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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
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Jul 31, 2020 • 1h 4min
Tech antitrust hearing: the important moments and what comes next
Nilay, Makena, Adi, and Casey discuss the important moments from Congress' antitrust hearing with Apple’s Tim Cook, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, and Google’s Sundar Pichai.Stories discussed this week:
Antivirus: A weekly digest of the latest COVID-19 research
Kodak is branching out into pharmaceuticals with US investment
Twitter forced Donald Trump Jr. to delete tweet spreading COVID-19 misinformation
Moms in Tech Facebook group splintering over allegations of racism
Google will keep employees working remotely until July 2021
NASA’s life-hunting Mars rover is officially on its way to the Red Planet
Tech antitrust hearing: all the news, updates, and documents from Congress’ big moment
Everything you need to know from the tech antitrust hearing
What Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Apple have in common
Antitrust panel says the messages show Zuckerberg trying to buy out his competition
Jeff Bezos can’t promise Amazon employees don’t access independent seller data
Google’s business model ‘is the problem,’ David Cicilline says
The iconic Flip Video almost became Google’s first camera, emails show
Amazon bought Ring for market position, not technology, emails suggest
Read Steve Jobs’ emails about why you can’t buy digital books in Amazon’s apps
Facebook usage and revenue continue to grow as the pandemic rages on
Google parent company Alphabet sees its first revenue decline in history
Apple reports strong Mac and iPad sales in record-breaking Q3 earnings
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Jul 28, 2020 • 44min
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
Verge editor-in-chief talks with Wired senior editor Andy Greenberg, author of Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers.Greenberg's book is all about a group of hackers inside the Russian government called Sandworm, who were responsible for damaging cyber warfare attacks in various countries over the past few years.Andy and Nilay discuss the origins of Sandworm, the intricacies of their attacks, and how they escalated what we think of as "cyber war." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jul 24, 2020 • 1h 20min
Big tech antittrust hearing preview and the Xbox Games Showcase breakdown
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn talk with Casey Newton and Makena Kelly about what to expect at the upcoming big tech antitrust hearings featuring Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg, and Sundar Pichai. Megan Farokhmanesh and Andrew Webster return to discuss the games announced at the Xbox Games Showcase this week.Stories from this week:
New COVID testing strategy could speed up backlogged labs
‘COVID parties’ are a pandemic urban legend that won’t go away
The tech antitrust hearing is shaping up to be one for the ages
Antitrust investigations aren’t the biggest threat to Facebook’s future
The big winner in Slack’s Microsoft fight could be Google
Xbox Games Showcase: all the news from Microsoft’s July 2020 event
Sony’s first vlogging camera almost nails it
Latest iOS 14 beta offers more evidence of a 5.4-inch iPhone
Alexa will soon be able to launch Android and iOS apps using voice commands
Samsung promises new mobile and TV products at virtual September event
Blurry Samsung Galaxy Fold 2 leak hints at camera upgrades and gold model
Samsung’s Galaxy Note 20 Ultra may try to be the Xbox Phone
This is what Samsung’s bean-shaped Galaxy Buds Live will look like in your ears
The brain behind the Google Pixel camera is building a universal camera app for Adobe
Windows 10X might not arrive until 2021
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Jul 21, 2020 • 47min
Election cybersecurity: How ready are we for November 3rd?
Cybersecurity journalist Kim Zetter talks with The Verge's Nilay Patel and Russell Brandom about the state of election security in the US — what methods are being proposed to stop potential interference in the voting process, the problems with mail-in voting during a pandemic, and how voting machines are not always the best solution for a presidential election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jul 17, 2020 • 1h 10min
Twitter gets hacked / NBC's streaming service Peacock debuts / TikTok in the US is threatened
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Russell Brandom, and Julia Alexander discuss an unprecedented Twitter hack this week, the release of NBCUniversal's new streaming service Peacock, and the potential restrictions on TikTok in the US.Stories discussed this week:
White House reportedly orders hospitals to bypass CDC during COVID-19 data collection
CDC employees say the agency has a culture of ‘racial aggression’
Etsy sellers are offering sheer mesh face masks that provide ‘very little protection’
Seventeen states sue Trump administration over new student visa guidelines
Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Elon Musk, Apple, and others hacked in unprecedented Twitter attack
Twitter shut off the ability for many people to tweet after massive hack
Twitter reveals that its own employee tools contributed to unprecedented hack
Lawmakers demand more details on Twitter’s massive hack
The massive Twitter hack could be a global security crisis
Twitter says passwords were spared in yesterday’s attack, but it’s still working to restore locked accounts
The FBI opens investigation into Twitter attack over national security concerns
White House says restrictions on TikTok could come in ‘weeks, not months’
TikTok’s biggest problem is outside its control
Peacock’s interface aims to recreate the feeling of live TV, but it comes up short
Why Peacock and HBO Max aren’t on the biggest streaming platforms
How to stream Peacock
Netflix names content chief Ted Sarandos as co-CEO
Netflix adds another whopping 10 million subscribers, but warns growth may slow
Microsoft discontinues Xbox One X and Xbox One S digital edition ahead of Series X launch
Xbox Series X can play all Xbox One games, unless they use Kinect
Microsoft to launch xCloud streaming free with Xbox Game Pass Ultimate in September
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Jul 15, 2020 • 37min
Will virtual dates stick around after the pandemic?
