Work From The Inside Out

Jon is the executive director, life transition guide and learning facilitator at Liminal Space, a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping others find the courage and means to navigate major life transition. He spends his days guiding 1x1 transition sessions, leading transition groups called PIER groups, and facilitating learning workshops that teach transition skills at The PIER Learning Center at Liminal Space. Jon is also the host of a weekly podcast called, Life Through Transitions.Jon DeWaal’s mission is to help people create forward momentum by embracing their life’s most formative inflection points to create immense growth and transformation. He shares his career journey as a marketing consultant to a graduate degree in divinity to a painting contracting business, and then he fell off a roof. From there, he started to ask different questions and changed his story.In this episode we discuss:How Jon moved out to Seattle to attend graduate school and thought he would follow a traditional path, but chose to follow a different path right after graduation.His journey through a four-year transition where he was a contractor and started a family.Jon’s injury that ended up shifting his myopic focus on earning money to thinking deeply about his purpose.The tools and people who helped Jon see the beauty in transition.The sacred discipline of transition and how humans can thrive during those seasons of change and growth.All about Jon’s company, Liminal Space, and the Liminal Guide Certification Program that teaches people how to help others through transition.Links:Jon DeWaal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and InstagramLife Through Transitions podcasthttps://inaliminalspace.org/directory/jon-dewaal/Books mentioned in this episode:“Rising to Power: The Journey of Exceptional Executives” by Ron Carucci and Eric HansenOther Resources:Listen to my interview with Marie IncontreraLearn more about Ron CarucciStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

Melissa Smith is the CEO of The PVA (Personal Virtual Assistant) and Founder of the Association of Virtual Assistants. She is also the bestselling author of the books, Hire the Right Virtual Assistant and Become A Successful Virtual Assistant.As a former administrative and executive assistant, Melissa Smith has always been a service focused person. She’s never been afraid of a challenge and during the recession of 2008, she worked three jobs simultaneously. Then, in 2012, her husband died and she became the sole breadwinner in her household. She expanded her business to match virtual assistants with her clients who needed administrative help.In this episode we discuss:How Melissa got started as a secretary, then administrative assistant, and then executive assistant, all inspired by the example of her mother.Her decision to start her own business, the fact that she knew nothing about it, and the most important skill she took with her: “Nothing prepared me for being a business owner more than the fact I am a person who has always known that I will do what it takes to make it work.”How Melissa learned about coaching and decided to hire a career coach.Her journey from starting her own business to becoming the CEO, Founder, and author she is today.How Melissa discovered her first niche and how that helped her to write her first book.The different ways Melissa made every job one that she enjoyed. The Association of Virtual Assistants Melissa just started, its purpose, and how it will help both VA’s and clients in need. LinksMelissa Smith on LinkedIn and Twitterhttps://associationofvas.com/https://www.thepva.com/Books mentioned in this episode:“Hire the Right Virtual Assistant: How the Right VA Will Make Your Life Easier, Create Time, and Make You More Money” by Melissa Smith“Become a Successful Virtual Assistant: Learn the Business Side & Ditch 9 to 5” by Melissa SmithOther Resources:National Association for Women Business Owners (NAWBO)Association of Virtual Assistants (AVA)Stay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

David Kolb began his working career as a builder and general contractor. He has been an executive coach, educator, and leader himself. And as he often says about his professional work…I’m doing the same work. I simply changed the raw materials with which I work. He is the author of the book, Leadership From The Inside Out, which offers practical and proven applications to leadership.David’s energy and easily understood writing style come from decades of combining his varied life experiences, with his training in psychology, and applies all that to the environment, culture, and inner processes of emerging and veteran leaders. He shares his framework of seven capacities that people need to be able to navigate the transitions in their lives. Using the metaphor of a maestro, he says we must conduct our different parts to bring them together to what works best.In this episode we discuss:David’s premise that we all have many parts within us and as we go through a transition, we need to understand and orchestrate those parts like a maestro of an orchestra.His career journey that started in construction and moved to psychology and coaching.How a near-death experience awakened his spiritual journey and how that process led into some of the biggest transitions of his life.The “putting a new coat of paint” analogy he uses to describe how people try to remodel their lives without looking at a deeper level.How important it is for people to dismantle their expectations to grow.David’s book and the seven different capacities that are essential to being a leader.Links:David Kolb on LinkedIn and Facebookwww.insideoutleaders.netBooks mentioned in this episode:Leading From The InsideOUT, by David KolbOther Resources:Listen to my interview with Michael O’Brien who was deeply inspired by DavidLearn more about WYSE – World Youth Service EntrepriseStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

