

BRAVE Southeast Asia Tech: Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand & Malaysia Startups, Founders & Venture Capital VC (English)
Jeremy Au
Learn from Southeast Asia's best tech leaders. Build the future, learn from our past & stay human in between. No B.S on success. Southeast Asia's #1 startup & venture capital podcast with 80,000+ listeners.
Hosted by Jeremy Au. VC & serial founder. Harvard MBA & UC Berkeley. Sci-fi nerd & dad of two daughters. Growth and personal growth solves all problems. The best feeling is coaching good humans to be great leaders.
Published on Monday & Thursday. Weekly tech news debates, changemaker interviews & listener Q&As.
Community of listeners and guests across Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia & the Philippines. Global top 10% podcast.
"Learned a lot from the journeys. Must-listen for anyone seeking advice to be a leader" @lindatangxy
"Refreshing to hear from distinguished founders what they learned, both the good & bad" @seanojw
"Incredibly useful in kickstarting my thought process around customers as an entrepreneur" @klowetan
"After tuning into a couple of episodes, this is now my weekly routine. Keep it up!!" @joshrodes8
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Hosted by Jeremy Au. VC & serial founder. Harvard MBA & UC Berkeley. Sci-fi nerd & dad of two daughters. Growth and personal growth solves all problems. The best feeling is coaching good humans to be great leaders.
Published on Monday & Thursday. Weekly tech news debates, changemaker interviews & listener Q&As.
Community of listeners and guests across Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia & the Philippines. Global top 10% podcast.
"Learned a lot from the journeys. Must-listen for anyone seeking advice to be a leader" @lindatangxy
"Refreshing to hear from distinguished founders what they learned, both the good & bad" @seanojw
"Incredibly useful in kickstarting my thought process around customers as an entrepreneur" @klowetan
"After tuning into a couple of episodes, this is now my weekly routine. Keep it up!!" @joshrodes8
Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.comWhatsApp Weekday Insight: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02eSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4TnqkaWpTT181lMA8xNu0TYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyAuApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/brave-southeast-asia-tech-singapore-indonesia-vietnam/id1506890464Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyauInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauzTwitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyauLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea
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Feb 20, 2024 • 33min
Rachel Wong: Law ChatGPT AI Revolution, Bastardized YC SAFE & Founder Legal Templates with FDLite - E384
Rachel Wong, startup lawyer & Founder of Founders Doc, and Jeremy Au discussed three main topics:
1. Law ChatGPT AI Revolution: Rachel discussed how ChatGPT is revolutionizing the legal profession and changing the way lawyers interact with clients and how they draft and amend legal documents. Rachel explained the significance of legal AI companies, such as Litera, in enhancing the efficiency of drafting processes for lawyers by clearly understanding and addressing their specific needs.
2. Bastardized Y Combinator Safe Agreement: Rachel delved into the complexities of the Y Combinator (YC) Safe Agreement and its impact from various perspectives including economic and control rights. She discussed the maladaptation of the Safe Agreement over time in response to economic shifts and the dynamics of negotiation power between startups and investors.
3. Founder Legal Templates: Rachel noticed increased demand by clients using online templates and AI for legal document amendments. They have launched FD Lite, a platform designed to make legal documents more accessible and affordable, especially for startups in the early stages of fundraising.
Jeremy and Rachel also covered the regulatory hurdles for legal entrepreneurs, increasing defensive specialization vs. commoditization within the legal sector, the expanding role of in-house legal teams, and the importance of making legal documents understandable to non-lawyers.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/rachel-wong-2
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Feb 18, 2024 • 27min
Singapore: Founders Reviewing VCs, Startup Fraud Triangle & Difficult Wind-Down Decisions with Shiyan Koh - E383
In this discussion, Shiyan Koh, Managing Partner of Hustle Fund, and Jeremy Au talked about three main themes:
1. Founders Reviewing VCs: Shiyan reflected on founders conducting due diligence on their funding sources. They discuss the value (and further improvements) of public reference lists like TechinAsia’s Glasswall which indexes the fundraising process, and how founders should seek private feedback from (post-fundraise) portfolio companies.
2. Startup Fraud Triangle: Jeremy and Shiyan examined the darker side of the regional startup culture, including fraudulent accounting trends and their impact on the local funding ecosystem. They agree that while most founders don't set out to defraud, poor decisions under pressure can take the opportunity to conduct unethical actions.
3. Difficult Wind-Down Decisions: The vast majority of startups fail to meet expectations after substantial fundraising. Shiyan shared the rarity but reputational importance of attempting to return capital to investors when a pivot isn't feasible. She advises founders to treat investors with respect during wind-downs, as the startup industry is a "repeated game" where one's actions can influence future opportunities.
They also talked about the emotional toll of admitting failure, potential for biased VC reviews, and the societal role of media in reporting startup successes and failures.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/founders-reviewing-vcs
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Feb 15, 2024 • 39min
Save Your New Year Resolutions, Misleading Weight Loss Industry & Personal Health Transformation with Nir Eyal - E382
Nir Eyal, Wall Street Journal bestselling author of “Hooked” and "Indistractable”, and Jeremy Au talked about three main themes:
1. Save Your New Year Resolutions: Nir discussed the nature of January 1 resolutions and the high rate of people abandoning their goals. He attributed this to a warped ecosystem of advice that fails to address the root causes of behavioral stagnation. He emphasized the importance of reconstructing routines to foster consistency, which is essential for rejuvenating lost aspirations. He advised to be thoughtful about the systemic approach to personal growth, rather than relying on transient motivations or flawed self-help strategies.
2. Misleading Weight Loss Industry: Nir took a critical look at the health and fitness industry, highlighting the ambiguity and often misleading information surrounding weight loss and exercise. He pointed out the vested interests in maintaining a level of confusion among consumers, with examples ranging from meal bars to dietary supplements. He advocated for debunking the quick-fix myths propagated by the fitness industry and a focus on the fundamentals: nutrition, regular exercise, and the importance of social connections.
3. Personal Health Transformation: Nir shared his personal transformation from being clinically obese to achieving fitness at the age of 46, highlighting his passions for surfing and running barefoot as key elements of his fitness regime. He also discussed his experiments with different activities, including the reasons why swimming and trampolining did not work for him and offered a personal perspective on finding joy in exercise and the trial-and-error process of discovering what works for individual fitness goals.
Jeremy and Nir also touched upon the broader implications of technology in facilitating behavioral change, the psychological challenges associated with dieting and exercise, and the role of community and social support in sustaining healthful habits.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/sustainable-health-habits
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Feb 13, 2024 • 31min
Trasy Lou: Uber & Atome GM Launching Markets, Motherhood vs. Entrepreneurship, and Fintech Founder Learnings - E381
Trasy Lou, Cofounder & CEO of Fluid, and Jeremy Au discussed three main topics:
1. Uber & Atome GM Launching Markets: Trasy highlighted the mission-driven culture at Uber, the importance of data-driven decision-making, and the autonomy she had as a GM. Her time as GM at two growth-stage startups exemplified the resilience required to lead teams towards a shared mission. She also discussed the unique challenges of market launching, emphasizing the value of playbook sharing across countries to avoid reinventing the wheel and accelerate growth. Key insights included setting stretch goals, hiring for potential, and fostering a flat organizational structure for open communication
2. Fintech Founder Learnings: Trasy discussed how she founded Fluid, a flexible financing solution for B2B purchases, amidst a funding winter. She outlined the challenges and learning curves associated with fundraising and starting a fintech startup during economically tough times. She dispelled common misconceptions about fintech, specifically the differences between consumer and B2B fintech solutions. She also gave her advice on fundraising, highlighting the need for preparation and strategic timing.
3. Balancing Motherhood & Entrepreneurship: Trasy shared her personal journey of balancing the roles of a GM, founder, and mother. Her experiences during critical moments at Uber, including having her water break during a conference call, underscored the underestimated strength of women in leadership positions. She emphasized the importance of support systems, both within organizations and at home, for successful entrepreneurship and parenthood.
Jeremy and Trasy also talked about scaling across different geographies, hiring for potential to build effective teams, and securing debt facilities in fintech.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/trasy-lou
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Feb 11, 2024 • 32min
Singapore: Silicon Box Unicorn, TheAsianParent Acquisition and Sovereign Wealth Fund Investment Shifts (GIC, Temasek) with Shiyan Koh - E380
Shiyan Koh, Managing Partner of Hustle Fund, and Jeremy Au covered three main topics:
1. Sovereign Wealth Fund Investment Shifts: Jeremy and Shiyan talked about how GIC conservatively deployed 46% less capital in 2023, and Temasek 53%. Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) deployed $31.6 billion in 2023, 53% higher than the $20.7 billion it invested the previous year - alongside other Gulf funds. This is due to high oil prices, investment mandates and national strategies to diversify their economies away from energy dependence.
2. Unicorn Silicon Box: Jeremy and Shiyan discussed Silicon Box (Singapore's latest unicorn), their veteran leadership and $2 billion Tampines facility build-out. They highlighted its role in the shifting landscape of semiconductor manufacturing in Southeast Asia and its implications for the region’s economic growth.
3. TheAsianParent Acquisition of Motherswork: Jeremy and Shiyan touched on the parenting platform’s strategy to expand from its digital roots into omnichannel physical retail. They also talked about the challenges brought by declining birth rates in several Asian economies, the dynamics of education, and national fertility & family policies.
They also touched on Noah Smith (Noahpinion with 139,000+ subscribers) wanting to work for Jacqueline Poh of Singapore's EDB (at the same managerial level as Patrick Collision of Stripe), and the reasons behind the interest in parenting startups in Southeast Asia, spanning services across childcare, IVF and egg freezing.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/fund-investment-shifts
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Feb 8, 2024 • 19min
Jobless = Useless = Meaningless Life, Unemployment Neurosis and Man's Search For Meaning - E379
Jeremy Au discussed the psychological impact of unemployment and its deep-seated effects on self-identity. Society often equates jobs with utility, and thus the determination of personal self-worth. Jeremy emphasized the importance of distinguishing between economic value and an individual's quest for purpose - beyond a series of professional achievements. He used examples from Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning” (a psychiatrist's memoir of surviving Nazi concentration camps) and Walter Kiechel's "Lords of Strategy" (Bruce Henderson bragged that he had been fired from all of his prior jobs prior to founding Boston Consulting Group (BCG)).
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/jobless-useless-meaningless
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Feb 6, 2024 • 33min
Ajay Bulusu: Google & Grab Mapping Challenges, Geospatial B2B API SaaS Insights and Layoff Resilience with Bold Steps - E378
Ajay Bulusu, Cofounder of NextBillion.ai, and Jeremy Au discussed three key topics:
1. Google & Grab Mapping Challenges: Ajay shared his mapping build-out at Google and Grab that had overcome geographic and infrastructural challenges in Southeast Asia - where standardization of data and addressing systems differ significantly from Western norms. He described how the team approached the problem with measures such as prioritizing high-traffic areas, leveraging data-driven strategies, testing machine learning, and crowdsourcing.
2. Geospatial B2B API SaaS Insights: Ajay delved into the complexities of developing a mapping technology stack and the balance between in-house development and outsourcing. He also shared the decision-making process companies face when choosing to build or buy.
3. Layoff Resilience with Bold Steps: Ajay recounted his personal story of resilience, particularly after being laid off from Google. He highlighted the significance of taking bold steps in challenging situations, like reaching out to the governor of California for help with his green card.
Jeremy and Ajay also talked about the role of technology in transportation and logistics, the evolution of the mapping industry, and B2B customer education strategies.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/ajay-bulusu
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Feb 4, 2024 • 30min
Indonesia: Young Democracy Elections, Gen Z & Millennial 52% Electorate Majority & 2023 Bear Market Reflections with Gita Sjahrir - E377
Gita Sjahrir, Head of Investment at BNI Ventures, and Jeremy Au discussed three main topics:
1. 2023 Bear Market Reflections: Jeremy and Gita touched on the local startup market downturn, the importance of sticking to business fundamentals and good corporate governance to navigate economic headwinds, and how VCs have to build trust with founders.
2. Indonesia Young Democracy: Gita walked through Indonesia’s relatively new electoral system, the negotiations process post the election, and the significance in shaping policy. She also touched on the young age of political parties and emphasized the increasing cooperation between the public and private sectors post-1998.
3. Gen Z & Millennial Electorate Majority: Gita shared her observations about Gen Z in Indonesia, noting their active involvement in politics and public service, idealism, and significant role in addressing environmental and inequality issues. She highlighted the differences and similarities between Indonesian Gen Z and their global counterparts, emphasizing their active engagement in the political discourse through modern communication mediums like short-form video like TikTok and Instagram Reels.
Jeremy and Gita also reviewed the evolution of democracies in Southeast Asia, the nuances of Indonesian politics, and the significance of party affiliations.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/indonesia-young-democracy
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Feb 1, 2024 • 17min
Society's Hunger For Heroes (Anthony Bourdain, Ali Wong) and The Stories We Tell Other People vs. Ourselves - E376
Jeremy discusses the stories that we tell ourselves, we tell others, and others tell about us. He contrasts Anthony Bourdain's self-descriptions in the travelogue "Parts Unknown," the posthumous Netflix documentary "Roadrunner" and the unauthorized biography "Down and Out in Paradise," ("I hate my fans. I hate being famous. I hate my job. I am lonely and living in constant uncertainty.") as well as the comedian Ali Wong's "Dear Girls" autobiography on family and her eventual divorce. He explained what consumers would gain from becoming more aware of the incentives behind self-representation vs. external narratives, the process of media gatekeeping, and society's hunger for heroes rather than imperfect humans.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/hunger-for-heroes
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Jan 30, 2024 • 33min
Aaron Fu: Africa Market Complexity, Terrorism Tragedy & Purpose and Venture Capital Mission - E375
Aaron Fu, VC at Digital Currency Group, and Jeremy Au talked about three main themes:
1. Venture Capital Mission: Aaron narrated his decisions to focus on fintech, venture capital, and emerging markets. He emphasized the importance of aligning professional choices with his personal values, and how investing as a career lets him help build the future
2. Africa Market Complexity: Aaron dissected the multiple frames of Africa's market, across country, city and vertical. He compared accessibility, infrastructural development, and political stability, with examples of how government regulations and competition with local telecommunications companies shape the practical business reality for emerging startups.
3. Terrorism Tragedy & Risk: Aaron shared about the tragic loss of a friend and colleague in a terrorist attack in Nairobi, Kenya. He discussed the real dangers of operating on the ground, and also the sense of purpose in building a better future for the next generation in Africa.
Jeremy and Aaron also talked about the impact of digital transformation, the evolution of consumer behavior, and the significance of building sustainable business models.
Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/aaron-fu
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