The Verge's Why’d You Push That Button? is back for a special episode all about virtual dating in 2020. The pandemic has forced us all to stay at home when we can, which means if you want to go on a date, it may have to be done online.Ashley Carman and Kaitlyn Tiffany return to talk to online daters and app makers about how they are adapting to virtual-only dating, and what features and behaviors will stick around after social distancing and the pandemic end. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jul 14, 2020 • 56min
How Color of Change helped lead the Facebook boycott
Nilay Patel talks to Rashad Robinson, president of Color of Change.Color of Change, an online racial justice organization, is one of the groups leading the ad boycott against Facebook and other social media companies in response to hate speech appearing on the platforms.In the interview, Robinson talks about how the boycott campaign came together; his history pushing Facebook on issues of hate speech and civil rights; and meeting with Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg, and fellow leaders of the boycott to discuss the Facebook civil rights audit and how the company can improve the platform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jul 10, 2020 • 1h 16min
iOS14 public beta is released, Google’s Pixel 3A is discontinued, and Samsung's event is coming soon
Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Dan Seifert discuss Apple's iOS14 public beta, the future of Google's phones, and what to expect at Samsung's next hardware event.Stories discussed this week:
This isn’t a COVID-19 wave — it’s a tsunami
Tracing the link between your phone and the next pandemic
Doctors are better at treating COVID-19 patients now than they were in March
After the pandemic, doctors want their new robot helpers to stay
Facebook and Instagram will remind people to wear face masks
White YouTube creators struggle to address past use of racist characters
Everything that the big social networks banned this week, ranked
Coca-Cola, Microsoft, Starbucks, Target, Unilever, Verizon: all the companies pulling ads from Facebook
Facebook auditors call out Mark Zuckerberg for ‘vexing and heartbreaking decisions’
iOS 14’s public beta is rolling out today
iOS and iPadOS 14 public beta preview: something for everybody
Reddit says it’s fixing code in its iOS app that copied clipboard contents
LinkedIn says it will stop repeatedly copying iOS clipboard
Apple promises to support Thunderbolt on its new ARM Macs
Intel’s Thunderbolt 4 standard looks to raise the bar for USB-C devices
Google’s Pixel 3A is discontinued, but these retailers are still selling it
Samsung reportedly won’t include chargers with some phones starting next year
Samsung needs a splashy product for its splashy product launch
Mysterious new Samsung wearable revealed in FCC filings
Logitech is already giving up on its Alexa-powered Harmony remote control
Google’s upcoming Nest speaker revealed in regulatory filing
BMW is going all-in on in-car microtransactions
A weakened version of the EARN IT Act advances out of committee
Fading Light: the story of Magic Leap’s lost mixed reality magnum opus
I built my own camera with a Raspberry Pi 4
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Jul 7, 2020 • 1h 2min
Bug bounties: the good and the bad of computer security
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to founder and CEO of Luta Security Katie Moussouris.Moussouris has a long history in computer security, working at Microsoft and the Department of Defense creating their first bug bounty programs to incentivize catching and reporting security bugs and vulnerabilities in software systems.Nilay and Katie discuss the good and bad of bug bounties, encryption dilemmas with consumer devices, voting security in elections, and overall how we keep our software and networks secure. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 30, 2020 • 37min
Introducing Land of the Giants: The Netflix Effect
This week we’re sharing an episode of Land of the Giants, a podcast from our friends at Recode and the Vox Media Podcast Network that examines the most powerful tech companies of our time.The second season is called The Netflix Effect, and it’s hosted by Recode editors Rani Molla and Peter Kafka.The Netflix Effect explores how a company that began as a small DVD-by-mail service ultimately upended Hollywood and completely changed the way we watch TV.It’s a fascinating look at what really goes on behind the scenes at Netflix, one of the few companies that’s actually growing during the pandemic, and how they’re continuing to transform entertainment for you and me. New episodes are released every Tuesday morning. listen and subscribe to Land of the Giants: The Netflix Effect wherever you get The Vergecast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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