Diana Wu David is a former Financial Times executive, author of Future Proof: Reinventing Work in an Age of Acceleration, and adjunct professor at Columbia Business School EMBA Global Asia. She works with global leaders to enhance their ability to adapt, contribute, collaborate and grow and with organizations and boards that seek a competitive edge by enhancing leadership and engaging multi-generational talent.Diana Wu David has had a diverse professional background. She studied international relations in college and after graduation, answered a job ad that landed her a role working for Dr. Henry Kissinger, who served as Secretary of State and National Security Advisor to US Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. From there she went to business school and followed a traditional route of working as a management consultant and in several start-ups. Life took a sudden turn when a close friend committed suicide and she decided to make several meaningful changes in her professional and personal life. Her book, Future Proof: Reinventing Work in an Age of Acceleration, draws from her experiences and from that of others who have reinvented their careers to more meaningful and fulfilling paths.In this episode we discuss:How Diana’s journey took her from “doing the right thing” in the corporate world and then eventually into entrepreneurship.Her journey to working for Henry A. Kissinger that began with her responding to an anonymous ad in a newspaper.How Diana ended up living and then staying in Hong Kong.How losing a close friend started shifting her mindset about what life and work were really about, and how that shift eventually led to her leaving the corporate world.Diana’s expanded learning since owning her own company, especially with regard to self-awareness, balance, and living life with intention.How she uses approaches like journaling to evaluate what is important to her and guide her decisions.Links:Diana Wu David on LinkedIn and Twitterhttps://dianawudavid.com/Books mentioned in this episode:“Future Proof: Reinventing Work in the Age of Acceleration” by Diana Wu DavidOther Resources:Learn more about the Recognized Expert course with Dorie ClarkStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

Mark Dyck started his career in information technology working for a telecommunications corporation. After many years, he left that job and opened a bread bakery which he and his wife ran for 5 years. Today, he still bakes 150 loaves of bread on the weekends in the brick oven he built in his backyard. Additionally, he runs an online community for business owners and is working with ProsperCity, a company focused on closing gender wage gaps and salary discrimination. He is also the host of Rise Up!, a podcast for bakers and bakery owners.Mark Dyck has made several uncommon choices in his life. After a successful corporate career in IT, sales, marketing, and service development, Mark opened Orange Boot Bakery, a neighborhood artisan bread bakery in his hometown of Regina, Saskatchewan. He closed the bakery in 2016 and is now pursuing several projects, including nurturing an online community of business owners called The Right Company, closing the gender wage gap and ending salary discrimination at ProsperCity, baking for a private bread club of friends and neighbors and hosting Rise Up!, a podcast for bakers and bakery owners and everyone who makes The Good Stuff and brings it to The People.In this episode we discuss:How Mark was raised to believe he should get a government job, keep his head down, work for 30 years to get his pension, and then retire.Mark’s first leap of faith in business when he decided to go part-time at his “secure” job to spend more time at home with his wife and kids.How his passion for bread baking led to him building his own brick oven and then eventually starting a bakery.Mark’s discovery that he is a people-centric person and how he uses that knowledge to determine what projects he will try.His work with The Right Company and with ProsperCity.Mark’s belief in taking leaps, making transitions, and doing all of it for the connections with people.Links:Mark Dyck on LinkedIn and Twitterhttps://markdyck.coBooks mentioned in this episode:“Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable” by Seth GodinOther Resources:Learn more: about the MBA program with Seth GodinLearn more about The Right Company and Bernadette JiwaLearn more about ProsperCity and Rebecca ChannerStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

making her way to Carnegie Hall and being highly touted in the New York Times. Yet, as much as she loved it, she’s burning out on normalizing the financial struggles as a working artist. Today, she has taken her talents in additional directions and is happy with her choices.Marie Incontrera is a social media, publicity, and speaker consultant for authors, thought leaders, coaches, and consultants. She is also a professional composer, pianist, and bandleader, and has appeared at Carnegie Hall. Marie is a fitness enthusiast who loves martial arts and has recently taken up roller derby. In this episode we discuss:How her career transition was more like a career addition.Her joy in working in consulting because it allows her to express her creativity in a different way.How her consulting career enables her to enjoy the best of her music career.Her love for trying new things and some of the endeavors she has tried.How having a tribe has helped her immensely through her growth and development process.Links:Marie Incontrera on LinkedIn and Twitterwww.incontrera.comBooks mentioned in this episode:“Social Your Book Launch” by Marie Incontrera“Spread Your Idea: Bringing your TED-style idea from the blank page to the stage” by Marie IncontreraOther resources:Learn more about Dorie ClarkStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

Today, after 11 years as a hospice nurse, supporting hundreds of terminally ill patients and their families, Arza Goldstein established a private practice as an End of Life Doula, helping patients and their families make their remaining time together less stressful and more meaningful. Most of us don’t like to talk about dying, but stay for the conversation and see how thinking about death and dying makes us live our lives with greater intention.Arza Goldstein is an entrepreneur, journeywoman and advocate. Her career path has taken her from training and development to sales, investment banking, real estate, birth doula to hospice nurse and community organizer. She has a private practice as an End of Life Doula and is the co-founder of Living Wisely, Dying Well, an organization designed to encourage conversations about death and dying.In this episode we discuss:Arza’s career path that led her through sales, real estate, birth doula, hospice nursing, and now as an End of Life doula.How certain indescribable feelings served as cues to her that she was ready to move on from different jobs during her career.The fears that she confronted when she was not an income earning member of her family, and how those led her to pursue her nursing education.How Arza views death and how she uses her insights to help people live better while preparing for end of life.The various services she performs in her role as an end of life doula.Arza’s strength at helping people journey through the end of their lives.Links:Arza Goldstein on LinkedIn and Twitterhttps://arzagoldsteinendoflifedoula.com/Books mentioned in this episode:Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End by Atul GawandeStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

