

Health:Further
Marcus Whitney & Vic Gatto
Every week, healthcare VCs and Jumpstart Health Investors co-founders Vic Gatto and Marcus Whitney review and unpack the happenings in US Healthcare, finance, technology and policy. With a firm belief that our healthcare system is doomed without entrepreneurship, they work through the mud to find the jewels, highlight headwinds and tailwinds, and bring on the smartest guests to fill in the gaps.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 11, 2023 • 1h 7min
15 - AI Chatbots as Friends | US CPI at 3.2%, but Deflation in China | Hospital Prices set by CMS for 2024 | Wegovy for Heart Disease
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the CPI rose 3.2% in July from year-ago levels, a slight increase from June’s 3.0%, but well below last summer’s peak of 9.1%. Americans’ collective credit-card bill rose to $1.03 trillion from $986 billion in the first quarter, according to the household debt report released Tuesday by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. While AI’s abilities continue to improve, chatbots are turning into companions? What that means for the future of human interaction.------🔎RESOURCES🔎CONSUMER PRICE INDEX (CPI) JULY BLS REPORT // https://www.bls.gov/cpi/CHINA DEFLATION THREAT GROWS - BLOOMBERG // https://bit.ly/45pQ0oYMAERSK REPORTS Q2 FINANCIAL RESULTS IN DIFFICULT MARKET CONDITIONS // https://bit.ly/3s4IK3jBANK STOCKS SLIDE AFTER MOODY’S DOWNGRADE (WSJ) // https://bit.ly/45mvVjeBREAKING DOWN THE WORST EARNINGS QUARTER IN YEARS - WSJ // https://bit.ly/45phDON CREDIT-CARD DEBT HITS $1 TRILLION (MARKETWATCH) // https://bit.ly/45acyu3 MEDICARE’S FY24 FINAL RULE FOR INPATIENT PAYMENTS - HFMA // https://bit.ly/3DTXHIoTHE OTHER A.I.: ARTIFICIAL INTIMACY WITH YOUR CHATBOT FRIEND (WSJ) // https://bit.ly/4555RtgONLY 6% OF HEALTH SYSTEMS HAVE GENERATIVE AI STRATEGY (MODERN HEALTHCARE) // https://bit.ly/3QBnWdRWEGOVY SHOWS POSITIVE RESULTS IN REDUCING RISK OF CARDIOVASCULAR (MARKETWATCH) // https://bit.ly/3DSbdfnKFF HEALTH TRACKING POLL JULY 2023 // https://bit.ly/3DQpWYr------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.comHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Aug 4, 2023 • 1h 1min
14 - New Tactic Succeeds in CA Health System Merger | Fitch | CVS | Ozempic
CA Nonprofit Hospitals are turning to bankruptcy for leverage against the State. Markets are pointing down after Fitch Ratings downgraded the United States’ AAA long-term credit rating. While CVS Health is cutting approx. 5,000 jobs to save on costs amid its ongoing push into healthcare delivery. ------🔎RESOURCES🔎CALIFORNIA NONPROFIT HOSPITALS TURN TO BANKRUPTCY FOR LEVERAGE AGAINST STATE // https://on.wsj.com/3YluZcA FITCH’S WARNING ABOUT AMERICA’S FISCAL FUTURE // https://bit.ly/3OGoBcPCVS HEALTH CUTS 5,000 CORPORATE JOBS AMID PUSH TO 'REPRIORITIZE' HEALTHCARE // https://bit.ly/47lCJQ4CVS REPORTS STRONGER DEMAND AMID COST-CUTTING PUSH // https://bit.ly/3qfScAtOZEMPIC SHOWS PROMISE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT FOR ADDICTION // https://bit.ly/43QqhooEMPLOYERS CUT OFF ACCESS TO WEIGHT-LOSS DRUGS FOR WORKERS // https://bit.ly/3QurmPE ------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jul 28, 2023 • 1h 9min
13 - The Fed Did What?! | Rates | Economy | Yellow | PacWest | HCA | The Politics of Hospital Mergers
