

Lead From the Heart
Mark C. Crowley
Transformational Leadership For The 21st Century
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Oct 25, 2019 • 1h 4min
Kim Scott: Leading With Radical Candor
We musn’t fool ourselves into believing that the majority of the world’s workplace managers have bought into the idea that caring deeply about people is essential to leadership success.
Metrics on job satisfaction, employee well-being and, of course, engagement continue to reflect an attitude about leadership that’s anything but caring. Truth be told, many of us still believe caring is equivalent to soft management. Deep down, we remain convinced that our leadership power is compromised whenever employees feel they have a personal connection with their boss. So, we steer clear of it.
For anyone who privately holds these feelings – or needs more proof that caring deeply for your people won’t massively backfire – this podcast episode is for you.
At some of the top technology firms throughout Silicon Valley, Kim Scott repeatedly proved that relating personally to employees establishes the trust and respect that’s needed for leaders to not just set higher standards of performance, but to consistently meet them. Kim worked as an executive coach at both Twitter and Dropbox and was a training executive at both Google and Apple. She developed the “Managing At Apple” class that became the foundation for her best-selling book, Radical Candor.
There’s a false dichotomy in the belief that managers have a choice between being a pushover softy, or a fear-inspiring jerk. The best managers know not to trip over these binary choices – they intentionally build great relationships while concurrently driving for results.
As we discuss with Kim, Radical Candor is about caring personally while also challenging directly. It’s about soliciting criticism to improve one’s own leadership effectiveness and it’s also about providing guidance that helps other people grow. Ultimately, It focuses on praise but doesn’t shy away from criticism. The goal of managing this way is to help leaders love their work and the people they work with. Oh, and let’s not forget achieving great things in the process.
Listen in to learn the leadership practices many of the worlds’ top companies now embrace. In our language, it’s a masterful balance between mind and heart.
As of February, 2023, this is the third most downloaded episode of the podcast series.
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Oct 11, 2019 • 59min
Rich Karlgaard: Forbes Magazine Publisher Says “Hail To The Late Bloomer,” Which Is Most Of Us
We live in a society today that’s obsessed with early achievement, whether it’s getting perfect SAT scores, gaining acceptance into an Ivy League school or landing an amazing job at Google or Facebook – or better yet – creating a start-up with the potential to be the next Twitter or Instagram. We see software coders become millionaires or billionaires before age thirty and think we’re failing if we’re not one of them.
But in his new highly researched book, Late Bloomers: The Power of Patience in a World Obsessed with Early Achievement, Forbes Magazine publisher, Rich Karlgaard says we’re worshiping at the wrong alter. The premise that early blooming is necessary for lifelong success is simply and massively flawed.
The truth is most of us aren’t prodigies who explode out of the gates in life. Instead, we discover our passions and talents over time – and so we’re unwise to benchmark our career success to that of rare early bloomers.
Karlgaard was himself a late achiever. Self-described as having been “lucky” to attend Stanford University, he held low-paying jobs for several years after graduation before discovering his passion for writing & journalism. He was 44-years-old before becoming Forbes’ publisher.
The good news for all of us is that there’s a scientific explanation for why so many of us bloom later in life. The executive function of our brains doesn’t mature until age twenty-five. And we actually experience multiple periods of growth in our lives – into our 40’s, 50’s and 60’s – when we fully cultivate traits like curiosity, insight, compassion and wisdom.
There’s tremendous evidence that shows parents today are pressuring their kids into high achievement out of fear they’ll otherwise be left behind in life. And we’re also led to believe that as our workers age, their abilities wane. But as you’ll hear Karlgaard explain in this fascinating podcast, our focus on early success is both harmful and misguided. Human potential is far greater than we ever imagined – and it’s often maximized far later than we may ever believed possible.
The truth is we’re all works in progress, and we all continue to expand as we age. And for all the leaders about to listen in, this new mindset means everyone on your team has a far greater upside for future success than you might ever have imagined.
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Sep 27, 2019 • 55min
Marc Brackett: Yale’s Chief Emotion Scientist Unlocks Your Leadership Potential
Many of us believe that our emotions are a distraction to success in life – and that they upend our ability to make sound decisions. When it comes to leading and managing people, we carry over these same beliefs; we’re convinced making any kind of emotional connection with our employees will only hijack our effectiveness and undermine our team’s performance.
But according to Marc Brackett, founder of Yale University’s Center for Emotional Intelligence, and author of the new book, “Permission To Feel,” this understanding is entirely flawed. Despite what most of us were taught, emotions play an enormous – and positive role – in helping us make important choices, build good relationships & motivate the performance of others.
Up until the 1980’s, most psychologists believed that emotions were only extraneous noise whose static interfered with human effectiveness. But recent science, including the work Brackett has done himself, proves most human behavior is motivated by feelings and emotions whether we’re aware of it or not. In his words, “emotions give people purpose, priority, and focus to our thinking. They tell us what to do with knowledge that our senses deliver. They motivate us to act.”
