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Dec 14, 2022 • 26min

The Wanderer: The Story of "O Holy Night" (Songs of Resistance Series: Part 1)

Launching a new mini-series under The Wanderer banner, Tim Stafford embarks on an exploration of worship—not as performance or emotional manipulation, but as resistance, reorientation, and the embodiment of justice. This reflective episode traces Tim's journey from burnout with worship-leading to rediscovering the true heart of worship through scripture, history, and music. In this premiere installment, Tim unpacks the history and radical impact of the Christmas anthem "O Holy Night," connecting its forgotten abolitionist roots to the deeper calling of worship as cultural and spiritual counter-programming. Key Takeaways: • Worship is a deeply human and formative act—constantly shaping us, whether we recognize it or not. • True Christ-centered worship should serve as resistance to societal idols like nationalism, consumerism, and individualism. • The purpose of worship is not to boost God's ego, but to reorient ourselves toward justice, community, and God's kingdom. • "O Holy Night" is more than a Christmas classic—it became a powerful abolitionist anthem in 19th century America. • Counter-programming through liturgy, music, communion, and teaching acts as liberation for communities seeking shalom. Reflections from the Episode: "Worship isn't for God because He needs it—it's for us, because we do." "We're always worshiping something—songs, symbols, brands. The question is: what are we ascribing worth to?" "When worship becomes truly communal, it dismantles hierarchy, promotes unity, and invites liberation." Resources Mentioned: • "O Holy Night" – Historical analysis and modern re-recording coming soon in this series. • Placide Cappeau – Author of original French poem "Minuit, Chrétiens" • John Sullivan Dwight – Translator and abolitionist who popularized the hymn in the U.S. • The Wanderer Series Archive – Watch on VOXOLOGY TV Join Tim on this journey of rediscovering worship as a practice rooted in resistance, justice, and community-building. Subscribe, leave a review wherever you listen, and follow along on social media to reflect, deconstruct, and reimagine this essential practice of faith. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Dec 12, 2022 • 1h 10min

Unveiling Women's Roles in Early Christianity: A Conversation with Dr. Lynn Cohick

Explore how Dr. Lynn Cohick, a distinguished Pauline scholar, reinterprets the roles of women in the early church and challenges traditional readings of key biblical texts. Mike and Tim engage in a deep discussion on passages like 1 Timothy 2 and 1 Corinthians 14, uncovering how cultural context and historical insights can reshape our understanding of women's participation in ministry and leadership within the church. Key Takeaways: Women in the Early Church – Discover the significant contributions of women in early Christian communities and how they actively partnered with men in ministry. Re-examining 1 Timothy 2 – Learn how understanding the cultural and historical background of Ephesus reveals new perspectives on this often-debated passage. Cultural Context and Biblical Interpretation – Understand the importance of considering ancient cultural norms and practices when interpreting scriptures about gender roles. Overcoming Educational Barriers – Hear Dr. Cohick's personal journey navigating challenges in theological academia and advocating for women's education in the church. Addressing Gender Hierarchies Today – Discuss how to move beyond hierarchical structures and embrace a more collaborative, inclusive approach within the modern church. Guest Highlights: Dr. Lynn Cohick – Provost of Northern Seminary and renowned New Testament scholar specializing in Pauline studies. Dr. Cohick shares her expertise on women's roles in the early church, offers fresh interpretations of critical New Testament passages, and reflects on her experiences overcoming obstacles in a male-dominated field. Resources Mentioned: Women in the World of the Earliest Christians by Dr. Lynn Cohick The Alabaster Jar Podcast – Listen here 1 Timothy 2 and 1 Corinthians 14 – Biblical passages explored in depth Dorothy Sayers' Essay – Are Women Human? Join the conversation and delve deeper into the discussion of women's roles in the church. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay updated on future episodes. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Dec 5, 2022 • 1h 5min

Inside the Mind of White Evangelicals: Fear, Power, and Collective Narcissism - w/ Dr. Dave Verhaagen

