

Ancient Geeks
Ancient Geeks
Two old geeks talk about being young geeks, at a turning point in popular culture. In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, the threads of modern geek culture emerged and wove together. Science fiction, fantasy, comics, movies, TV shows, tabletop games, computer games, ad all their incarnations. The great SF&F writers, Star Trek, Star Wars, monster movies, D&D, Doctor Who, the Marvel and DC superheroes, 2001, Planet of the Apes, conventions, Zork, Ultima...What was it like to experience these for the first time? Why did we love them? And how do we feel about them, decades later?
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Sep 1, 2025 • 1h 43min
Ancient Geeks episode 30: Fan service
We've mentioned fan service in past episodes. Now, we take it head on.
Tom and Steven have a lot to say about fan service, because it's a big part of geek culture today. But was it also a major part of our earlier geek lives? How much more of geek culture, especially on the screen, is dominated by it today? Is it always a bad thing, the death of creativity and quality? Or, in the right hands, can it be used for good.
Sequels! Remakes! In-jokes! Deep cuts! Updates! Transmedia! Spirited debate between Steven and Tom! It's all here.
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. Also, check out our new Ancient Geeks blog on Substack! And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, we always appreciate a review on the podcast platform of your choice.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

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Aug 25, 2025 • 1h 11min
Ancient Geeks episode 29: Blake's 7
Take a journey through the intriguing world of a cult classic sci-fi series, exploring its political intrigue and character arcs. Delve into themes of rebellion and moral ambiguity set against a corrupt regime. Discover the pioneering AI character ORAC and its narrative significance. Unearth the dynamics of the spaceship Liberator and the complexities of villain Travis. Celebrate British sci-fi's unique contributions and reflect on the show's lasting impact on storytelling. Join in the nostalgic exploration of geek culture that shaped a generation.

Aug 18, 2025 • 1h 10min
Ancient Geeks episode 28: Flash Gordon
Flash! Aaah-aah!
Steven and Tom journey back to 1980, when the big budget Flash Gordon movie premiered. Was it a camp classic? A post-Star Wars cash grab? A sincere homage to the comic strip? A weird amalgam of British, Italian, and American science fiction motifs? Something else? All of the above? Listen and find out.
Thrill to retro rocketships blazing across the screen! Cringe at the acting! Marvel at the incredibly colorful costuming and production design! Cover your ears when Brian Blessed delivers his lines! It's all here.
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. Also, check out our new blog on Substack! And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, we always appreciate a review on the podcast platform of your choice.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

Aug 11, 2025 • 1h 37min
Ancient Geeks episode 27: Godzilla
Look! Towering over the city! It's another episode of Ancient Geeks!
We discuss the first Godzilla movie, which is a powerful, compelling piece of film-making. No, really! If you haven't seen it, we'll tell you why the original Japanese movie is compelling, thought-provoking, and scary. We get into the interesting behind-the-scenes story of the earliest Godzilla movies, and how this series evolved during the course of its immediate sequels during what fans call "the Showa era." We also talk about the most recent film, Godzilla Minus One, which is even more profound, terrifying, and even moving. If you've never thought you'd enjoy a Godzilla movie, or you've just seen them through the lens of Mystery Science Theater 3000, give us the opportunity to convince you to watch the top-notch films in this series!
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, we always appreciate a review on the podcast platform of your choice.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

Aug 4, 2025 • 1h 28min
Ancient Geeks episode 26: The Fantastic Four movie
We've seen the new Fantastic Four movie, and this episode contains all of our thoughts on the film, and then some! We discuss how good a movie it is, how good a Fantastic Four movie it is, and how good a comic book movie it is. Will it appeal to both comic book nerds and people who aren't comics fans? Will this movie help the MCU get back on its feet?
We also have one of the liveliest debates between Tom and Steven in the history of the podcast – so far! Can long-standing franchises avoid getting tied up in ever-multiplying continuity knots? Where should the MCU go next? Listen to find out.
Planet-devouring space gods! Family dynamics! Superhero fatigue! Tomorrowland aesthetics! It's all here, and more.
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, we always appreciate a review on the podcast platform of your choice.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

Jul 28, 2025 • 1h 25min
Ancient Geeks episode 25: John Byrne's Fantastic Four
What better way to celebrate the release of the Fantastic Four movie than to journey back to the 1980s, when John Byrne took over both the writer and artist roles for the Fantastic Four comic book. This was one of the best runs of any writer or artist over the 64 year history of the comic book, and Steven and Tom are eager to tell you why.
The FF family facing crisis after crisis! Science fiction galore! Doombots exploding! Galactus getting beaten up by everyone! Reed Richards as a mediocre adjunct professor! It's all here, and more.
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, we always appreciate a review on the podcast platform of your choice.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

Jul 21, 2025 • 1h 19min
Ancient Geeks episode 24: Andor, an allegory for authoritarianism and rebellion
In this concluding episode of our Death Star-sized coverage of Andor, we look at this series through the lenses of political science and history (topics about which we know a few things). What are the important lessons from a galaxy far, far away about authoritarianism and rebellion here? How do the characters in this series epitomize the roles people play in real-world times of upheaval? How well does Andor depict the hard choices that people have to make? What ultimately makes this show as good as we think it is?
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, reviews on your podcast platform of choice are always appreciated.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

Jul 14, 2025 • 1h 9min
Ancient Geeks episode 23: Andor season two
More Andor! Our discussion of the show continues with our analysis of season two. The Empire tightens its grip. The Rebel Alliance gains strength. Characters reach the final destinations of their story arcs. And in the process, we get the best Star Wars in a long, long time. It's John le Carré-level fiction, but with blasters and droids.
Hear our analysis of season two, and the series overall. Next episode, we'll get the political science take on this ground-breaking series. What makes this show one of the best allegories about authoritarianism and rebellion ever on screen?
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, reviews on your podcast platform of choice are always appreciated.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

Jul 13, 2025 • 1h 11min
Ancient Geeks bonus episode 1: James Gunn's Superman
Steven and Tom rushed to the movie theater, saw the new Superman movie, and now present their reviews! There's a spoiler-free section in the first part, followed by spoilers galore in the second, so listen carefully for the transition.
Thrill as we give our opinions of how well this movie captures the essential Superman! Gasp as we disagree over how much we liked the movie! Hear how we compare James Gunn's Superman to the 1979 Christopher Reeve classic, as well as other movie and TV portrayals!
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, we always appreciate a review on the podcast platform of your choice.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor

Jul 7, 2025 • 1h 13min
Ancient Geeks episode 22: Andor season one
What's it like to watch Andor, from the perspective of two lifelong geeks who were there for the premiere of the original Star Wars film? And who also have a deep interest in politics and history? That's the topic of the next three episodes of Ancient Geeks. In this episode, we talk about the first season of Andor.
How much did we like this show? (Answer: A lot.) How does it change our perception of Star Wars, including the first movie? How well does it stand on its own, without all the connections to the Star Wars universe? And how well does it work as a political allegory? All this, and more, in this episode!
Ancient Geeks is a podcast about two geeks of a certain age re-visiting their youth. We were there when things like science fiction, fantasy, Tolkien, Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D, Marvel and DC comics, Doctor Who, and many, many other threads of modern geek culture were still on the fringes of culture. We were geeks before it was chic!
For feedback, contact someancientgeeks@gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Reddit, and Bluesky. And if you like what you hear, please tell a friend. Also, reviews on your podcast platform of choice are always appreciated.
© 2025 Tom Grant and Steven Taylor


