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Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley.
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35 snips
Mar 23, 2026 • 2h 20min
608: Pop and Lock
David Pogue, veteran technology writer and broadcaster, discusses his new book on Apple's first 50 years. He dives into product origin stories, Apple’s culture of secrecy and design, the making of the iPhone and PowerBook, and where Apple might head next with AI and health. Short, lively conversations about archival access and Steve Jobs’ lasting influence.

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Mar 16, 2026 • 1h 40min
607: Lime Has Left the Chat
They gush over the new MacBook Neo, debating who it is for and confessing FOMO. They compare Studio Display refreshes and teardown findings. They unpack Apple’s 50th anniversary push and a China App Store fee cut. They talk surprise AirPods Max returns, foldable iPhone UI rumors, HomePod display delays tied to AI work, and a cheeky Jeopardy mention.

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Mar 10, 2026 • 1h 47min
606: Photogenic Lemon
They spend most of the show unpacking the new MacBook Neo: design lineage, colors, construction and surprising $599 pricing. They debate the A18 Pro chip tradeoffs, RAM limits and removed features used to hit that price. They also touch on Mac Studio RAM changes, Studio Display updates and a Wall Street Journal print review experience.

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Mar 2, 2026 • 1h 44min
605: The 2026 March Experience Draft
They predict Apple’s upcoming product moves and rework their March draft picks after new iPhone and iPad reveals. They dig into Apple’s US manufacturing shift and Mac mini production in Houston. They unpack Apple TV’s F1 plans, multiview and altcast experiments, and a surprising Netflix tie-in. They debate MacBook naming, colors, ports, RAM and how iWork and password tools stack up.

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Feb 23, 2026 • 1h 50min
604: The Shifting Sands of Liquid Glass
They dig into the Six Colors Apple report card for 2025 and debate where Apple gained or lost ground. Conversation covers Vision Pro’s immersive potential and whether F1 could be a killer app. They argue about Mac design bets, iPadOS windowing, AirPods and Apple Watch stagnation. HomeKit, Apple TV strategy, services strength, and the fallout from liquid glass on OS quality round out the topics.

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Feb 16, 2026 • 1h 43min
603: Recalibrate the Quality Bar
They dig into Apple’s delayed AI plans and debate whether to ship imperfect features or raise the quality bar. Discussion covers March 4 product expectations, iOS 26 adoption timing, and rumors about iPhone 18 Pro and colored MacBooks. They celebrate YouTube arriving on Vision Pro and unpack curling basics, controversies, and beginner tips.

47 snips
Feb 9, 2026 • 1h 39min
602: Get Our Necks Limber
They dig into Super Bowl highlights, from game takeaways to memorable halftime moments and standout ads. Tech chatter ranges from AirDrop on Android and Xcode’s new AI coding agents to rumors about iPhone 17e, OLED iPad mini, and a low-cost MacBook. Corporate culture and optics get attention with Tim Cook’s town hall and Apple’s scaled‑back AI health plans.

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Feb 2, 2026 • 1h 41min
601: Spreadsheet for Creators
They break down Apple’s record quarter and why iPhone 17 demand and supply constraints matter. They weigh risks from TSMC, AI chip demand, and rising memory costs. They dig into Apple’s surprise Q.ai acquisition and silent-speech tech. They test-drive Apple’s new Creator Studio bundle and call out a messy App Store rollout and awkward bundling decisions.

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Jan 26, 2026 • 1h 33min
600: Based on Hopes and Dreams
They revisit past predictions and make wild new ones for the next milestone. New AirTag hardware and practical tracking tips get a close look. Deep Apple AI changes are unpacked, from Siri’s chatbot makeover to where models will run. Rumors about wearable AI devices, home products, and leadership shifts spark debate.

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Jan 19, 2026 • 1h 36min
599: Free... Although
Apple's potential integration of Google's Gemini AI sparks a lively discussion. The hosts explore how this might reshape Siri’s capabilities and emotional responses. They also contemplate the implications of Apple's new Creator Studio and its freemium model for pro apps like Final Cut Pro. A debate on Apple's custom deals with app developers reveals tensions in the App Store. With amusing anecdotes about aviation, the conversation is a blend of technology insights and lighthearted banter.


