Because We Ask Not – Sometimes we don't receive simply because we don't ask boldly or at all. • It's About Who We're Talking To – The goal isn't to manipulate God with perfect words, but to fully trust the goodness of the Father. Resources Mentioned: • Luke 11 – The parable of the midnight requester and Jesus' model prayer. • Luke 5, 7, 8, 18 – Examples of people practicing prayer and faith with shameless persistence. • James 4:2 – "You do not have because you do not ask." • Genesis 18 – Abraham negotiating with God over Sodom. • 2 Kings 20 – Hezekiah's faithful prayer and God's merciful response. • Other references: Exodus, Jeremiah, Ezekiel Let us know if this is a format you'd like to hear more of—sermon reflections that unveil a different side of the Voxology conversation. Reach out with feedback and share your own stories of learning to pray with chutzpah. To continue engaging with conversations that challenge, restore, and reframe faith through Jesus's mission of love and justice—subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media. As always, join the conversation! Email us your thoughts at hello@voxpodcast.com and follow along on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Check out our Merch Store: VOXOLOGY on Etsy Learn more about the podcast: voxologypodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the show on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does the church navigate a shifting cultural and theological landscape in the next 20 years? In this landmark 200th episode—affectionately dubbed "Bruce"—Mike and Tim are joined by longtime friend and thought leader Skye Jethani (Holy Post, With God Daily) to explore the future of Christianity in America. With Skye's background in pastoral ministry, publishing, and theological reflection, this conversation dives deep into how the church is evolving amidst political polarization, disillusionment with institutions, and the rise of digital influence. Mike and Skye unpack where traditional evangelicalism is heading, the resurgence of both progressive theology and fundamentalist reactions, and how the church might reclaim its relevance outside institutional structures. They also reflect on parenting, discipleship, political entanglement, and fostering wisdom over certainty in an era of endless foreground decisions. Key Takeaways: • Evangelicalism Is Shifting – Despite the outward success of conservative evangelical institutions, the theological convictions of younger churchgoers are aligning more with progressive Christianity. • The Rise of Fundamentalism on Both Ends – Cultural fragmentation and digital targeting are accelerating fundamentalist movements on both the right and left, leaving little space for thoughtful middle-ground discipleship. • Post-Cold War Christianity Requires Discernment – The church must move beyond 'us vs. them' culture-war mentalities and learn how to live wisely—embracing complexity over clarity. • Why Some Are Moving Past the Church – Disillusionment with power-driven churches and institutional failures is leading many to seek spiritual growth outside formal religious structures. • Hope for the Future Church – A remnant centered on Jesus, empowered by rest and love, and driven by the actual mission of God is quietly forming "outside the spotlight," echoing leaders like Dallas Willard and others who simply "smelled like Jesus." Guest Highlights: Skye Jethani – Co-host of the Holy Post podcast and curator of the "With God Daily" devotional, Skye reflects on his decades of ministry experience to offer a systemic lens for understanding where American Christianity is going—and what must change. Resources Mentioned: • With God Daily Devotional App – withgoddaily.com • Upcoming Book – "What If Jesus Was Serious?" (Moody Publishers) • The Holy Post Podcast – holypost.com • Dallas Willard – Teacher and author of The Divine Conspiracy • John Walton's Old Testament scholarship • Genesis 1, The Sermon on the Mount, and Parable of the Wheat and Weeds – Explored in the context of a wisdom-driven view of Scripture Look forward to more conversations tackling the biggest questions about faith, culture, theology, and the mission of Jesus. Thanks for walking with us these 200 episodes! Help us keep the conversation going—subscribe, leave us a review, and follow our community online. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can the American church evolve to be more courageous, inclusive, and authentic in the decades to come? In the second installment of our Future Church Series, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford talk with longtime friends Kristen Howerton and Andy Lara about the current state of the church in America and what needs to change for it to thrive in the future. Kristen—a clinical psychologist, writer, and founder of "Rage Against the Minivan"—shares how motherhood, mental health, and social justice shaped her faith journey and her critique of modern evangelicalism. She opens up about the limits of aesthetic Christianity, the damage caused by politicized faith, and why she started Orange County's wildly popular Beer and Hymns gatherings as an inclusive alternative to traditional church. Andy, co-founder of the Vox Podcast and an experienced podcast and media producer, reflects on the rapidly evolving landscape of church communities born from decentralized platforms like podcasting, and how church models need to abandon image obsessions and redefine leadership, success, and storytelling to truly reflect the imago Dei. Key Takeaways: • Political Entanglement and Church Decline – Kristen critiques the evangelical church's alliance with political ideologies and how it's alienated the very people Jesus calls us to serve. • Inclusive Church Experiences – Why affirming, justice-centered, and spiritually rich spaces are critical to the future of the church's witness and survival. • Beer and Hymns as Sacred Resistance – Kristen details how a bar sing-along became a sacred space and blueprint for what post-church community could look like. • Revisiting the Power of Podcasting – Andy reflects on how podcast-centered communities like Vox offer a model for spiritual belonging in a digital-first world. • Image-Obsessed Christianity – How performative church culture, celebrity pastors, and aesthetic branding distort the gospel and marginalize real people. • The Gift of Exile – Why stepping outside of the traditional church model may be the path back to Jesus' true mission. Guest Highlights: Kristen Howerton — Psychologist, writer, and podcast host of "Selfie." Founder of "Rage Against the Minivan" and co-creator of Orange County's Beer and Hymns. Andy Lara — Vox Podcast co-founder, media producer, disability advocate, and creative consultant behind impactful digital church communities and podcasts. Resources Mentioned: • Selfie Podcast – selfiepodcast.com • Rage Against the Minivan – rageagainsttheminivan.com • Red Letter Christians – redletterchristians.org • Preachers in Sneakers – Instagram • "Beer and Hymns" National Chapters – [Google Search or local chapter pages] Join the movement of questioning, rediscovering, and reforming the church. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone curious about the future of faith. We'd love to hear from you with questions or comments—email hello@voxpodcast.com or find us on Instagram and Facebook. Check out our merch: ETSY Watch on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voxology Radio – Voxology on Spotify Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook Music from Timothy John Stafford | IG & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the American church can face a rapidly changing culture by reclaiming its missionary identity, simplifying institutional models, and empowering the next generation of leaders. In this special edition kicking off a three-part mini-series for the 200th episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford revisit some of their favorite past guests to explore one timely question: What is the future of Christianity and the church in America? This episode features thought-provoking conversations with pastor and author Rick McKinley and biblical scholar Bonnie Lewis, offering contrasting perspectives from Portland to the greater deconstructed margins. Key Takeaways: • The Church as a Missionary Movement – Why American churches must stop existing for self-preservation and start embodying the mission of Jesus in a post-Christian culture. • Permission & Imagination – Gen X leaders must give way to innovative younger voices and support new forms of church that don't rely on traditional models of buildings, salaries, or Sunday-centric programs. • Reclaiming Deep Ecclesiology – The church isn't a preaching event or a building—it's a Spirit-filled alternative community of justice, simplicity, and love in a hostile world. • Preparing for Harvest and Hostility – Why the future belongs to churches that can thrive under cultural resistance and economic challenges, including the potential loss of tax-exempt status. • Thriving on the Margins – What Bonnie Lewis sees as the emerging future: diverse, justice-oriented, healing communities that move beyond white evangelicalism and toward a multi-voiced church. Guest Highlights: • Rick McKinley – Pastor of Imago Dei Church in Portland and author of "Faith for This Moment." Rick brings decades of pastoral insight and urges a drastic shift toward empowering bivocational leadership and simplifying church to spark real kingdom impact. • Bonnie Lewis – Bible translator and author who champions honest, inclusive conversations on faith and spirituality. Bonnie celebrates hopeful dialogue in a polarizing era and envisions the future church as more representative, just, and relationally safe. Resources Mentioned: • Faith for This Moment by Rick McKinley • Imago Dei Church – https://www.imagodeicommunity.com • The Vulgar Bible by Bonnie Lewis – https://www.bonnielewis.com/thevulgarbible • Episode 200 Series – Stay tuned for upcoming episodes featuring Kristen Howerton, Andy Lara, and Skye Jethani Have thoughts on the future of Christianity in America? We'd love to hear from you. Email your reflections to hello@voxpodcast.com or connect with us on social media. Don't miss what's next—subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology to stay rooted in the ongoing conversation. We're on YouTube if you're into that kinda thing: VOXOLOGY TV Check out our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Voxology Radio on Spotify: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Peeling back layers of modern Christianity's most pressing questions, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie journey into a spirited and vulnerable mailbag episode that challenges traditional assumptions around social justice, obedience, desire, and discipleship. Through listener questions and current events, the team engages in an honest—and often humorous—debate about what it really means to deny oneself, how cultural experience shapes theology, and why "just quoting a Bible verse" isn't often sufficient in addressing global and personal stories of oppression or pain. This episode particularly dives deep into the tension between desire and surrender, how systems of theology can unintentionally cause harm, and whether the church is meant to care solely for its own—or extend justice and mercy beyond its walls. Using voices from early Christian history to current church controversies, the Voxology crew explores messy, complicated—but vitally important—themes of love, privilege, repentance, justice, and formation. Key Takeaways: • The Limitations of "Sufficient Scripture" – Why relying solely on scripture without lived experience can ignore systems of privilege and harm, especially in conversations about social justice. • Is Denying Ourselves Always Righteous? – Discussion around "death to self" and how it's often misused to silence or suppress identity, particularly among the marginalized. • Desire, Identity & the LGBTQ+ Conversation – Exploring how not all desires are equal in cultural weight or consequence, especially for those whose desires are tied to aspects of identity that have been historically rejected by the church. • Justice Within and Beyond the Church – Why early Christians were radical for not just supporting their own poor, but also caring for their Roman neighbors—and what that means for the church today. • Weaponizing Obedience – How well-intentioned calls to faithfulness can often reinforce harmful systems, and the need to rethink the language we use around sin, sacrifice, and obedience in pastoral contexts. Resources Mentioned: • Rodney Stark – The Rise of Christianity • 1 Peter 2:12 – "Live such good lives among the pagans…" • Julian the Apostate's Letters – Historical evidence of Rome's reaction to Christian charity • Dallas Willard's Teachings – Especially regarding "joyful non-compliance" • John Coe (Talbot School of Theology) – On sin management and relational spirituality Join the conversation and help reshape Christian community for a more just and Christ-centered world. If you've ever wrestled with obedience, struggled with your desires, or questioned the church's response to injustice—this one is for you. Don't forget to email your questions to hello@voxpodcast.com or join us in the conversation on Facebook or Instagram. We're on YouTube! VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe and leave a 5-star review on iTunes or follow us on Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Why does questioning your beliefs sometimes feel like a risk? What if the fear of being punished by God for struggling with doubt or shifting perspectives isn't from God at all? Mike Erre reunites with preacher and Bible scholar Bonnie Lewis for a deep dive into the tensions we face when navigating grace, obedience, and identity in Jesus. Using stories from Scripture—like the woman with the alabaster jar and Zacchaeus—and their own vulnerable questions, they explore Jesus's radically inclusive posture and how it challenges both conservative and progressive assumptions about sin, justice, and what it means to repent. This conversation invites listeners into the beautiful but complicated reality that Jesus does more than simply include—he calls, renames, invites, and reorients. Together, they wrestle with questions of personal and communal repentance, whether God punishes us for doubt, and how Jesus's grace meets us before transformation but continually invites us into deeper maturity and freedom. Key Takeaways: • Jesus's Inclusivity Had a Purpose – His scandalous association with outcasts wasn't just for relational comfort; it was a powerful, theological act toward renewing Israel's vocation to embody God's love and justice. • Repentance