

Sabrina Halper Show
Sabrina Halper
The mind, the machine, and the meaning of it all.
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Sep 8, 2022 • 33min
The Robot Lawyer that Helped Consumers Save Over $100M, with DoNotPay Founder Joshua Browder
Today's guest is Joshua Browder, the co-founder and CEO of DoNotPay, the world's first robot lawyer. He has helped consumers win back over $100M in parking tickets, subscriptions, and more. His mission is to use technology to empower consumers to represent themselves and protect their rights. In this episode, Joshua speaks to host Sabrina Halper about his childhood during his father Bill Browder's fight against Russia's human rights violations, teaching himself how to code, moving across the world to attend Stanford, the inception story of DoNotPay, joining the Thiel Fellowship, living in the house that Facebook was built in, helping customers of Celsius, angel investing, the issues with the modern day legal practice, and his insights into the flaws of American bureaucracy. Please follow, subscribe, and let us know what you think!
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Reach out at Shalper@hofcapital.com with any feedback, requests for guests, or if you're building something to shape the future ❤️ .
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:00 - Early life & biggest lessons from his father Bill Browder
3:05 - What he expected to do with his life
3:50 - Experience at Stanford
4:55 - Thiel Fellowship
5:50 - Experience interfacing with Peter Thiel
6:25 - Biggest takeaway from Thiel Fellowship
7:22 - Inception story of DoNotPay
10:30 - Viral Growth
11:10 - Early days of building the company / Living in the house Facebook was built in
12:25 - Helping consumers sue Celsius
14:15 - Will celsius consumers get their money back
14:37 - The protectionism and inaccessibility of modern day legal practice in the US
16:25 - Using software to empower consumers to represent themselves
16:50 - Future of robot lawyers and which issues will never be autonomous
17:50 - The issues with American bureaucracy today & effects of covid on legal system
19:05 - DoNotPay's new products to combat institutional racism
21:30 - How to adapt and think about changing market conditions and tech cycles 23:40 - Ultimate vision for DoNotPay
24:55 - Do you feel empathy for the business owners?
26:09 - His unique approach to angel investing
28:16 - Current conflict in Ukraine and views on where it will go + Putin
29:35 - What makes him optimistic about the future - Vertical farming & nuclear fission
30:32 - What modern behaviors or practices will be outdated and optimized out of?
31:25 - Views on crypto
32:25 - Outro

Aug 9, 2022 • 33min
Saving Millions of Lives Using Blood to Catch Cancer Early, with BillionToOne founder Oguzhan Atay
Oguzhan Atay is the founder & CEO of BillionToOne, a molecular diagnostics company that is redefining cancer care and pre-natal genetic testing. Oguzhan developed a liquid biopsy tool to test DNA through blood, rather than tissue samples. His approach is way less invasive and way more accurate. The company has raised over $210M. In this episode, Oguzhan speaks to Host Sabrina Halper and Co-host & partner at HOF Victor Wang about the ways this technology will save millions of lives and billions in healthcare spending. He also goes deep into the issues with America's healthcare and insurance system, and opens up about his own philosophy around relentless learning and curiosity.
Q&A with Oghuzan:
One book you’d recommend? I read many, many books (both fiction & non-fiction), so this is a difficult question for me. Zero to One, Disciplined Entrepreneurship, Hot Seat, and Martian are appropriate for seed-stage & problem solving; Hard Thing about Hard Things is appropriate for downturns, recessions, and dealing with difficult situations; Amp It Up is good for setting the right culture of high performance; The Great CEO Within is a great guide for concise, actionable, tactical improvements. If I have to select one book, and also choose it based on our company's current stage and how we want to build a generational, category-defining company, it would be "Great by Choice" by Jim Collins and Morten Hansen.
A question you always ask during an interview? What is the one thing in your past that you are most proud of achieving, either because it is truly impactful or rarely achieved outcome, or because you had to overcome significant challenges in attaining it? The reason I like this question is that it identifies superstars & overachievers in a way that does not discriminate against people who have not had the same opportunities as everyone.
Email me at Shalper@hofcapital.com with any feedback, requests for guests, or if you're building something to shape the future.
This episode covers:
- What BillionToOne is developing with their liquid biopsy technology
- How Gene therapies are innovating to reverse genetic disorders 06:08
- How Gene therapies are re-defining cancer diagnostic and mitigation 09:00
- CRISPR
- How to measure the success of BillionToOne's molecular diagnostic tool
- Health and economic impact of superior diagnostics
- Issues with insurance companies and reimbursement in the healthcare system + the opportunity for disruption
- Missteps of early days of COVID
- Transition from being an academic to a founder
- Keys to Oghuzan's personal & professional success
- How innovation is accelerating

Jul 8, 2022 • 35min
Tom Brady’s Co-Founder on Building an Enduring NFT Platform, His Outlook on Crypto Winter, & Earning the Support Icons and Leaders in Crypto & Sports (Katie Haun, Tiger Woods, SVP of Apple, etc.)
Autograph’s Co-founder Tom Brady is widely known. The other co-founder, and CEO, is Dillon Rosenblatt, a 24 year old, second time founder. Dillon first began his entrepreneurial journey when he started Tutors, a company to connect tutors and students, at age 15. After attending USC’s Iovine and Young Academy for entrepreneurship, he explored the idea of starting a crypto hedge fund which began a deep dive exploration into the space that eventually led him to build Autograph.
In this episode, host Sabrina Halper and Dillon Rosenblatt discuss
Inception of Autograph:
-What first drew Dillon into the NFT space
-How he got Tom Brady and DraftKings on board
-Who he sees as the consumer & user of Autograph
Differentiated Approach:
-Dillon’s plans to expand
-Why he wouldn’t bring Autograph into the NFT-tooling space
-Dillon’s approach to building out collections that would keep users engaged with the product and brand
-How he thinks about virality and shareability within the collections
Putting the Autograph board together:
-Dillon’s reflections on building a board of moguls and earning the support of industry leaders (crypto: Sam Bankman-Fried, Katie Haun, etc.) (Sports: Tiger Woods, Tony Hawk, Simone Biles etc.) (Entertainment; The Weeknd, Head of Lionsgate, COO of Spotify)
-When to ask for advice vs when to trust your gut
Future of NFTs:
-Web2 vs Web3
-Autograph’s plan to enter the metaverse and offer crypto-native products
-His views on what role “passion” NFTs will play in the future ecosystem
-Dillon responds to: “Are NFT’s a bubble?” and “Will people spend money on NFTs during a recession?”
-Dillon’s opinion on Ethereum as a long term base for NFTs
Personal reflections:
-His reflections on how to learn quickly and act as a young CEO
-Why he’s optimistic about the future
If you have an idea to pitch HOF on or feedback on the pod, tweet at us at @HOFCapital and @SabrinaHalper!

Jun 3, 2022 • 48min
Henrique Dubugras, Co-founder & CEO of Fintech Unicorn Brex
In this debut episode, host Sabrina Halper sits down with Henrique Dubugras, the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Brex, a credit card and financial toolkit for startups, valued at $12.3B. As a 16 year old living in the middle of Brazil, Henrique founded Pagar.me, which did over $1.5B in sales. He then went on to attend Stanford University for 6 months, until dropping out to join Y Combinator and start Brex with his co-founder Pedro Franceschi. At 26 years old, he’s a second time founder who runs one of the most prominent fintech companies in Silicon Valley. In this conversation, he discusses his personal motivations, his views on crypto, and why he’s extremely optimistic about the future.


