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Apoorva Mandavilli, a science and global health reporter for the New York Times, dives deep into the lessons we've glossed over since the pandemic. She discusses the alarming public apathy towards rising COVID-19 cases and the emerging threats of bird flu and mpox. Misconceptions about COVID's endemic status and skepticism about vaccines also take center stage. Mandavilli emphasizes the importance of learning from past crises to better prepare for inevitable future pandemics. It's a stirring reminder of the need for vigilance and proactive public health measures.

David Faris, a politics professor at Roosevelt University and contributor for Slate, shares insights on the recent presidential debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. He discusses how the intense exchanges on abortion and healthcare reflected their campaign strategies. Harris's powerful critiques and her positioning resonate with voters, while Trump misses crucial opportunities. The conversation also explores the role of social media in shaping public perception and the potential implications for the upcoming election.

After 12 years of “pretrial proceedings,” and 23 years after the crime in question, prosecutors announced that a plea deal had been reached with Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and two of his accomplices, who were accused of planning the Sept. 11 attacks. When Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin canceled the deal, some relatives of those who died on 9/11 were devastated.Guest: Terry Kay Rockefeller, founding member of September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows.Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.Public.com+Public Investing Disclosure: Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. See public.com/#disclosures-main for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After the school shooting in Georgia last week, charges were brought against the 14-year-old alleged gunman—and also against his father. Who’s really responsible?Guest: Josie Duffy Rice, journalist focused on prosecutors, prisons, and other criminal justice issues and host of What A Day.Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

An outbreak of eastern equine encephalitis in the northeast made headlines, but as far as mosquito-borne illnesses go, EEE is serious but still rare. What’s getting way too common is the mosquito itself.Guest: Amesh Adalja, doctor and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health SecurityWant more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Patrick Fort, and Cheyna Roth.Public.com+Public Investing Disclosure: Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. See public.com/#disclosures-main for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Elizabeth Spiers, a writer and advocate, shares her battle with the invasive Japanese knotweed that's wreaking havoc on her home. The conversation also dives into whether Gen Z even uses checks anymore, highlighting a TikTok trend exploiting banking glitches. There's a lively debate on leadership styles in tech, particularly regarding how female CEOs are perceived compared to their male counterparts. With humor and insight, the group tackles generational differences in financial literacy and the quirky challenges of property ownership.

Lara Trump, RNC co-chair and daughter-in-law of former President Donald Trump, joins to discuss the Republican Party's shift from 'Stop the Steal' to 'Protect the Vote.' The conversation highlights evolving strategies for election integrity as the 2024 election approaches. Key topics include legal measures affecting voter access and the impact of recent Supreme Court rulings. The podcast also examines alarming tactics used to suppress votes, particularly in battleground states, and underscores the urgency for structural reforms to restore public trust in the electoral process.

Leah Nylen, an antitrust reporter for Bloomberg, dives into the current legal challenges facing Google after a recent federal ruling labeled it a monopoly. She discusses the implications of the Justice Department’s allegations regarding Google’s ad business. The conversation highlights the complexities of Google's ad ecosystem, including its financial dominance and the confusion it causes for advertisers. Nylen also examines the potential repercussions for the tech industry if Google were to lose the upcoming trial, emphasizing the critical stakes involved.

Ruth Margalit, a New Yorker writer specializing in political issues, joins the discussion on the dynamics of the presidential race, examining Kamala Harris's polling struggles and the implications of foreign interference in U.S. politics. Joshua Leifer, an author, shares insights from his book, emphasizing the complicated nature of voter perceptions and the emotional responses to global crises. Engaging tales about protests and the intricate web of international influence showcase the intersection of domestic politics with the global landscape.

Will the deaths of six hostages mark a turning point in how Israelis view the war in Gaza—and how Netanyahu’s government is conducting it?Guest: Yair Rosenberg, staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of its newsletter Deep ShtetlWant more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.