Is Not Sin Management – Jesus's call to repentance isn't about obeying a moral checklist but reorienting our lives around grace, belonging, and God's deeper purposes for flourishing. • Grace Comes First, Always – Bonnie and Mike unpack how God blesses before we "get it right," yet still gently draws us towards a fuller experience of Shalom. • When Grace Feels Like Punishment – An honest discussion about internalized religious trauma, including Bonnie's story of grief after loss and wrestling with old beliefs around God's retribution. • The Danger of Mislabeling Repentance – Labeling people groups as needing to "repent" misplaces the call Jesus made—a communal restoration that points to healing, not exclusion. Guest Highlight: Bonnie Lewis – A longtime friend of Voxology and advocate for fresh, thoughtful theology, Bonnie brings years of scriptural study, teaching, and real-life vulnerability to this conversation. She challenges cultural-and-church assumptions with grace, humor, and authenticity. Resources Mentioned: • The Lost World of the Torah by John H. Walton – Link • Exclusion and Embrace by Miroslav Volf – Link • Dallas Willard and Grace-Filled Discipleship – Reflections on living into the "A" already given by God • Scripture References: Luke 7, Luke 19, Ephesians 4, Romans 12, The Gospels (broad skimming on Jesus's inclusivity and calls to repentance) Open-hearted, intellectually honest, and spiritually nourishing, this episode invites listeners to walk the tension between grace and transformation—and to stay curious about what Jesus is doing in the cracks between certainty and mystery. We'd love to hear what resonated with you! Join the conversation by emailing us at hello@voxpodcast.com or interacting on Facebook and Instagram. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who needs a fresh take on Jesus's grace. We're also on YouTube! Check out VOXOLOGY TV Shop Voxology merch & support the show: ETSY Learn more and explore past episodes at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support future conversations on Patreon Follow us: Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: Voxology Podcast Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford – Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A raw and honest reflection for those who feel caught between theological tribes, yearning for a deeper, more authentic faith. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford launch a new conversational series responding to what it means to feel spiritually homeless in today's polarized Christian landscape. With candid vulnerability, they explore disillusionment with both progressive and conservative church cultures, and ask: Is it possible to center on Jesus without selling out to one side? This isn't cleaned-up theology with neatly drawn boundaries—it's a space of wandering, questioning, and rebuilding. If you're exhausted by toxic church politics, doctrinal quarrels on social media, and weaponized theology, this episode offers a breath of fresh (and sometimes messy) air. Key Takeaways: • Feeling Spiritually Homeless – How social media and church rhetoric are creating deep disillusionment for believers who don't fully align with conservative or progressive categories. • Christianity Without a Tribe – Naming the middle space between polarized camps and asking what it looks like to pursue Jesus without a political or doctrinal allegiance. • Weaponized Theology – The hosts critique how theology is used more to divide and condemn than to heal and restore, particularly around issues like female leadership and LGBTQ+ inclusion. • Both/And Faith – Mike reflects on the tension of holding both conservative and progressive convictions about sin, grace, masculinity, sexuality, and the authority of the Bible. • Radical Inclusion and Subversive Exclusivity – Looking to the early Church for a model that embraced all people while challenging societal norms and oppressive empires. Resources Mentioned: • Acts of the Apostles – Early Church as a model for inclusion and radical discipleship • Voxology Podcast Episode #61 – "Stages of Spiritual Maturity" (referenced as foundational to this conversation) • "Resident Aliens" by Hauerwas & Willimon – Reference for Christian community as an alternative to culture Join the movement toward being a home for the spiritually homeless. This episode is the start of a powerful new arc centering on Jesus—his life, teachings, and what it means to follow him in our complex world. Help shape the community by sending your thoughts, questions, and experiences to hello@voxpodcast.com. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on your favorite podcast platform and social spaces. You can also watch us on VOXOLOGY TV, grab some merch at our Etsy store, or support us on Patreon. Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter at @mikeerre Original music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy