Another Podcast
Benedict Evans, Toni Cowan-Brown
If you're looking for another over-scripted and edited podcast, this is not it. But if you want to listen to honest and unfiltered discussions about the latest in tech and its impact on society, welcome, you have come to the right place.
This is Another Podcast where two friends and colleagues discuss their overlapping experiences and perspectives on what happens in technology. We might know some of the same things, yet we also have different backgrounds and expertise, or at least, we ask different questions.
Benedict Evans has worked in equity research, strategy and venture capital and owns lots of old phones; Toni Cowan-Brown works at the intersection of tech, policy and politics.
This is Another Podcast where two friends and colleagues discuss their overlapping experiences and perspectives on what happens in technology. We might know some of the same things, yet we also have different backgrounds and expertise, or at least, we ask different questions.
Benedict Evans has worked in equity research, strategy and venture capital and owns lots of old phones; Toni Cowan-Brown works at the intersection of tech, policy and politics.
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Feb 28, 2026 • 26min
The end of the network effect
They debate whether generative AI actually has network effects and why that matters for who wins. Conversation covers scale, capex and whether models become mere infrastructure or full platforms. They examine vertical integration, branding and distribution as potential advantages. The talk highlights the unstable landscape created by undifferentiated models and competing routes to product leverage.
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Feb 23, 2026 • 32min
AI and SaaS
A deep dive into how AI is reshaping software and SaaS economics. They trace the hype cycle from euphoria to skepticism and explain why this wave feels different. Conversation covers which tools get automated, why bespoke replacements for core systems are unlikely, and how product design and new roles matter as AI changes who builds and buys software.
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Dec 20, 2025 • 21min
How does OpenAI compete?
The hosts dive into the fierce competition surrounding OpenAI and the commoditization of AI models. They examine the infrastructure challenges and the difficulty of maintaining cost/performance advantages. Discussion flows into strategies for product differentiation and the role of AI as a feature. The disconnect between advanced builders and everyday users is highlighted, along with the real-world utility of LLMs. They ponder strategic choices for the future and draw parallels between AI's current landscape and the early days of the web.
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Nov 16, 2025 • 38min
The AI presentation
Benedict shares insights from his annual tech trends presentation, focusing on AI's place in modern business. He delves into why companies face strategic questions and how AI resembles past platform shifts like mobile technology. Discussion includes bubble dynamics, the paradox of early certainty, and the importance of meaningful AI integration over superficial metrics. Benedict highlights AI's potential as a creative amplifier and the uncertainty around new app platforms, emphasizing that transformative changes often become normalized over time.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 46min
A double episode: AI differentiation, and Apple does F1
Explore the intriguing world of AI differentiation as billion-dollar chatbots vie for attention, grappling with branding and user experience challenges. Dive into the rising allure of Formula 1 in the U.S., propelled by hit series and lucrative broadcasting deals, while Apple makes bold moves to capture the sports entertainment market. Unpack the cultural significance of sports sponsorship in appealing to younger audiences, and discover how tech giants are reshaping engagement strategies in this high-speed arena.
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Apr 5, 2025 • 28min
Looking for AI strategies
The conversation dives into the complexities of AI, discussing how rapid advancements shape product strategies. There's a playful comparison between tech giants’ approaches and the racing world, particularly Formula One, where AWS plays a crucial role. The speakers address the challenge of differentiating AI models and the wider implications of market dynamics, branding, and regulation. Humor also finds its way into the discussion as they reflect on Monaco's racing dilemmas, teasing future insights into content creation in the motorsport realm.
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Dec 8, 2024 • 42min
Ai eats the world
Dive into the evolving world of technology as the speakers reflect on the complexities of artificial intelligence and its historical parallels. Discover how AI is reshaping everything from visa processes to professional roles, likened to having countless interns at your fingertips. The conversation also explores the shift from traditional software to AI, reshaping user experiences in industries like Airbnb and Uber. Finally, ponder the future of AI integration and whether it will stand alone or blend seamlessly into existing tech landscapes.
Oct 11, 2024 • 46min
From SAAS software to Formula 1
Two hosts share their fascinating journeys from consultancy to Formula 1, diving into the unique blend of technology and sports. They discuss the surge of F1's popularity in America, partly thanks to the Netflix series and the pandemic. The conversation reveals the challenges of marketing in an evolving industry, contrasting traditional fan experiences with modern digital engagement. They also explore the transformation of Formula One into a global industry, emphasizing sponsorship strategies and the creator economy's influence on sports.
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Aug 19, 2024 • 38min
Google's Antitrust case
A recent court ruling has deemed Google an illegal monopoly in the search market, raising questions about its future. The intricacies of consumer choice and how default settings impact user behavior are discussed. Could Apple enter the search engine race? The podcast also delves into how artificial intelligence is reshaping search functionalities and competition among tech giants. With regulatory scrutiny on the rise, the dynamics of innovation, collaboration, and user experience in the digital age are all under the spotlight.
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Jul 1, 2024 • 38min
The AI summer
The podcast delves into the evolution of AI technology, discussing its impact on various industries, advancements in image recognition, challenges in AI adoption, and the dynamic landscape of technological progress. It also explores the influence of AI on software capabilities, strategic technology adoption, and the unpredictability of future innovation.
