The Resilient Pastor

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Sharon Miller sits down with Glenn Packiam and worship pastors Luke and Anna Hellebronth to explore the relationship between senior pastors and worship leaders and why it matters for a healthy church. Drawing from their experience at Rockharbor Church, they discuss how trust, alignment, and shared vision shape both services and culture. They offer practical insight into planning, navigating creative tension, and partnering in leadership. This conversation equips pastors to build stronger, more aligned relationships with their worship leaders.Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with pastor and author Jay Kim to explore how church leaders can navigate technology and AI with wisdom and clarity. Drawing on ministry experience in Silicon Valley, Jay reflects on how digital tools can serve as a “front door” for connection while still pointing people toward embodied spiritual formation and community. Together they discuss how pastors can embrace innovation without losing the irreplaceable power of human presence in ministry.Pushpay exists to bring people together and help people be known. Through our innovative suite of products, we cultivate generosity by streamlining donation processes, enhancing communication, and strengthening connection. Visit Pushpay.com to explore how our digital solutions can support your mission and vision for the future of your ministry.Download Barna’s newest report, developed in partnership with Pushpay, Technology for Missional Impact, to explore how churches are using digital tools and AI to support ministry and mission. Download the report here.Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

Conversations about building trust and clarity between pastors and elder boards. Practical approaches to alignment, role clarity, and governance models. Stories on accountability, spiritual rhythms like prayer and devotionals, and board education and retreats. Real-world lessons from conflict and ways elders can offer concrete support to pastoral leaders.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Edgar Sandoval, president and CEO of World Vision, to explore what it means to lead through change while staying grounded in mission. Drawing from his experience navigating organizational disruption and global humanitarian challenges, Edgar reflects on steady leadership, spiritual resilience, and the practices that sustain leaders under pressure. The conversation also highlights the impact of global missions and how churches can partner in meaningful ways that foster dignity, agency, and lasting change.Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

Send us Fan MailRich Villodas sits down with Tyler and Kirsten Staton for a candid conversation about staying connected in marriage while navigating the demands and transitions of ministry life. They reflect on communication, emotional safety, and vulnerability between spouses, as well as the importance of recognizing and honoring one another’s spiritual gifts. The conversation also explores simple, sustainable approaches to prayer and what faithfulness looks like for couples walking through seasons of change.Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26.Discover how today’s families are changing—and how the church can strengthen family resilience. Download your copy of Barna’s The State of Today’s Family report.For more related insights, explore The Friendship Gap in Pastoral Life on Barna’s website.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Rich Villodas joins pastors Gabe and Jeanette Salguero to discuss what it means to pastor families in today’s church with greater awareness and care. Drawing on decades of pastoral leadership experience and insights from Barna research, the conversation explores the changing realities shaping modern family life. Together, they examine how pastors and church leaders can lead with presence, listen well to families’ needs, and develop family ministries that reflect the lived experiences of the people they serve. Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26Discover how today’s families are changing—and how the church can strengthen family resilience. Download your copy of Barna’s The State of Today’s Family report.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

David Kinnaman, CEO of Barna, joins the hosts to discuss eye-opening research on pastoral relationships. They dive into the paradox of strong marriages amid widespread loneliness among pastors. The importance of peer friendships and covenant groups for reducing isolation is emphasized. Kinnaman highlights the need for spiritual direction and regular soul care as vital lifelines. They also explore barriers to seeking help, including stigma and cultural pressures. This lively conversation sheds light on the importance of community and connection for pastoral resilience.

Send us Fan MailSharon Hodde Miller sits down with Bryan Loritts to discuss the future of preaching and why knowing your congregation is essential for faithful communication. They talk about navigating justice topics with biblical grounding, speaking into cultural pressure with integrity, and maintaining credibility in a skeptical age. Bryan also weighs in on the opportunities and limits of AI in sermon preparation.Text BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thrive for over 15 years with step-by-step tools to build a budget that fuels your ministry’s mission.Learn more about the services that Brotherhood Mutual offers at BrotherhoodMutual.com.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

Send us Fan MailGlenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller explore how pastors can disciple their churches toward worshipful, year-round generosity rooted in trust and vision. Framed by Barna research, they discuss how to cultivate healthy giving cultures, build trust with congregants, and wisely guide churches through year-end giving seasons and large capital campaigns.Text BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thrive for over 15 years with step-by-step tools to build a budget that fuels your ministry’s mission.Learn more about the services that Brotherhood Mutual offers at BrotherhoodMutual.com.Explore Barna’s latest insights on fostering a culture of giving here: How Churches Can Foster a Culture of Generosity.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

Jenni Catron, a leadership coach and the founder of The 4Sight Group, shares her expertise in cultivating healthy church staff cultures. She emphasizes the importance of trust built on character and competency, and discusses how clarity systems help integrate new staff. Jenni also addresses generational coaching needs and advocates for structured roles to enhance engagement. By offering practical feedback methods and assessing cultural gaps, she provides actionable insights for leaders seeking to foster a thriving team environment.