Tied to the understanding that feelings and emotions drive human behavior (both ours and of the people we manage), Brackett believes all of us (leaders especially) are wise to become “emotion scientists.” Across over 5,000 US schools so far, for example, he’s taught educators how to recognize their emotions, identify their cause, name them, express them to others – and regulate them. And students at these schools are being taught the exact same skills.
And while Brackett is deeply invested in making today’s children highly emotionally intelligent, he believes every workplace manager would be wise to cultivate the same expertise: the ability to understand and manage one’s own emotions, while being able to discern what people around them are feeling as well.
“Do you know the one thing that keeps me up at night,” Brackett asks. “How my employees feel. That should haunt the sleep of every CEO, supervisor, manager and boss in the world. It’s the prime determinant of virtually everything that will happen in an organization.”
This, of course, is not common understanding in business even though it’s a cornerstone idea of the “Lead From The Heart” leadership philosophy. Marc Brackett joins us for a great reason: his work provides profound confirmation that the heart is more often the driver of employee engagement than the mind.
As of February, 2023, this is the fifth most downloaded episode of the podcast series.
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Sep 13, 2019 • 48min
Herminia Ibarra: How A New Mindset And A Massive Culture Change Made Microsoft Number One Again
It wasn’t all that long ago when tech giants like AOL, Yahoo and Blackberry seemed immortal. Today, of course, we remember them only as fallen giants – a fate Microsoft appeared to be headed toward less than a decade ago.
That Microsoft was able to fully revive itself when other first-generation technology innovators couldn’t begs the big leadership questions: “What did they do differently – what can we learn from their successful reinvention?”
It turns out Microsoft made many brilliant and extremely courageous moves. In just five years, the company transformed itself from has-been status into one of the most valuable companies in the world.
How they accomplished this is the focus of a new case study from London Business School professor, Herminia Ibarra, and her colleague Adam Jones. And Herminia joins us on the podcast to discuss her remarkable conclusions.
A large part of the credit for restoring Microsoft’s luster and value is owed to the selection of Satya Nadella as the company’s CEO. Nadella replaced his long-time predecessor, Steve Balmer, and boldly moved away from company’s legacy product set – a decision that required tens of thousands of employees to fundamentally change how they did their jobs.
In a nutshell, Nadella’s big shift was to fully reinvent his company’s culture – an inherently hard thing to do when you’ve got well over 100,000 employees working all over the world. And he was also willing to take many strategic risks.
As we discuss with Herminia, Microsoft is proof-positive that very large organizations can indeed reinvent themselves – but to do so, they need leaders who are willing to dismantle outdated and entrenched cultures while also embracing leadership practices that are far more supportive to human well-being and thriving.
Herminia Ibarra is the Charles Handy Professor of Organizational Behavior at the London Business School. She previously served on the faculties at INSEAD and at the Harvard Business School. An authority on leadership and career development, Thinker 50 ranks Ibarra among the top management thinkers in the world.
She is the author of best-selling books including “Act Like A Leader, Think Like A Leader” and “Working Identity: Unconventional Strategies For Reinventing Your Career.” She writes regularly for the Harvard Business Review as well as business publications like the Financial Times, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.
A native of Cuba, Ibarra received her M.A. and Ph.D. from Yale University where she was a National Science Fellow. She joins us from London, England.
As of February, 2023, this is the second most downloaded episode of the podcast series.
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Aug 30, 2019 • 59min
Stephen M.R. Covey: Leadership & The “Speed Of Trust”
It’s an irrefutable truth that trust is on a serious decline.
And all the key pillars of society are affected. The RAND Corporation recently reported that trust in government, the media – even in our businesses and workplaces – “has reached a lower absolute level than ever before.” And they warned that such a lack of trust inherently undermines the way we operate in the world.
Deep down we all know that trust is the glue of life. It’s the most essential ingredient in effective communication. And it’s the foundational principle that sustains all relationships.
And we also know that no one can be an effective leader without trust. As leadership legend Warren Bettis put it, “Leadership without mutual trust is a contradiction in terms.”
If there’s any good news coming out regarding trust, it’s Pew Research’s finding that 9-in-10 people believe the problem is fixable. Said another way, it’s clear most of us really want to see trust restored.
To that end, podcast guest, Stephen M. R. Covey, is one of the world’s experts on the topic of trust. A Harvard MBA, he’s the author of The Speed of Trust – a New York Times bestseller that has sold over 2 million copies. And in this discussion, he passionately shares the most effective ways leaders can both establish & sustain trusting relationships, especially with their teams & colleagues.