The Federal Reserve issues FOMC statement suggesting that economic activity has been expanding at a moderate pace. Analysts warn that bankruptcies and defaults could jump as the world adjusts to higher interest rates. Regional lenders are cutting back on some lending to preserve capital. While Sanford Health and Fairview Health Services have dropped their plans to merge, marking the second failed combination attempt between the nonprofit health systems over the last decade. A lot to unpack on this episode of Health:Further! Check out the links below for details on this discussion.------🔎RESOURCES🔎FEDERAL RESERVE ISSUES FOMC STATEMENT // https://bit.ly/3DzqOArUS FED: DISTRESSED FIRMS AND THE LARGE EFFECTS OF MONETARY POLICY TIGHTENINGS // https://bit.ly/456OhocNYT: CREDIT MARKETS ARE CREAKING, CREATING ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY // https://bit.ly/456Oo36WSJ: YELLOW FIRST ARTICLE // https://bit.ly/3OwHW00WSJ: YELLOW SECOND ARTICLE // https://bit.ly/3OBcXQxUS BEA: GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, SECOND QUARTER 2023 // https://bit.ly/43NqxEPPACWEST & BANC OF CALIFORNIA - MERGER OF EQUALS // https://bit.ly/476SDxwWSJ: BANKS ARE GOING ON A DIET // https://bit.ly/479AGOHWSJ: A WINNING BET FOR PENSION FUNDS GOES COLD // https://bit.ly/451xiDSMARKETWATCH: HCA BEATS EARNINGS AND BOOSTS OUTLOOK, BUT STOCK FALLS // https://bit.ly/3DyhrkrNYT - OPINION: HOSPITAL MARKET CONSOLIDATION IS BAD FOR PATIENTS // https://bit.ly/3ObXgOeMODERN HEALTHCARE: SANFORD HEALTH, FAIRVIEW HEALTH SERVICES CALL OFF PROPOSED MERGER // https://bit.ly/3Ow94fs------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // HF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jul 21, 2023 • 1h 26min
12 - Healthcare Capital Markets Deep Dive with Grant Chamberlain of Ziegler
Vic interviews his friend Grant Chamberlain, Senior Managing Director, Healthcare Investment Banking at Ziegler. Grant has over 30 years of investment banking experience and has dedicated the majority of his career to advising HCIT and tech-enabled outsourced services companies with particular focus on transactions with telehealth companies.------🔎RESOURCES🔎ZIEGLER TELEHEALTH INDUSTRY RESEARCH: PART IV // https://www.ziegler.com/telehealth-part-iv/GRANT CHAMBERLAIN - LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/in/grant-chamberlain-14430099/------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jul 14, 2023 • 60min
11 - Inflation | Jobs & the Fed | Top-heavy Nasdaq & S&P500 | Pharma solution for many chronic diseases | Rite-Aid debt concerns
The Fed’s regulatory chief recently weighed in on a path to improvement following a string of midsize bank failures. Eli Lilly’s Retatrutide medication was recently under the WSJ spotlight for its surprising results. Rite Aid’s stock just hit a record low. We’re discussing these topics and more in Episode 11.------🔎RESOURCES🔎CPI REPORT // https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf ADP JOBS REPORT // https://adpemploymentreport.com/JOLTS REPORT // https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.nr0.htmREDBOOK RETAIL REPORT // https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/redbook-indexBANKS ARE GOING TO NEED MORE CAPITAL (WSJ) // https://on.wsj.com/3pNXG5eLILLY'S RETATRUTIDE SHOWS BENEFITS ON FATTY LIVER DISEASE (WSJ) // https://bit.ly/3XRDyLXRITE-AID DEBT CONCERNS (MARKETWATCH) // https://bit.ly/3rAYlasMARCUS WHITNEY: BANKING STRUGGLES ARE LIMITING HEALTHCARE INNOVATION (HFMA) // https://bit.ly/44J4gZo------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jul 7, 2023 • 49min
10 - Where Is America’s “Health System” Headed? With Dave Johnson of 4Sight Health
Marcus interviews his fellow national HFMA board member, Dave Johnson, founder and CEO of 4Sight Health. Dave is a prolific writer on healthcare's pro-market transformation. He is the author-in-residence at MATTER, the Chicago-based healthcare incubator, and published the critically acclaimed book Market vs. Medicine: America's Epic Fight for Better, Affordable Healthcare in 2016. McGraw-Hill published Dave's book The Customer Revolution in Healthcare: Delivering Smarter, Kinder, Affordable Care for All in September 2019.------🔎RESOURCES🔎4SIGHT HEALTH // https://www.4sighthealth.com/DAVE ON HFMA // https://www.hfma.org/author/david-johnson/------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jun 30, 2023 • 1h 18min