David Shriner-Cahn is a recognized authority on entrepreneurship, leadership development, and the host of the business podcast Smashing the Plateau. Featured in Forbes and Inc. Magazine, over 400 episodes of Smashing the Plateau offer a wealth of personal experiences and practical advice about achieving business breakthroughs. David’s mission is helping solopreneur experts do what they love.Entrepreneur David Shriner-Cahn talks about his early professional years as a chemical engineer. He then engaged in an interim career as a contractor, before moving into his second career as a non-profit executive. After 20 years in the non-profit sector, he transitioned into self-employment as a consultant to support the strategies of solopreneur experts, building more stable and consistent recurring revenue in their business.In this episode we discuss:How David smashes the plateau by stepping outside his comfort zone and trying paths he is may be unsure about.David’s career transitions and how that shaped his view of life not being linear.How he took time between his engineering job and starting to work in the nonprofit sector. He needed time to figure out what he was doing and where he was going.His current role as an entrepreneur and podcast host, and how he helps people think strategically about sales and marketing.How David values being part of a group of like-minded individuals to help bounce ideas off of through different career transitions and experiences.David’s passion for helping other people as they are growing their businesses.Links:David Shriner-Cahn on LinkedIn and Twitterwww.smashingtheplateau.comSchedule a free 30-minute call with DavidOther resources:Life Work Design https://bestworkinc.com/life-work-design/Stay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

Margo Aaron says “Try things that don’t work.” She has a lot of experience with this and can testify to it as a successful strategy for making career transitions. In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, Margo Aaron shares her journey from studying literature to psychology research and becoming an “accidental marketer”. Believe it or not, she connects the dots forward amongst all of these seemingly disparate pathways to demonstrate how they have been part of her philosophy of “living a deliberate life”.Margo Aaron is a recovering academic and accidental marketer. Today she’s the founder of The Arena, a virtual coworking community for solopreneurs, a cohost of the internet talk show #HAMYAW with Hillary Weiss, a regular contributor to Inc, and prolific writer with fans like Seth Godin, Derek Sivers, and Paul Jarvis.In this episode we discuss:Margo’s educational and career journey that taught her how our culture views making career shifts as being all over the place when really, “we are actually always just connecting the dots forward.”How her dad taught her the value of grit and an understanding that the traditional way didn’t work for her, but there are other ways to achieve what you want.Her skills for getting into jobs and educational systems she was not actually qualified for.How Margo had to “unlearn her worthiness” and her mindset surrounding fear and self-doubt which includes “going after the things that scare you until those fears become less personal and less likely to derail you.”Why she considers herself a recovering academic and how she has unlearned the scripts that shaped her view of the world.Margo’s concept of “product found fit” and what it means in her life.Links:Margo Aaron on LinkedIn and Twitterwww.thatseemsimportant.comMargo Aaron on MediumBooks mentioned in this episode:“Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance” by Angela Duckworth“Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear” by Elizabeth GilbertOther Resources:Learn more about Steve JobsTheodore Roosevelt Speech “The Man in the Arena.”Learn more about the altMBA program run by Seth GodinStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter

Dolores Hirschmann has tried it all. She has started a language system software company, has run her own clothing company, has directed an online learning platform and she is a tap dancer. She says, “I jump into adventures. I’ll dance til the music stops.” Dolores’ formula for making change is as follows: Identify something you would do for no pay, determine how that will make someone or something better and identify the jobs that solve those problemsShe is an internationally recognized strategist, Clarity Coach, TEDx Organizer, speaker, and author. She has over 20 years of experience helping entrepreneurs and organizations realize their potential by guiding them to CLARITY to define their CORE IDEA in order to reach their next level of growth. Originally from Buenos Aires, Dolores speaks fluent Spanish, English, and French, and lives in Dartmouth, MA with her husband and four children. In this episode we discuss:How Dolores wanted to be an actress and her dad said “Cool. Go to business school first and then we’ll talk.”How her mom’s encouragement to stay where she was until she had something else lined up shaped her sense of making smart transformations.Her belief that action leads the game of serendipity and people often find projects and chances they dreamed of by doing the mundane work that leads to it.How business school gave her the container through which to channel her creativity.Her summer internship at Christie’s New York and how that shaped, and eventually changed her thesis.How a pancreatic tumor shaped her life: “I jump into adventures more quickly than others. I figure I’ll keep dancing until the music stops.”The Clarity programs she offers her clients and how those programs help people at different income levels.Links:Dolores Hirschmann on LinkedIn and Twitterwww.mastersinclarity.comStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to  newsletter