Covey had an especially interesting upbringing – his father was the author of “The 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People,” one of the Top 50 best-selling books of all-time. And the conversation begins with Stephen candidly explaining what it took for him to emerge from his father’s shadow, and to find his own place and identity in the world.
As Stephen explains, that journey profoundly influenced his great interest in trust, & to the discovery that trust actually yields a huge upside in business. In his words, “when trust is low in any relationship, it places a hidden “tax” on every transaction. Every communication, every interaction, every strategy, every decision is taxed, bringing speed down & sending costs up. Conversely, when people operate with high trust, they’re rewarded with a “dividend.” And that dividend acts as performance multiplier which accelerates the speed of communications, interactions, & decisions – and consistently yields far greater success.
Recent Gallup research shows that employee engagement is at least twelve times greater when people feel they work for a boss they trust. Listen in as Stephen rather inspiringly explains how that kind of trust gets built.
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Jun 28, 2019 • 59min
Jonathan Rosenberg: Why Bill Campbell Was The Greatest Executive Coach The World’s Ever Known
Bill Campbell is a Silicon Valley legend.
Following a career leading sales & marketing at Apple – & as CEO of Intuit – he spent nearly two decades coaching a “Who’s Who” list of world-changing executives. The list included Apple founder, Steve Jobs, Google founders, Sergei Brin and Larry Page. Facebook executive Sheryl Sandberg, former Twitter CEO, Dick Costolo, former Google Chairman Eric Schmidt – even former United States Vice President Al Gore.
In his new book, “Trillion Dollar Coach: The Leadership Playbook Of Silicon Valley’s Bill Campbell, long-time Google SVP – & co-author – Jonathan Rosenberg, says Campbell instinctively knew how to elevate the performance of people (including already highly successful people) not to mention the organizations they led.
In this highly informative discussion with Jonathan, we learn that Bill Campbell was neither a data-junky nor a technology wiz. What he brought to an overtly brain-driven work culture was “heart.” He understood people & how to make them feel valued. He taught them how to build & sustain trust, how to get star employees to embrace a “team first” mindset – & how to effectively coach others.
After Bill Campbell passed away in 2016, Google distilled his coaching principles, & made them an essential part of the organizations’ leadership development curriculum. Google now wants to leverage Campbell’s brilliance by teaching its managers to become great coaches to their own employees.
As you’ll soon hear, the practices, philosophy & spirit that made Bill Campbell an extraordinary coach in Silicon Valley are fully relevant to all organizations where human beings work. In other words, his coaching brilliance can become your coaching brilliance.
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Jun 14, 2019 • 56min
Esther Wojcicki: How To Raise Successful People
Esther Wojcicki knows what it takes to raise successful children.
Her daughter, Susan, is the CEO of YouTube. Janet is professor of Pediatrics at the UC San Francisco Medical School (and A Fulbright scholar). And Anne is co-founder & CEO of DNA testing company 23andMe.
If any of us were to guess how Esther influenced all three of her daughters to become so high-achieving, the logical leap would be to assume she had to have been the ultimate “tiger mom:” perfectionistic, unrelenting and intensely focused on having her kids win at all costs.
But, of course, Esther wouldn’t be a guest on this podcast were any of those assumptions to be true.
What is true is that Esther trusted her own uncommon instincts on what lessons would produce successful adults; and she intentionally imbued her children with a deep appreciation for five key values:
Trust,” “Respect,” “Independence,” “Collaboration” and “Kindness.”
Based upon “soft” values like these, Esther might rightfully be regarded as more of a “panda mom” in her approach to child-rearing. Virtues like aren’t widely believed to be the ones that lead to success moreover super-stardom. But it wasn’t just her three daughters who soared under Esther’s curriculum. For 36 years, she influenced countless students to excel in their lives as a journalism teacher at Palo Alto high school – where she recently was named California’s “Teacher of the Year.”
The big question we have for Esther on this podcast is “Could these very same values have a similar impact when it comes to managing people in the workplace?” “Is it possible that these same five values hold their charge into adult-life too – and that leaders who adopt them will experience great performance from their employees in return?”
Tapping into everything she wrote in her new best-selling book,“How To Raise Successful People: Simple Lessons For Radical Results,” Esther brilliantly shares a philosophy that transcends teaching. It’s a mindset that has profound implications for management, and one that intentionally emphasizes heart.
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May 31, 2019 • 1h 1min
Daniel Cable: How To Ensure Your Employees Come “Alive At Work”
When researchers tell us employee engagement is especially low, they’re almost always referring to American businesses. But as distressing as engagement is in the United States, the truth is it’s far worse in Europe and the UK – a fact this podcast is dedicated to exploring.
Just a few days before this interview with Dan Cable, professor of Organizational Behavior at the London Business School, the London Times reported statistics that might be laughable were they not true:
Research shows 1-in-2 Britains dread getting out of bed on work-day mornings, and 1-in-4 say they never have a single happy moment while on the job. Making matters worse, the study asserts that workers are starving for appreciation and recognition – an indication that workplace managers aren’t even getting the basics right.
A consistent theme of the Lead From The Heart podcast is that findings like these shouldn’t come as a surprise. We continue to manage human beings in ways that effectively undermine their optimal performance – and it’s because we’re still employing outdated leadership practices passed on to us from generations long-ago.
A while back, I asked Wharton Professor and best-selling author Adam Grant to recommend people he believed would be great guests on this podcast; and Dan Cable was first on his list. Dan (as the author of the new book, “Alive At Work”) very much believes there’s a biological reason so many of us are discontented at work. And much of this podcast is devoted to exploring the many ways managers can re-activate their employee’s “seeking system,” the part of the mind that holds such great sway over human behavior.
Dan holds an undergraduate degree from Penn State University along with a masters and Ph.D from Cornell University. With optics into the US and the UK – not to mention having done considerable work with many global companies, he’s in a great position to help us understand why so many people everywhere are miserable in their jobs – and how managers must help them return to being “alive at work.”
This is one of the most dynamic and informative podcast conversations yet!
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May 17, 2019 • 55min
Jim Harter: Gallup’s Chief Scientist Discusses His #1 Bestseller, “It’s The Manager”
Pick up any business magazine today, and it won’t take you long to find an article that features the phrase, “according to Gallup research.”
And whether that article is about workplace management, the future of work or how to most effectively lead a team of millennials, the studies to which the author will be referring are almost always the work Dr. Jim Harter.
For over 30 years, he’s led Gallup’s management research which includes over 1,000 workplace effectiveness studies – not to mention their world famous and ongoing global Well Being and Employee Engagement studies.
Gallup research, of course, represents the gold-standard of business insight – and so it’s perhaps no surprise that Jim Harter is the first person we’ve ever invited back on the podcast for a second time. And we’ve timed his encore appearance to coincide with the launch of his new book, “It’s The Manager,” co-written with Gallup CEO, Jim Clifton – which became an immediate Amazon #1 bestseller when it was released last week.
“It’s The Manager” is packed with 52 discoveries from Gallup’s largest study ever on the future of work – the most important of which is that a whopping “70% of the variance in team engagement is determined solely by the manager.”
And because we already know that employee engagement is absurdly low across the world, the idea that managers have the greatest impact on it inherently tells us we’re either choosing the wrong people for leadership roles – or that most managers don’t consistently employ the practices now known to drive great performance. As you might have guessed, in “It’s The Manager,” Harter tells us that both are actually true.
Harter does few interviews, and in our discussion he energetically explains the key findings from his compelling new research – knowledge that will surely propel you and your organization to great new heights.
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May 3, 2019 • 55min
Gerald Kane: How To Prepare For The Digital Disruption Headed Your Way
Over a span of only a couple of decades, we’ve witnessed entire industries get wiped out by digital disruption – advances in technology that have decimated traditional business models while ushering in new & previously unimaginable ways of delivering the same service. Very often, the innovators had never been previously seen as being either a threat or a competitor – until it was far too late.
Harmed in the process have been book stores, music stores, video rental businesses, taxi cab owners – even hotels. Gone are companies like Kodak, Borders, Blockbuster – & major newspapers across the world.
In light of this, is it likely that digital disruption will affect your industry and career? Research shows that nearly 9-in-10 of us believe it’s a certainty.
But the same detailed study made a truly staggering discovery: only 4-in-10 of us believe our companies are doing enough to prepare.
That leads us to asking: “How do we prepare?” and, “What must our leadership mindset be in this era of rapid change to not just endure, but also thrive?”
Working with colleagues from Deloitte & MIT’s Sloan Management Review, Boston College technology professor Gerald Kane spent the past four years surveying 16,000 people about their experience with digital disruption & how well they believe their organizations are responding. And to learn how cutting-edge firms like Google, SalesForce, WalMart and Facebook are working to disrupt themselves, he interviewed many of their top though leaders and innovators.
What he and his team learned through this research is the focus of this podcast – insight every one of us will need in order to successfully maneuver in our careers and in leading our organizations.
One huge take-away from Jerry’s deep-dive is that leaders don’t need to understand the inner workings of artificial intelligence, blockchain & virtual reality to succeed in this new business environment. Instead, what they need to adopt are the qualities of being change oriented, adaptable, open-minded, & willing to experiment & continually learn.
As Jerry writes in his new book, The Technology Fallacy, the response to digital disruption doesn’t call for leaders to focus exclusively on technology. Instead, it requires us to devote ourselves to preparing our people, our cultures & even our organizational structures to respond to the exciting and challenging future ahead.
The good news is Jerry has the roadmap, & brilliantly shares it with you here!
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