9 - SCOTUS strikes down Affirmative Action | MDMA PTSD treatment Creative Financing | A Ray of light in VC fund formation | Ozempic Concerns
SCOTUS has rejected use of race in higher education, which brings up a reflection on what we learned during the pandemic and the result of compounding generational discrimination. A new MDMA PTSD treatment is on the rise, while the health value of Ozempic use is being questioned. We’re covering these topics and more in Episode 9.------🔎RESOURCES🔎SCOTUS DECISION // https://bloom.bg/3r1UfrIMAPS RAISING $85M FOR MDMA TREATMENT // https://on.wsj.com/3PBDOg4MAPS B CORP SITE // https://mapsbcorp.com/OZEMPIC: THIN BUT NOT NECESSARILY HEALTHY // https://on.wsj.com/3pv1xUA------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jun 23, 2023 • 1h 19min
8- Deep-dive on FDA Comm'r Califf & HHS Secy. Becerra | Aledade raises $260M | Amazon HIPAA data collection | Lessons for AI in Healthcare
Vic Gatto and Marcus Whitney cover an array of trending topics including the Aledade capital raise, the letter from Senators Warren and Welch to Amazon regarding Amazon Clinic, the ASGE AI Task Force, and more.------🔎RESOURCES🔎ALEDADE CAPITAL RAISE // https://www.finsmes.com/2023/06/aledade-raises-260m-in-series-f-financing.html AMAZON CLINIC HOMEPAGE // https://amzn.to/3XufYENAMAZON DATA & PRIVACY WASHINGTON POST // https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/05/01/amazon-clinic-hipaa-privacy/ LETTER FROM SENATORS WARREN AND WELCH TO AMAZON // https://politi.co/3r3auF2 ASPEN IDEAS: HEALTH SCHEDULE // https://www.aspenideas.org/schedule AI OVERRIDES NURSE JUDGMENT WSJ // https://on.wsj.com/431npob AMERICAN SOCIETY OF GASTROINTESTINAL ENDOSCOPY FORMS AI TASK FORCE TO USE AI BUT “KEEP THE GUARDRAILS ON” // https://bit.ly/3NPC9SM ASGE AI TASK FORCE // https://bit.ly/3NtneMT------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jun 16, 2023 • 1h 9min
7 - Digital Therapeutics post-Pear Bankruptcy | “Hawkish Pause” by the US Fed | UHG Signals Increasing Patient Volumes
Vic Gatto and Marcus Whitney are joined by special guest Aaron Gani from BehaVR, Inc. for a discussion on the Digital Therapeutics space. We're also covering the "hawkish" Fed pause, a sign of increasing patient volumes from UHG, and more.------🔎RESOURCES🔎BEHAVR // https://www.behavr.com/DIGITAL THERAPEUTICS ALLIANCE // https://dtxalliance.org/ALLISON BARR ALLEN - TWITTER // https://twitter.com/abarrallenCPI SUMMARY FROM US BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS // https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htmFRED - BANK TERM FUNDING PROGRAM // https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/H41RESPPALDKNWWWESTFIELD SAN FRANCISCO CENTRE - OWNER WALKS AWAY // https://on.wsj.com/3r0a2YaUHG PRESS RE INCREASING COSTS // https://bit.ly/3Jxz8nK------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK

Jun 9, 2023 • 1h 5min
6 - What Sequoia’s Breakup Tells Us About VC Markets | Behavioral Health Chatbot Goes Rogue | Other News Updates
Vic Gatto and Marcus Whitney discuss the Sequoia Capital split, the NEDA Chatbot mishap, Optum's bid for Amedisys, and more.------🔎RESOURCES🔎SEQUOIA BREAKUP WSJ // https://on.wsj.com/3qSRHvZHOW A CHATBOT WENT ROGUE WSJ // https://bit.ly/3NoVSr7FERTILITY STARTUP BUNNII SHUTTERS // https://bit.ly/43ZCoAuOPTUM BIDDING FOR AMEDISYS (FIERCE) // https://bit.ly/3Jx5Gyf------🔔SIGN UP FOR EPISODE NOTIFICATIONS🔔 https://www.podpage.com/healthfurther/------📱FOLLOW HEALTH:FURTHER SOCIALS📱INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/healthfurther/TWITTER // https://twitter.com/HealthFurtherFACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/HealthFurther/LINKEDIN // https://www.linkedin.com/company/health-furtherTIKTOK // https://www.tiktok.com/@healthfurtherYOUTUBE // https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFM4torjTIEkOLOD-p7FIKwHF SiteYOUTUBEINSTAGRAMTWITTERFACEBOOKLINKEDINTIKTOK