Uncover how fear and collective narcissism shape the worldview of white evangelicals and what this means for the future of the church. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford engage in a thought-provoking conversation with psychologist Dr. Dave Verhaagen about his book "How White Evangelicals Think," exploring the psychological factors influencing evangelical culture, politics, and identity. Key Takeaways: • Fear's Influence on Evangelicalism – Understanding how fear drives self-interest and the desire for power within white evangelical communities. • The Concept of Collective Narcissism – Exploring how collective narcissism manifests in the church and impacts interactions with those outside the group. • Psychology Vs. Theology – Discussing the idea that the evangelical worldview is more influenced by psychological factors than theological beliefs. • Power Dynamics and Cultural Shifts – Analyzing how changing demographics and loss of cultural dominance affect evangelical responses to social issues. • Path Forward for the Church – Considering steps the church can take to address these psychological dynamics and better reflect the mission of Jesus. Guest Highlights: Dr. Dave Verhaagen – A seasoned psychologist and author of "How White Evangelicals Think." Dave shares deep insights into the psychological underpinnings of evangelical culture, offering a unique perspective on fear, power, and identity within the church. Resources Mentioned: • "How White Evangelicals Think" by Dr. Dave Verhaagen – [Link to the book] • Voxology Podcast – voxologypodcast.com Join the conversation as we delve deep into the psychological influences shaping the evangelical church today. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay connected. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Nov 28, 2022 • 1h 7min

Reexamining 1 Timothy: Empowering Women in Church Leadership

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the controversial passage of 1 Timothy 2:11-15, challenging traditional interpretations that have restricted women's roles in the church. By unpacking the historical and cultural context of Paul's letters, they shed light on how misreadings have led to harmful theology and discuss actionable steps to embrace women's leadership as a biblical mandate. Key Takeaways: Understanding the Cultural Context – How the early church's battle against false teachings, like Gnosticism, influenced Paul's instructions and how this impacts our interpretation today. Clarifying Misinterpretations – Examining the original Greek language to reveal that Paul's restrictions were specific, temporary measures rather than universal commands. The Importance of Women in Ministry – Highlighting biblical examples of women leaders and the necessity of their gifts for a healthy, effective church. Missionary Motives of Paul – Understanding Paul's intent to present the gospel attractively in different cultures without unnecessary offense. Addressing Harmful Theologies – Discussing the real-world consequences of misapplied scriptures on women's roles and how to move towards a more inclusive church community. Join Mike and Tim as they advocate for a more faithful reading of scripture that honors and empowers women in all areas of church leadership. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay engaged with the conversation. Resources Mentioned: Philip Payne – Man and Woman, One in Christ 1 Timothy 2:11-15 – Read the Passage Previous Episodes on Ephesians and Gender Roles – Voxology Podcast Episodes As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Nov 21, 2022 • 1h 1min

Embracing Mystery and Curiosity: Asking Better Questions of the Bible - w/ Marty Solomon and Tyler Chernesky

Discover how embracing mystery and asking better questions of the Bible can deepen your faith and transform your understanding of God. Marty Solomon, host of the BEMA Podcast and author of the upcoming book Asking Better Questions of the Bible, shares his journey from fundamentalist evangelicalism to a faith rooted in curiosity and openness. Together with co-hosts Mike Erre and Tim Stafford, and joined by returning guest Tyler Chernesky, they explore how reframing our approach to Scripture can lead to a more authentic and vibrant spiritual life. Key Takeaways: • Embracing Mystery and Curiosity – Learn how adopting a posture of curiosity toward Scripture fosters a deeper, more authentic faith. • Asking Better Questions of the Bible – Marty discusses the importance of reframing the questions we bring to the Bible, moving beyond seeking certainty to exploring wonder and awe. • Deconstruction as a Natural Part of Faith – Understanding deconstruction not as something to fear but as a necessary process in spiritual growth and maturity. • Reframing Genesis and Human Identity – Discover a new perspective on Genesis 1–3, seeing our fundamental identity rooted in goodness and creation's inherent value. • Navigating Uncertainty – Embracing the discomfort of not knowing as an essential part of faith, leading to greater empathy and less judgment. Guest Highlights: Marty Solomon – Host of the BEMA Podcast and author of the upcoming book Asking Better Questions of the Bible. Marty shares his personal journey from fundamentalist evangelical roots to embracing his Jewish heritage and a more inquisitive approach to Scripture. Tyler Chernesky – A pastor and collage artist, Tyler discusses how Marty's teachings have profoundly impacted his faith journey, helping him find rest, renewal, and a deeper love for Jesus and people. Resources Mentioned: • Marty Solomon's Website – martysolomon.com • BEMA Podcast – bemadiscipleship.com • Pre-order Asking Better Questions of the Bible by Marty Solomon – [Link] • Rob Bell's Teachings • Ray Vander Laan's Teachings • Frederick Buechner's Writings Join us on this journey of embracing mystery and curiosity in your faith. Share your experiences and questions by emailing us at hello@voxpodcast.com. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay connected. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Nov 14, 2022 • 1h 12min

Woman Up! Challenging Biblical Masculinity

Unpacking how traditional views on biblical masculinity may limit our understanding of true humanity, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the complexities of gender roles, anger, and equality within Christianity. They explore how striving for predefined standards can hinder new creation dynamics, and advocate for embracing a fuller, more holistic view of humanity as modeled by Jesus. Key Takeaways: Moving Beyond Fixed Standards – Why seeking a clear-cut standard for masculinity or femininity can lead to a watered-down version of following Jesus. Healthy Expression of Anger – Discussing how acknowledging and expressing anger is part of being fully human, and how Jesus exemplified this in his life. Interpreting Gender Roles in Scripture – Analyzing the Bible's accommodation to patriarchy versus its affirmation of equality, and how to navigate this complexity. Role of Women in the Church – Highlighting the significant contributions of women in early Christianity and questioning traditional interpretations that limit their roles. Joyful Noncompliance – Embracing Dallas Willard's concept as a way to resist harmful stereotypes and pursue true humanity in Christ. Resources Mentioned: "Finally Feminist" by John Stackhouse – [Link] Beth Allison Barr's Writings – [Link] Scott McKnight's Teachings – [Link] Dallas Willard's Concept of Joyful Noncompliance – [Link] Join the conversation as Mike and Tim challenge long-held beliefs, share personal experiences, and encourage listeners to rethink traditional gender norms in light of Jesus' teachings. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Nov 7, 2022 • 58min

Man Down! Paul's Radical Call for Mutual Submission in Ephesians 5

Unpacking how Ephesians 5 reverses the curses of Genesis 3, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford explore the implications of mutual submission over traditional gender hierarchies. Responding to listener feedback on biblical masculinity, they delve into Paul's radical subversion of ancient household codes and what this means for the modern church's understanding of gender roles. Key Takeaways: • Challenging Traditional Views of Biblical Masculinity – Addressing listener questions and concerns about how the church portrays masculinity and the harm of rigid gender roles. • Ephesians 5 and Mutual Submission – Analyzing Paul's instructions in Ephesians 5, highlighting how he promotes mutual submission and redefines relationships within the church community. • Reversing Genesis 3's Power Struggle – Exploring how Paul's message in Ephesians 5 offers a reversal of the hierarchical relationships resulting from the Fall, advocating for equality and reciprocity. • Understanding Ancient Household Codes – Examining the cultural context of the pater familias and how Paul's teachings subvert societal norms of the time. Resources Mentioned: • Articles by Marg Mowczko – https://margmowczko.com/ • Bible Project Classroom on Genesis 1-3 – https://bibleproject.com/classroom/genesis-1-3/ • Ephesians 5:18-6:9 – Bible Gateway Call to Action: Join us as we delve into these complex topics and challenge traditional interpretations. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to continue the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Oct 31, 2022 • 51min

How to Be a Christian Nationalist: Rethinking Scripture and Politics - w/ Kaitlyn Schiess

Explore how rethinking Christian Nationalism can transform the way we read scripture and engage politically. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford dive deep with theologian and author Kaitlyn Schiess, discussing the intersection of faith, politics, and the Bible, and how pastors and believers can navigate political issues faithfully without partisanship. Key Takeaways: Understanding Christian Nationalism – Examining the historical and modern perspectives on Christian Nationalism and its influence on American Christianity. Reading Scripture Politically – Insights on how to read scripture responsibly in political contexts without cherry-picking verses. The Role of the Holy Spirit – Discussing how reliance on the Holy Spirit guides us in discerning how to engage with political issues and scripture. Challenges for Pastors – Addressing the practical difficulties pastors face when engaging political topics within their congregations. Learning from Black Christian Traditions – Exploring how Black Christians historically engage scripture through narrative and community, offering valuable lessons for the broader church. Guest Highlights: Kaitlyn Schiess – Doctoral student at Duke Divinity School, co-host of the Holy Post Podcast, and author of The Liturgy of Politics. Caitlin shares her wisdom on navigating the relationship between scripture and politics, Christian Nationalism, and the importance of relying on the Holy Spirit. Resources Mentioned: The Liturgy of Politics by Caitlin Schess – [Link] Holy Post Podcast – https://www.holypost.com/ Getting Schooled – Caitlin's segment on the Holy Post Podcast. Spirituals and the Blues by James Cone – [Link] Maria Stewart's Writings – [Link] James Cone's Writings – [Link] Martin Luther King Jr.'s Writings – [Link] Join the conversation and explore how rethinking Christian Nationalism and engaging scripture can transform our approach to politics and faith. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow the Voxology Podcast on social media. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Oct 24, 2022 • 1h 25min

Man Up! Unmasking 'Alpha Male' Christianity: Embracing Biblical Masculinity Through Weakness and Community

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford challenge the rising trend of toxic "alpha male" Christianity, unpacking how the pursuit of power and dominance contradicts the biblical understanding of masculinity. Diving deep into Genesis, they explore how true biblical manhood embraces weakness, interdependence, and community, rejecting cultural idols of power and control. Through personal stories and scriptural analysis, they reveal how enshrining the curse of dominance from the Fall distorts the Gospel and harms both men and women. Key Takeaways: • Rejecting Toxic Masculinity Narratives – Understanding how modern "alpha male" movements conflict with biblical teachings on humility and dependence on God. • Biblical Masculinity Redefined – Exploring Genesis to uncover God's original design for men and women as equal image-bearers needing community and partnership. • Embracing Weakness and Dependency – Recognizing that acknowledging our limitations leads to deeper intimacy with God and others, and is central to living fully in His Kingdom. • The Danger of Enshrining the Curse – Identifying how perpetuating power struggles and dominance is a result of the Fall, not God's intent, and how this harms relationships and the church. Resources Mentioned: • "Wild at Heart" by John Eldredge – Available on Amazon • "Seriously Dangerous Religion" by Ian Provan – Available on Amazon Join the Conversation: Join us as we rethink what it means to be a man in today's world according to biblical principles. Share your thoughts and experiences by emailing us at hello@voxpodcast.com. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay connected and be part of the ongoing discussion. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Oct 17, 2022 • 1h 31min

The Power and Threat of Moral Policing: From Iran's Revolution to Western Christian Nationalism - w/ Pastor Suzie Lind and Dr. Timothy Gombis

How the morality police in Iran became a symbol of oppressive theocracy, and why Christians in the West must pay attention. In this special edition of Voxology, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and special guest Susie Lind (an elder, pastor, and Iranian-American) dive into the recent wave of women-led protests in Iran following the death of Mahsa Amini. The conversation explores the historical context of Iran's revolution, the internal trauma of displacement, and the deeply personal ties Susie holds to the current uprising. They draw unsettling parallels between Iran's morality police and Western theocratic impulses taking shape in America. The team is later joined by theology professor and podcaster Tim Gombis for a broader conversation on the seductive pull of ideological tribalism, the myth of Christian cultural dominion, and the revolutionary call to be good neighbors rather than spiritual conquerors. Key Takeaways: • Iran's Current Uprising – How Mahsa Amini's death sparked a generational resistance movement led by Iranian women, and why this moment feels different than past protests. • The Legacy of the Iranian Revolution – Susie Lind shares her personal story of fleeing Iran during the 1979 revolution, highlighting the deep historical wounds and the dangers of theocratic governance. • Moral Policing in the West – How contemporary Christian laws in the U.S. reflect elements of Iran's morality enforcement, including citizen-based reporting and forced moral conformity. • Christian Nationalism and Power – Tim Gombis tackles the origins of culture war theology, tracing it back to colonialism and capitalism's grip on Christianity. • Redefining "Loving Your Neighbor" – Why telling others the "truth" isn't biblical love unless grounded in self-sacrificial relationship and humility. Guest Highlights: Susie Lind – Iranian-American pastor and elder at Vox Church, shares from a profoundly personal lens what the Iranian protests mean for her family and heritage. Dr. Tim Gombis – Professor, host of the Faith Improvised podcast, and author of "Power in Weakness" and "The Drama of Ephesians," offers incisive commentary on how ideologies twist the gospel and trap the church in culture wars. Resources Mentioned: • Faith Improvised Podcast – Subscribe here • "Power in Weakness" by Tim Gombis – Buy the book • Shirin Sadeghi and Global Iranian Voices – Recommended accounts for following on-the-ground reporting • History of the Iranian Revolution – Detailed Overview • Voxology Episodes on Revelation Series – Reframing biblical themes around power, exile, and ideology Join the conversation as we stand in solidarity with those seeking justice, freedom, and dignity. Share this episode, spread awareness, and consider what it means to resist coercive ideologies—wherever they appear. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media. As always, we encourage and welcome your questions and reflections. Email us at hello@voxpodcast.com, and join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Get Vox Merch: ETSY Store Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast: Patreon Follow us on Instagram @voxologypodcast and Facebook Voxology Podcast Music by Timothy John Stafford | Instagram/Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

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