

Odd Lots
Bloomberg
Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway explore the most interesting topics in finance, markets and economics. Join the conversation every Monday and Thursday.
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Dec 4, 2023 • 51min
What Dead Malls Tell Us About the Future of Commercial Real Estate
Liza Crawford, a seasoned portfolio manager at TCW specializing in commercial real estate, dives into the fascinating evolution of shopping malls and their implications for the future of commercial real estate. She discusses the stark contrasts between thriving upscale malls and declining traditional ones. The conversation shifts to the parallels between retail and office spaces, highlighting the critical role of consumer demand. Liza also emphasizes innovative strategies landlords must adopt to navigate post-pandemic challenges and the transformative potential of technology in the industry.

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Dec 1, 2023 • 32min
Lots More with Brad Setser
In this discussion, Brad Setser, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, dives into Argentina's complex economic challenges following Javier Milei's election. He highlights the radical proposals, such as dollarization and abolishing the central bank, questioning their feasibility. Setser reflects on Argentina's history of defaults and reliance on international funding, analyzing the implications of aggressive fiscal strategies. The conversation also touches on past dollarization efforts in other countries, providing valuable insights into potential pathways for the nation.

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Nov 30, 2023 • 39min
Josh Younger Explains How Banks Really Manage Rate Risk
Josh Younger, a senior advisor at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and former JPMorgan researcher, dives deep into the intricacies of bank rate risk. He discusses why banks often hesitate to pass on interest rate hikes to customers and explores how depositors' behavior shifts in different economic climates. The conversation reveals the challenges banks face with duration risk and the stability of deposits, highlighting the delicate balance between maintaining depositor rights and ensuring effective lending strategies.

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Nov 29, 2023 • 40min
A Stunning Lawsuit Could Change How Realtors Get Paid
In this engaging discussion, Andra Ghent, a finance professor at the University of Utah and real estate expert, dives into the recent lawsuit shaking up the real estate industry. She explains how brokers have allegedly colluded to keep commission fees inflated and the implications of the $1.8 billion verdict. Ghent also highlights the persistent inefficiencies in the market, the need for more consumer-friendly payment models, and the potential for transformative changes in how real estate transactions are structured.

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Nov 27, 2023 • 46min
Goldman's Jan Hatzius Believes the Hard Part Is Over
Jan Hatzius, Chief Economist at Goldman Sachs, brings his macroeconomic expertise to explore the surprising resilience of the economy in 2023. He discusses why the anticipated recession didn't materialize and shares insights on favorable trends like disinflation and the strength of the labor market. Hatzius highlights the disconnect between rising unemployment rates and traditional recession indicators. With growing optimism about a potential soft landing, he believes we could be on the path to economic stability as 2024 approaches.

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Nov 23, 2023 • 59min
Magic the Gathering's Creator Wants to Create an Even Better Game
Richard Garfield, the genius behind Magic: The Gathering, joins forces with Arka Ray, CEO of Popularium and former Microsoft developer. They dive into the challenging balance between collectability and gameplay in card games, sharing insights from Magic's rise and complicated market dynamics. The duo also discusses the innovative game design philosophies they're applying to their upcoming project, Chaos Agents, aiming to create a more inclusive and creatively driven gaming experience while avoiding past pitfalls.

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Nov 22, 2023 • 40min
Here's What's Going Wrong in the US Offshore Wind Industry
Chelsea Jean-Michel, an offshore wind industry analyst at BloombergNEF, sheds light on the current struggles facing the U.S. offshore wind sector. She discusses rising commodity costs, project cancellations, and the impact of high interest rates on financing. Comparisons with the U.K. highlight the U.S. sector's regulatory challenges and bidding complexities. Jean-Michel emphasizes the need for strong state policies and a diverse energy approach to overcome these hurdles and effectively contribute to decarbonization efforts.

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Nov 20, 2023 • 46min
Why Private Credit's Been Booming Even as Interest Rates Go Up
The podcast explores the booming market of private credit and its surprising resilience despite rising interest rates. It discusses the differences between private credit and corporate debt, and delves into the benefits of direct lending. The impact of increasing interest rates on the macro environment, companies, and defaults in the broadly syndicated market is examined. The podcast also explores how the credit industry has managed to avoid defaults and concerns about illiquidity in the private credit market.

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Nov 17, 2023 • 55min
The Fed's Michael Barr on Real-Time Payments and the Basel Endgame
Michael Barr, Vice Chair for Supervision at the Federal Reserve, is at the forefront of banking regulation and the rollout of FedNow, a new real-time payment system. He discusses the evolution of payment systems and how FedNow aims to reduce transaction fees while addressing recent bank collapses. Barr emphasizes the need for proactive risk management and regulatory adaptation to support sectors like clean energy. The conversation also touches on the balance between financial innovation and regulation, highlighting challenges posed by cryptocurrencies.

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Nov 16, 2023 • 40min
Lina Khan Is Sending a Message to the Private Equity Industry
Lina Khan, Chair of the Federal Trade Commission and a prominent antitrust advocate, shares her novel approach to competition law. She discusses her lawsuit against a private equity firm buying up anesthesiology practices in Texas, highlighting its implications for healthcare and market competition. Khan expands on the scary impact of serial roll-up strategies and touches on political pushback against her initiatives. She even reveals insights into how antitrust laws could redefine healthcare dynamics, infused with anecdotes about the complexities of the U.S. system.


