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Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley.
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25 snips
May 11, 2026 • 1h 54min
615: But in Citrus!
They debate new Apple naming tiers and whether another laptop level is needed. They unpack chip strategy, including binned A18 Pro chips and talks with Intel or Samsung. They speculate about camera-equipped AirPods and whether visual intelligence buys enough value. They also discuss macRAM cuts, supply tactics, and why podcasts are moving toward video and clips.

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May 4, 2026 • 1h 46min
614: $100 Billion Is the Floor
They parse Apple’s record Q2 results and what a bigger cash war chest means for future products and acquisitions. They debate Johnny Srouji’s reported burnout and John Ternus’s rising public role. They riff on iPhone and Mac naming worries, camera upgrades, Visual Intelligence moving to the camera, and Apple’s F1 content and Porsche’s racing nods.

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Apr 27, 2026 • 1h 37min
613: I Know I Picked Too Many iPods
They unpack Apple’s leadership shift and whether John Ternus will steer the company toward continuity or change. They explore Johny Srouji’s new hardware role and how teams might be reorganized. They debate App Store policy, event formats, and the fate of product lines like MacBook Neo and iPhone 18 Pro. They also touch on AI integration across Apple software and ongoing industry legal dramas.

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Apr 20, 2026 • 2h 34min
612: 'That Leader is John Ternus'
Breaking leadership news at Apple and reactions to John Ternus and Johny Srouji stepping into bigger roles. A deep dive into timing, board dynamics, and why Apple promotes from within. A playful, vibe-based draft celebrating 50 years of Apple hardware, from the original iPhone to quirky classics and modern powerhouses.

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Apr 13, 2026 • 1h 48min
611: Drain the Bin
They debate whether Apple might run short on binned chips for the MacBook Neo and what contingency plans could look like. They unpack rumors about a folding iPhone’s design, name, and awkward outer display. They explore Apple’s smart glasses strategy, features like Siri improvements and vision-based queries, and practical UWB smart lock tech and home automations.

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Apr 6, 2026 • 1h 42min
610: We Hear You're Good at Computers
They debate Apple discontinuing the Mac Pro and trace how Macs shifted from towers to Apple Silicon. They dig into iOS 18 security updates, background patching, and the controversy around withheld fixes. Rumors about a Siri overhaul, a new Siri app, multi‑command support, and Spotlight integration get teased. They also share personal Apple origin stories and recommend books about Apple history.

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Mar 30, 2026 • 1h 41min
609: The Origin of Apple
A 50th‑anniversary retelling of how Apple sprang from 1970s Santa Clara Valley culture. Tales of garage tinkering, mentorship from local engineers, and the Altair’s influence. Wozniak’s clever hardware breakthroughs and Jobs’s knack for seeing business potential. The early partnership dynamics, naming the company, first sales, and the investor who helped turn a hobby into a business.

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Mar 23, 2026 • 2h 20min
608: Pop and Lock
David Pogue, veteran technology writer and broadcaster, discusses his new book on Apple's first 50 years. He dives into product origin stories, Apple’s culture of secrecy and design, the making of the iPhone and PowerBook, and where Apple might head next with AI and health. Short, lively conversations about archival access and Steve Jobs’ lasting influence.

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Mar 16, 2026 • 1h 40min
607: Lime Has Left the Chat
They gush over the new MacBook Neo, debating who it is for and confessing FOMO. They compare Studio Display refreshes and teardown findings. They unpack Apple’s 50th anniversary push and a China App Store fee cut. They talk surprise AirPods Max returns, foldable iPhone UI rumors, HomePod display delays tied to AI work, and a cheeky Jeopardy mention.

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Mar 10, 2026 • 1h 47min
606: Photogenic Lemon
They spend most of the show unpacking the new MacBook Neo: design lineage, colors, construction and surprising $599 pricing. They debate the A18 Pro chip tradeoffs, RAM limits and removed features used to hit that price. They also touch on Mac Studio RAM changes, Studio Display updates and a Wall Street Journal print review experience.


